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Where do all the components of a smart phone come from?Originally Posted by Sunnysideup
No they are not , plan a journey from Cardiff to North Yorkshire where you need a Tesla supercharger and work out the detour , I’ve done it in a Tesla and it’s a nightmare.
Probably takes at least an hour longer and that’s with a clear run in summertime.
IF YOU READ MY POST PROPERLY, YOU SHOULD HAVE NOTICED THAT THIS BIT
EV chargers are located at motorway service stations so the extra fraction of a mile to detour when on the motorway is a non issue
WAS COPIED FROM A PREVIOUS POST, and I was saying it was BULLSHIT
Read what’s written, not what you think is written
Ok cheers , my mistake .
Are you honestly suggesting that fuel and car companies have not been ploughing, research and money in effort to clean up the use of fuel and cars , over the last 20 years ??"As the boss of one of the big fuel companies pointed out to mad Greta , he has done more in the last 20 years than anyone to redcue pollution"
Nice to see that satire is alive and well
The man in question was on about doing something tangible , Greta and the rich gang , who can afford to protest and not work don't solution tangible /deliverable results , they just protest , fuel and car companies have spent millions in research and change of technologies, so yes they have done more .. probably before she was born
The earth ,love to know the carbon footprint on that one , ring Greta's smartphone or she using pigeon theses days ?
I am absolutely suggesting that. Yes.
I'd hazard a guess that they spend infinitely more on lobbying than they do on anything green related.
It's not in their best interests to spend money on things that make their product obsolete.
If you'd like to prove me wrong by presenting "tangible" evidence of what this particular gentleman has done as boss of a fossil fuel company, then I'd love to see it.
After all, every day is a school day, isn't it?
Another question, sorry.
Why is it mainly middle aged men on the internet who have such a lasting fascination with Greta Thunberg?
It's a little bit creepy.
I'm 37 and I'm not bothered that she's protesting against this and that, but I think people have a point when they say she's being used etc.
There's a lot more of an element of personal comments aimed at her than claims of her being "used" by others - in my experience anyway.
Take 3 of Life on Mars' posts today as a tiny sample size of what is said on a grander scale.
I think it's weird.
It's definitely weird.
But I also agree she's a puppet.
They're taking advantage of her determination and desire to do good in the world.
Fair enough.
I'd shag her if she wanted. Nothing creepy.
Considering that you will not be able to buy any poisoning fume cars relatively soon - get with it Dino's - EV cars are great - Tesla's even better
Apart from the fact she still looks about 12.
I know her age. She looks young.
How very edgy of you
Just trying to offer my support to a young lady.How very edgy of you
Congratulations. Nobody is impressed by your edginess though.
Have you tried an Andrew Tate group?
Yes, they didn't want me.
From FT.
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Germany slams the brakes on the EU’s engine ban
The clean energy transition requires painful trade-offs.
An electric Porsche on the production line in Stuttgart, Germany. The country’s politicians must prioritise green technologies and find ways to address the resulting pressures © Krisztian Bocsi/Bloomberg
Germany slams the brakes on the EU’s engine ban on twitter (opens in a new window)
Germany slams the brakes on the EU’s engine ban on facebook (opens in a new window)
Germany slams the brakes on the EU’s engine ban on what
Talk about a legislative car crash. Ambitious plans by the EU to ban the sale of new vehicles powered by internal combustion engines by 2035 have been thwarted after last-minute opposition by Germany, the powerhouse of Europe’s car industry. What was meant to be a simple rubber-stamping by ministers this week of measures agreed last year by member states and recently approved by the European parliament has instead been indefinitely postponed. Not only does Germany set a terrible example to other countries tempted to hold legislation hostage to national interests, it also threatens the credibility of Berlin on the green transition, and that of the EU. The bloc’s proposed ban is a key component of its target to reach carbon neutrality by 2050. That journey has now hit a roadblock.
The dangers of a changing climate require a global shift from fossil fuels to cleaner alternatives at a scale and pace never attempted before. It is necessary to remove one of the biggest contributors to the climate emergency. There will be painful trade-offs, including job losses in polluting industries. In the auto industry’s case, the figures are stark: scrapping internal combustion engines in favour of electric vehicles could lead to 40 per cent fewer workers, reckons the chief executive of Ford, which has just cut 3,800 jobs across Europe. Given that Germany’s traditional car manufacturing industry makes up a fifth of the country’s industrial revenues, it is easy to understand why its politicians may be keen, particularly in a cost of living crisis, to preserve jobs in one of the country’s most totemic industries.
Without Berlin’s backing, the combustion-engine ban will not pass. Italy, home to the Ferrari, is supporting Germany. Poland has already stated its opposition to the law, while Bulgaria has said it will abstain. Germany is insisting that the European Commission includes an exemption for cars using so-called e-fuels, synthetic fuels made from hydrogen and carbon dioxide. E-fuels can be used by regular engines, which could mean a lifeline for traditional manufacturers. But e-fuels are far from being the panacea they are sometimes presented as: they are expensive, inefficient and emit as much nitrogen dioxide as burning fossil fuels would, even if they are technically climate neutral.
Neither are manufacturers particularly pushing e-fuels, beyond Bosch, the German engine supplier considered a laggard on battery manufacturing. Porsche wants to continue using engines for its 911 model, and Ferrari has said it is considering — although is yet to commit to — using e-fuels. But other German and Italian carmakers, including Volkswagen, Fiat and Mercedes-Benz, have bet on EVs for the future and have set dates for the phaseout of traditional engine manufacturing.
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Infighting among Germany’s ruling three-party coalition goes some way to explaining how the current impasse has been reached. From both a productivity and a climate perspective, the country’s politicians have to prioritise clean energy and find ways to address the resulting pressures. But the debacle over engines highlights that while the EU is among the world’s leaders in setting clean-energy targets, those now need to be matched with concrete action to meet them and to attenuate the collateral damage of doing so. Brussels must also consider how meaningful targets are if they are not enforced: France missed its renewable energy target from 2020, the only state to do so, and the commission is yet to decide whether and how to place sanctions on it. Transitioning to carbon neutrality by 2050 will be fiendishly difficult. But given that member states agreed to targets, it is now incumbent upon them to do all they can to meet them.
( And in my opinion the other thing bugging Europe /USA is Chinas ability in the Electric Battery world )
There are so many side issues and costs associated. I’ve been working with the German big 3, since 2018 on this project and the issues continue to mount. It’s not just batteries, it’s the vehicle management system, thermal management, weight management etc. This means fluid cooling systems, replacing aluminium with magnesium. More information systems means more heat, more power consumption, added software development. A single component we supply is 4x the cost for the EV version compared to the fossil fuel version. The next generation of vehicles from the big 3 covers the period 2025-2032, beyond that is a massive challenge.
in the lead-up to the Cop26 climate conference Volvo revealed alarming figures that greenhouse gas emissions in the production of an electric car were 70 per cent higher than in the manufacturing of a petrol one due to the resource-sapping lithium ion batteries.
The big 3, presented a white paper to the German government on this very subject in 2019, demonstrating the huge negatives of mining, use of rare materials, manufacturing emissions etc. As the report says,the focus is on what comes out of the exhaust, not the overall impact.
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