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    Mental Health Amongst The Homeless

    Poor bastards

    Interview with one young guy sleeping rough under a road bridge in London on the news

    82 percent of homeless have serious mental health problems

    These people get unwell , go into hospital , get treated , get told they will have support workers and a care plan , then get released onto the streets or end up in temporary unsuitable accommodation

    Poor bastards

    Happy Christmas 🤶

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    Re: Mental Health Amongst The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Poor bastards

    Interview with one young guy sleeping rough under a road bridge in London on the news

    82 percent of homeless have serious mental health problems

    These people get unwell , go into hospital , get treated , get told they will have support workers and a care plan , then get released onto the streets or end up in temporary unsuitable accommodation

    Poor bastards

    Happy Christmas 🤶
    Mental health is bad enough when you've got a roof over your head. Can't imagine how bad it gets with all the extra issues homelessness brings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Mental health is bad enough when you've got a roof over your head. Can't imagine how bad it gets with all the extra issues homelessness brings.
    Yes it must be horrific for the poor buggers

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Mental health is bad enough when you've got a roof over your head. Can't imagine how bad it gets with all the extra issues homelessness brings.
    Well said mate. For a lot of people Christmas isn't a great time either. It's always presented as this joyous family occasion but it's really hard for many.

  5. #5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
    Well said mate. For a lot of people Christmas isn't a great time either. It's always presented as this joyous family occasion but it's really hard for many.

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    Chicken and the egg though. A lot of these people have mental issues due to their drug problems.

    The aggresive begging going on in Merthyr this last 12-18 months is not pretty and they are not homeless either, they are being housed in several hotels and B&Bs around the town.

    I no longer give them any spare change, id rather give to a foodbank. Help people who are struggling whilst still trying to give life a go.

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    Re: Mental Health Amongst The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Chicken and the egg though. A lot of these people have mental issues due to their drug problems.

    The aggresive begging going on in Merthyr this last 12-18 months is not pretty and they are not homeless either, they are being housed in several hotels and B&Bs around the town.

    I no longer give them any spare change, id rather give to a foodbank. Help people who are struggling whilst still trying to give life a go.
    Spent the weekend in Manchester.

    Not been there for years, last time I was up there they had a huge spice problem and I was told by locals to stop (drunkenly) giving change to so many of them, one bloke actually came out of a pub and followed our group up the road to tell me as he'd spotted me pissed up giving change to so many people

    This weekend I bought 2 people bags of food in Tesco express, plenty of drinks etc. The one fella just wanted sweets and chocolates.. wasn't as bad around deansgate as I found it the 2 previous times I visited.

    I get the chicken and the egg comment,but lots of them turn to drugs after being homeless.

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    Re: Mental Health Amongst The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Chicken and the egg though. A lot of these people have mental issues due to their drug problems.

    The aggresive begging going on in Merthyr this last 12-18 months is not pretty and they are not homeless either, they are being housed in several hotels and B&Bs around the town.

    I no longer give them any spare change, id rather give to a foodbank. Help people who are struggling whilst still trying to give life a go.
    Under the law they are homeless they are just not in permanent housing

    Youngsters who develop mental health problems through drug use usually do so because they have existing problems , which leads to drug abuse , which makes things worse

    The people who are homeless on the street face incredible obstacles . Those that visit food backs are no more or less deserving , it's just a different kind of need .

    If you don't wish to give to the homeless for whatever reason that's entirely up to you but plenty of people do .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
    Well said mate. For a lot of people Christmas isn't a great time either. It's always presented as this joyous family occasion but it's really hard for many.
    Yesterday I was trying to get out of Bridgend whilst hundreds of people were lined up at the tills or in cars doing their Xmas shopping , it's absolutely crazy the money people spend whilst so much misery is going on I have never understood it

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Yesterday I was trying to get out of Bridgend whilst hundreds of people were lined up at the tills or in cars doing their Xmas shopping , it's absolutely crazy the money people spend whilst so much misery is going on I have never understood it
    Give over. If people who work hard for their money want to treat themselves or their loved ones they shouldnt feel guilty because of something that is out of their control.

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    Re: Mental Health Amongst The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Give over. If people who work hard for their money want to treat themselves or their loved ones they shouldnt feel guilty because of something that is out of their control.
    Well people are entitled to do with their money what they want but with regard to having no control over something I would suggest that's its fairly easy not to spend 1000 quid on Xmas presents and give some of it to the various charities helping those well off .

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    Re: Mental Health Amongst The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Well people are entitled to do with their money what they want but with regard to having no control over something I would suggest that's its fairly easy not to spend 1000 quid on Xmas presents and give some of it to the various charities helping those well off .
    But why should I? The government gets enough of my taxes, then theres council tax.etc and I already said I will give what I can. If I want to spend a grand or 2 on xmas on me and my family thats my perogative. I work hard all year around to be able to give my kids and family nice Xmas / holiday break.

    Whatever next? Dont spend £4/5k on my summer holiday once a year which both my wife and I work bloody hard for because some people are less fortunate?

    Youre a bloody commie.

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    Re: Mental Health Amongst The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    I dont wish to give to the homeless anymore when I know that money is just going to drugs. I used to think "Ah well at least its numbing the pain for a bit" but the bunch of so-called "homeless" that are hanging around Tesco, Merthyr at the moment are a very undesireable bunch, some who ive known for 30+ years since they were kids/teenagers and were always wrong-uns or bullys, so, no , I wont be giving to the likes of them anymore.

    When I go food shopping tonight ill probably do a bag for the foodbank. At least you know the people receiving a foodbank parcel will be grateful.
    When that might be your ex mates in Merthyr but most homeless people have a story to tell other than they were wrong uns or school bully's

    But well done on helping out the food bank , I knew there was a socialist in there somewhere

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    Re: Mental Health Amongst The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    But why should I? The government gets enough of my taxes, then theres council tax.etc and I already said I will give what I can. If I want to spend a grand or 2 on xmas on me and my family thats my perogative. I work hard all year around to be able to give my kids and family nice Xmas / holiday break.

    Whatever next? Dont spend £4/5k on my summer holiday once a year which both my wife and I work bloody hard for because some people are less fortunate?

    Youre a bloody commie.
    You sound like a tory

    I work hard , My wife words hard etc etc

    You have been sucked into the tory trap

    Divide and rule

    Do you think YOU work harder than nurses , cleaners , road sweepers ?

    You possibly think you do as you are more able to afford your lifestyle but this I work hard plea is plain daft

    Send me some boxer shorts and thermals and I will ensure they go to A good home this winter

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    Re: Mental Health Amongst The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    You sound like a tory

    I work hard , My wife words hard etc etc

    You have been sucked into the tory trap

    Divide and rule

    Do you think YOU work harder than nurses , cleaners , road sweepers ?

    You possibly think you do as you are more able to afford your lifestyle but this I work hard plea is plain daft

    Send me some boxer shorts and thermals and I will ensure they go to A good home this winter
    And you sound like a proper sponger whos never done a days work in his life. Just wants everything handed to him on a plate.

    No divide and rule here I support all the workers / stikers in trying to get a better pay deal for themselves.

    I do however take umbridge with a free loader like you telling where I should spend my hard earned earnings.

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    Re: Mental Health Amongst The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    And you sound like a proper sponger whos never done a days work in his life. Just wants everything handed to him on a plate.

    No divide and rule here I support all the workers / stikers in trying to get a better pay deal for themselves.

    I do however take umbridge with a free loader like you telling where I should spend my hard earned earnings.
    Free loader ?

    I am afraid you have the wrong chap

    You and dembewarrior been having lunch together ?

    He used to come out with that bollocks too

    Anyway get your money out you tight valleys twat

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    Re: Mental Health Amongst The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Free loader ?

    I am afraid you have the wrong chap

    You and dembewarrior been having lunch together ?

    He used to come out with that bollocks too

    Anyway get your money out you tight valleys twat
    Get a job and start earning and then maybe you can preach to others how they spend their earnings. Commie.

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    Re: Mental Health Amongst The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    And you sound like a proper sponger whos never done a days work in his life. Just wants everything handed to him on a plate.

    No divide and rule here I support all the workers / stikers in trying to get a better pay deal for themselves.

    I do however take umbridge with a free loader like you telling where I should spend my hard earned earnings.
    That's a good point, it's easy for someone not working or paying taxes to say give more, surely it would be better for them to get a job, work, and pay more so it's a better society rather than demanding more money from people who are paying their dues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    That's a good point, it's easy for someone not working or paying taxes to say give more, surely it would be better for them to get a job, work, and pay more so it's a better society rather than demanding more money from people who are paying their dues?
    We've been sold this lie for decades. There's so many flaws in this. Biggest one is......if it worked....it would be working and we'd already have a better society. Except we don't do we? We make other people rich by working for other people and are supposed to be grateful for the scraps whilst the suits sniff coke and drink Bollinger and tell us what to spend our money on. Stop peddling this Tory, failed, capitalist rubbish.

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    Re: Mental Health Amongst The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
    We've been sold this lie for decades. There's so many flaws in this. Biggest one is......if it worked....it would be working and we'd already have a better society. Except we don't do we? We make other people rich by working for other people and are supposed to be grateful for the scraps whilst the suits sniff coke and drink Bollinger and tell us what to spend our money on. Stop peddling this Tory, failed, capitalist rubbish.
    What would you suggest is the solution, or part of it? If people who run businesses aren't allowed to get rich because the money is taken to give to others then they won't bother to run a business so anyone they might employ wouldn't have a job. So you'd have more people to give money to and fewer people providing it.

    Carry this to its logical conclusion and you have everybody wanting money for nothing and no one working to provide it. The government gets money by taxing people. If you don't work you don't pay tax so the government doesn't have any money to give to you when you don't work.
    When you have the solution please let me know, I'll happily sign up for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    That's a good point, it's easy for someone not working or paying taxes to say give more, surely it would be better for them to get a job, work, and pay more so it's a better society rather than demanding more money from people who are paying their dues?
    F*ck me. It's Christmas. May I suggest some light Dickensian reading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    You sound like a tory

    I work hard , My wife words hard etc etc

    You have been sucked into the tory trap

    Divide and rule

    Do you think YOU work harder than nurses , cleaners , road sweepers ?

    You possibly think you do as you are more able to afford your lifestyle but this I work hard plea is plain daft

    r
    Im sure He feels he works harder that the druggies outside the supermarket

    Im amazed by this post, and im not sure if its serious or not, I might be getting wooshed

    Both myself and my wife work hard , in April this year she started up her own business, she is doing the same job but working for herself
    ( as does my oldest daughter who is at Uni, she has to buy her own alcohol and pay for her entertainment, to do that she has 3 part time jobs )

    Now we both pay out taxes ( which in turn pays for NHS, benefits and the help people get ) if no-one worked and paid taxes, where does all the money come from ? ? the money tree ? ? ?

    Are you serious that we shouldn't be able to go on holidays ? ?? or should feel guilty about it ? ? ?

    Im with JRH here, I give no money to the beggars on the street ( who normally spend it on drugs or drink ) if I see youngsters, I might buy a bar of chocolate for them, but thats it

    as a side note ( and ive mentioned it before ) I help out at a food bank, also at a charity that refurbs bikes and scooters and the money is used to helped the homeless equip flats they move into, buy a bed etc etc ) I only collect the bikes in my van and occasionally spot them on Facebook market place and go and pick them up, its nothing much, but its good for my Karma
    2 weeks ago, I dropped off 200 " selection boxes " ( only the £1.09 type, nothing too extravagant ) to the food bank I help out at, my idea was this week when someone collects a bag of food for 4, they get 4 selection boxes to have a little festive joy

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    Re: Mental Health Amongst The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Under the law they are homeless they are just not in permanent housing

    Youngsters who develop mental health problems through drug use usually do so because they have existing problems , which leads to drug abuse , which makes things worse

    The people who are homeless on the street face incredible obstacles . Those that visit food backs are no more or less deserving , it's just a different kind of need .

    If you don't wish to give to the homeless for whatever reason that's entirely up to you but plenty of people do .
    People living on the street are "homeless" - people living in hotels or B&Bs are of "no fixed abode".

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    B? His father is a millionaire and owns a hotel whilst hes badgering old biddies for a quid to help them with their shopping. You couldnt make it up.

    Hes actually one of the more pleasant ones though. I asked him did he want some food once, he said no he had eaten but could he borrow my phone. He then proceeded to call his dealer and place an order.
    He is alright. Dealt with him for years.

    Give your money to the food bank buddy.

  25. #25

    Re: Mental Health Amongst The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    I've said this before but the Senedd were very progressive in trying to address homelessness but the real issue is there isn't enough money to throw at it.

    I think in Wales though all are currently offered temporary accommodation and theoretically there is no need for anyone to be sleeping rough?

    Some chose to do so for a number of varying reasons.

    JR Hartley, the lad outside Lidl has a property. Near me as it goes.
    I can't speak about up Merthyr but in Cardiff the council are a joke and think that only an average of 7 people sleep rough on average

    They are lying or living in cloud cuckoo land

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