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Thread: New Manager Odds

  1. #26

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    As much as I'd rather us look longer term I wonder whether now is the time for that.

    With everything going on at the club what sort of quality of manager would we attract anyway.

    As a definite to the end of the season job I wouldn't be against Warnock necessarily. But then what?

    The last couple of years we have made new manager speculation so boring, I don't see this episode being interesting either.

  2. #27

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    Quote Originally Posted by Former Labour leader View Post
    Rumours are rife that Warnock has been approached.
    I hope Tan has scooped the Euromillions then, those agents don’t come cheap, unless he’s planning on investing in asbestos gloves.

  3. #28

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    I'd love Sean Dyche but that would mean putting their hands in their pockets.

  4. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianAlston View Post
    David Moyes could be available soon!

    Liam Manning would be a really good appointment, but a gamble given our league position. I'd vote for Dean Smith

    I would nearly rather be relegated than have to watch Warnock football again.
    Remind me what Liam Manning has achieved

  5. #30

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Gillis View Post
    I'd love Sean Dyche but that would mean putting their hands in their pockets.
    Sean Dyche will wait for the Everton job rather than come here.

  6. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Moral standing?

    Reappointing a manager whose record includes the following

    1. Dealing with his old friend Willie McKay to get the Emiliano Sala deal done at an overinflated transfer fee and overinflated salary .A deal with a man that NW knew was not a licenced intermediary and was in the early stages of a five year bankruptcy restriction which doesn`t end until August 2023.For whose financial benefit? In doing so, going behind the directors of the club and their opposition to the deal.

    2.Several deals with agencies employing one of his sons, many on questionable terms. This happened not only at Cardiff City but also at Sheffield United and Crystal Palace where the football authorities weren`t happy with deals involving a close family member.

    3. Persuading at least two CCFC players to switch agents to those employing his son, soon after which they received substantial pay increases.

    3. As part of the Sala deal giving playing contracts and playing time to two of McKay`s sons who had no apparent footballing quality. At one point the development team included the two of them plus another of Warnock`s sons (William). All three were denying places in the team to better players.

    4. Accusations from at least two now retired players of NW asking for money in exchange for picking them in his teams to get appearance money. Rumours that he was doing the same at CCFC and was trying to at Middlesbrough which is why he left there quite rapidly.

    Based on the above , yes moral bankruptcy.

  7. #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianAlston View Post
    David Moyes could be available soon!

    Liam Manning would be a really good appointment, but a gamble given our league position. I'd vote for Dean Smith

    I would nearly rather be relegated than have to watch Warnock football again.
    Manning is a major gamble, his MK Dons team were garbage this season. They've lost their stars and they're going down.

    Wilder was linked with Pompey, we are a more attractive option than them. His reputation has taken a significant hit after Boro but he's done extremely well everywhere else. He is a no brainer for me.

  8. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninian1962 View Post
    Reappointing a manager whose record includes the following

    1. Dealing with his old friend Willie McKay to get the Emiliano Sala deal done at an overinflated transfer fee and overinflated salary .A deal with a man that NW knew was not a licenced intermediary and was in the early stages of a five year bankruptcy restriction which doesn`t end until August 2023.For whose financial benefit? In doing so, going behind the directors of the club and their opposition to the deal.

    2.Several deals with agencies employing one of his sons, many on questionable terms. This happened not only at Cardiff City but also at Sheffield United and Crystal Palace where the football authorities weren`t happy with deals involving a close family member.

    3. Persuading at least two CCFC players to switch agents to those employing his son, soon after which they received substantial pay increases.

    3. As part of the Sala deal giving playing contracts and playing time to two of McKay`s sons who had no apparent footballing quality. At one point the development team included the two of them plus another of Warnock`s sons (William). All three were denying places in the team to better players.

    4. Accusations from at least two now retired players of NW asking for money in exchange for picking them in his teams to get appearance money. Rumours that he was doing the same at CCFC and was trying to at Middlesbrough which is why he left there quite rapidly.

    Based on the above , yes moral bankruptcy.
    so you're on the fence?

  9. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninian1962 View Post
    Reappointing a manager whose record includes the following

    1. Dealing with his old friend Willie McKay to get the Emiliano Sala deal done at an overinflated transfer fee and overinflated salary .A deal with a man that NW knew was not a licenced intermediary and was in the early stages of a five year bankruptcy restriction which doesn`t end until August 2023.For whose financial benefit? In doing so, going behind the directors of the club and their opposition to the deal.

    2.Several deals with agencies employing one of his sons, many on questionable terms. This happened not only at Cardiff City but also at Sheffield United and Crystal Palace where the football authorities weren`t happy with deals involving a close family member.

    3. Persuading at least two CCFC players to switch agents to those employing his son, soon after which they received substantial pay increases.

    3. As part of the Sala deal giving playing contracts and playing time to two of McKay`s sons who had no apparent footballing quality. At one point the development team included the two of them plus another of Warnock`s sons (William). All three were denying places in the team to better players.

    4. Accusations from at least two now retired players of NW asking for money in exchange for picking them in his teams to get appearance money. Rumours that he was doing the same at CCFC and was trying to at Middlesbrough which is why he left there quite rapidly.

    Based on the above , yes moral bankruptcy.
    We should keep as far away from him as possible

  10. #35

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    The 2 shortening in the market are Warnock now 6/4 , Whitehead 9/2.

  11. #36

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    The 2 shortening in the market are Warnock now 6/4 , Whitehead 9/2.
    Dean Smith, Chris Wilder and Co have sent their agents on holiday and gone ex directory in the phone book.

  12. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    Dean Smith, Chris Wilder and Co have sent their agents on holiday and gone ex directory in the phone book.
    🤣

  13. #38

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    Gareth Ainsworth not too far down the odds. I know people will scoff at the idea but he's spun gold out of nothing year after year at Wycombe. More to the point, if the incoming manager has no budget it's a situation he's more than used to.

  14. #39

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhyllisStant View Post
    Gareth Ainsworth not too far down the odds. I know people will scoff at the idea but he's spun gold out of nothing year after year at Wycombe. More to the point, if the incoming manager has no budget it's a situation he's more than used to.
    Why would you leave an owner that you clearly get on with to come here for an interfering, trigger happy, clueless board? They could potentially be in the same league as City very soon.

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    Re: New Manager Odds

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninian1962 View Post
    Reappointing a manager whose record includes the following

    1. Dealing with his old friend Willie McKay to get the Emiliano Sala deal done at an overinflated transfer fee and overinflated salary .A deal with a man that NW knew was not a licenced intermediary and was in the early stages of a five year bankruptcy restriction which doesn`t end until August 2023.For whose financial benefit? In doing so, going behind the directors of the club and their opposition to the deal.

    2.Several deals with agencies employing one of his sons, many on questionable terms. This happened not only at Cardiff City but also at Sheffield United and Crystal Palace where the football authorities weren`t happy with deals involving a close family member.

    3. Persuading at least two CCFC players to switch agents to those employing his son, soon after which they received substantial pay increases.

    3. As part of the Sala deal giving playing contracts and playing time to two of McKay`s sons who had no apparent footballing quality. At one point the development team included the two of them plus another of Warnock`s sons (William). All three were denying places in the team to better players.

    4. Accusations from at least two now retired players of NW asking for money in exchange for picking them in his teams to get appearance money. Rumours that he was doing the same at CCFC and was trying to at Middlesbrough which is why he left there quite rapidly.

    Based on the above , yes moral bankruptcy.
    Fair summary - except 3b weren’t the McKay twins signed long before the Sala deal emerged?

  16. #41

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    Id love to see the likes of Dean Smith given a chance but there’s no way sadly

  17. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Fair summary - except 3b weren’t the McKay twins signed long before the Sala deal emerged?
    According to the FIFA and CAS court decision papers negotiations re Sala started in November 2018. When were the McKay twins given contracts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninian1962 View Post
    According to the FIFA and CAS court decision papers negotiations re Sala started in November 2018. When were the McKay twins given contracts?
    January 2018.

  19. #44

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    Giovanni van Bronkhorst is looking for a job!

  20. #45

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    Quote Originally Posted by Des Parrot View Post
    Giovanni van Bronkhorst is looking for a job!
    So is Zinedine Zidane! :-/

  21. #46

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    Warnock 10/11 this morning. Whitehead drifted to 6/1. No move for anyone else.

    So we know Warnock isnt coming. The market suggests the board have nobody lined up.

    Is it a case of lets see how Whitehead does?

  22. #47

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Warnock 10/11 this morning. Whitehead drifted to 6/1. No move for anyone else.

    So we know Warnock isnt coming. The market suggests the board have nobody lined up.

    Is it a case of lets see how Whitehead does?
    Of course the board haven't got anyone lined up. The board haven't got a plan A, let alone anything else.

  23. #48

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Warnock 10/11 this morning. Whitehead drifted to 6/1. No move for anyone else.

    So we know Warnock isnt coming. The market suggests the board have nobody lined up.

    Is it a case of lets see how Whitehead does?
    League 1 here we come….maybe David Sullivan will save us from the inept ?

  24. #49

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Of course the board haven't got anyone lined up. The board haven't got a plan A, let alone anything else.
    You’d think Dalman might care somewhat, hasnt he loaned us £30/40 million apparently? Maybe he doesn’t want it back like Tan?

  25. #50

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    You’d think Dalman might care somewhat, hasnt he loaned us £30/40 million apparently? Maybe he doesn’t want it back like Tan?
    Isn't Dalman involved in the world of used cars? I wonder how many cars he's bought for big money and let them be given away free because they weren't good enough to sell?

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