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Thread: What is a well run club?

  1. #1

    What is a well run club?

    Easiest job in the world being a fan..............
    But what is a well run club?????

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    Re: What is a well run club?

    Quote Originally Posted by Its been emotional View Post
    Easiest job in the world being a fan..............
    But what is a well run club?????
    Has ambition but spends within its means
    Has a vision and a plan that is communicated throughout
    Has a clear style of play
    Values and communicates with fans
    Reaches out to the immediate and surrounding communities
    Has good structures for scouting and developing local young talent

  3. #3

    Re: What is a well run club?

    Full time CEO with a football background and a Director of Football.
    An owner that appoints the above carefully then leaves them to run the club.

  4. #4

    Re: What is a well run club?

    Quote Originally Posted by superfeathers View Post
    Has ambition but spends within its means
    Has a vision and a plan that is communicated throughout
    Has a clear style of play
    Values and communicates with fans
    Reaches out to the immediate and surrounding communities
    Has good structures for scouting and developing local young talent
    Is there many examples of these clubs.

  5. #5

    Re: What is a well run club?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
    Is there many examples of these clubs.
    Bayern Munich?

  6. #6

    Re: What is a well run club?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
    Is there many examples of these clubs.
    No there’s not many
    I’d say there are a lot of clubs that tick more of those boxes than us, though

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    Re: What is a well run club?

    Quote Originally Posted by superfeathers View Post
    No there’s not many
    I’d say there are a lot of clubs that tick more of those boxes than us, though
    I think having ambition and spending within their means is massively difficult. I think WBA did it for a while but then they were a yo-yo club, guess that could be classed as lacking ambition. It’s fine line.

  8. #8

    Re: What is a well run club?

    Apart from the money, money Clubs, must be to stay afloat in the current climate?

  9. #9

    Re: What is a well run club?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
    I think having ambition and spending within their means is massively difficult. I think WBA did it for a while but then they were a yo-yo club, guess that could be classed as lacking ambition. It’s fine line.
    I think If it’s communicated effectively you can have ambition and make small gradual steps in the right direction. Improvements in playing style, improvements in personnel. It takes time, and goes alongside many of the other points

  10. #10

    Re: What is a well run club?

    Quote Originally Posted by Its been emotional View Post
    Apart from the money, money Clubs, must be to stay afloat in the current climate?
    I disagree with this.
    Some clubs stay afloat because of someone who is potentially a lunatic paying money in every month. If the wind changes they’d be in trouble.
    That’s not a well run club

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    Re: What is a well run club?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
    Is there many examples of these clubs.
    I don’t like saying this, but Swansea are. They’re run properly (per the description) and spend within their means, even if their owners tend to be a bit stingy.

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    Re: What is a well run club?

    Most clubs have had periods when they have had massive debts

    The difference between us and them is that they can eventually service them or get sold and they are covered on bigger loans

    Arsenal were massively in debt a few years ago

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    Re: What is a well run club?

    As an Investor/Buyer where would your hard earned money end up going?
    If you are not a fan of the club

  14. #14

    Re: What is a well run club?

    Quote Originally Posted by Its been emotional View Post
    As an Investor/Buyer where would your hard earned money end up going?
    If you are not a fan of the club
    I would get the foundations right mehmet before spending any bigger money on transfers

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    Re: What is a well run club?

    Quote Originally Posted by superfeathers View Post
    I would get the foundations right mehmet before spending any bigger money on transfers
    But this would mean Mehmet getting rid of Mehmet.

  16. #16

    Re: What is a well run club?

    A Plan for the future
    Recruitment strategy
    Communication strategy
    Transparency
    Honesty
    The ability to appoint football people where needed
    The ability to admit when you are wrong
    Financial nous
    Engagement with the fans
    Consultation with the fans

    Everything our club hasn’t done

  17. #17

    Re: What is a well run club?

    Freiburg

  18. #18

    Re: What is a well run club?

    Brentford

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    Re: What is a well run club?

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Most clubs have had periods when they have had massive debts

    The difference between us and them is that they can eventually service them or get sold and they are covered on bigger loans

    Arsenal were massively in debt a few years ago
    Comparing a championship club in massive debt like Cardiff to an institution like Arsenal is utterly pointless.

    Top 6 clubs are selling for billions of pounds, their debt is like the average man having a little bit of debt on his credit card, or a little bit of finance left to pay on a car.

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    Re: What is a well run club?

    Everything our club has done outside of two promotions.

    Do the total opposite of that.

    Don't employ people that have no knowledge of the jobs they are hired to do, get somebody in that is experienced and has the required skills.

    Manager appointments. See above.

    Do not walk into a traditional club and alienate the fans by changng things they hold dear. The colours and badge are not to be changed.

    Do not continue with an academy that has produced nothing for years and trundle along and then throw any kid with a pulse into the first team.

    Do not go to the Premier League twice and build a squad to get promoted from the Championship while there. Try to stay there as you've done the hardest part.

  21. #21

    Re: What is a well run club?

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Brentford
    They are a good call, I’m not sure what sort of debt if any they have but that’s a club who have had an identity over several years.

  22. #22

    Re: What is a well run club?

    Quote Originally Posted by Its been emotional View Post
    Easiest job in the world being a fan..............
    But what is a well run club?????
    Brighton?

  23. #23

    Re: What is a well run club?

    Seems to me that the original question suggests that we are a well run club - we’re a text book example of a poorly run club. I think the whole Sala thing has been handled poorly, but the answers from Dalman to the questions on Sala were a reminder that City we’re incredibly unlucky to have been put in the situation in the first place. So, you’ve got to make allowances there, but, that apart, we’ve got so many things wrong in recent years.

  24. #24

    Re: What is a well run club?

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Comparing a championship club in massive debt like Cardiff to an institution like Arsenal is utterly pointless.

    Top 6 clubs are selling for billions of pounds, their debt is like the average man having a little bit of debt on his credit card, or a little bit of finance left to pay on a car.
    Read the second line

  25. #25

    Re: What is a well run club?

    I think a well-run Club should:

    1) Have a vision for the future: ie 2yr, 5yr & 10yr.
    2) That vision to be achieved by stated long, medium and short term plans.
    3) Has off-field staff (Owner, CEO, Chairman, Financial Director & Director of Football) who know and are tasked to deliver 1 & 2.
    4) Has a Manager/Coach and coaching staff tasked to deliver 1 & 2.
    5) Always have a list of prospective managers and players in each of these 3 categories (hopeful targets, reasonable targets and projects).
    6) Honours its employees ie a duty of care (whether school-boy or seasoned pro).
    7) Regular Shareholders' and fans' meetings.

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