While our eyes are on dingy crisis Rishi slips bill through the back door

[Sunnysideup]

Whilst all eyes are on today’s headline news story of how Rishi and Seulla plan on curbing the cross channel dingy migration crisis a bill was passed this evening via the back door!!
Sky news are reporting that the new bill will entitle single GAY men who are actively seeking a partner to claim this new government benefit via the DWP youGov website
If anyone on here qualifies it’s called Knobseeker’s Allowance
It come into force from the first of April 2023

[Wales-Bales]

Whilst all eyes are on today’s headline news story of how Rishi and Seulla plan on curbing the cross channel dingy migration crisis a bill was passed this evening via the back door!!
Sky news are reporting that the new bill will entitle single GAY men who are actively seeking a partner to claim this new government benefit via the DWP youGov website
If anyone on here qualifies it’s called Knobseeker’s Allowance
It come into force from the first of April 2023

Are you busy tonight?

[the other bob wilson]

Dunno about the opening post, but after “take back control” and “get Brexit done”,we have the latest three word slogan from the Tories. A search of “stop the boats” on Twitter will bring up no end of them parroting their latest slogan just in time for the May elections.

[Wales-Bales]

Dunno about the opening post, but after “take back control” and “get Brexit done”,we have the latest three word slogan from the Tories. A search of “stop the boats” on Twitter will bring up no end of them parroting their latest slogan just in time for the May elections.

Did you come across any mention of a UN army?

[the other bob wilson]

Maybe Gary Lineker has a point?

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...b0bbbc6b2f3f65

[JamesWales]

Maybe Gary Lineker has a point?

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...b0bbbc6b2f3f65

Nah, the difference is that in the 1930s, Jews were fleeing Nazis because ultimately the. National Socialist party ended up throwing Jewish children in gas chambers.

That isn't the case here. People are 'fleeing' to (not from) this country and as has been widely discussed, the system is being abused and it's costing us a lot to mitigate for.

Linekers comparison is preposterous and offensive to victims of fascism.

[the other bob wilson]

Nah, the difference is that in the 1930s, Jews were fleeing Nazis because ultimately the. National Socialist party ended up throwing Jewish children in gas chambers.

That isn't the case here. People are 'fleeing' to (not from) this country and as has been widely discussed, the system is being abused and it's costing us a lot to mitigate for.

Linekers comparison is preposterous and offensive to victims of fascism.

All I'm saying is that lectern with the national flag in shot for the cameras conjures up a certain image.

[JamesWales]

All I'm saying is that lectern with the national flag in shot for the cameras conjures up a certain image.

Only if all you think about is the Nazis! It's like saying anyone in a grey suit or with brylcremed jet black hair is reminiscent of Hitler.

I don't entirely think the flags in the background are necessary but it's a modern, news cycle thing where images are pumped around the world and every country does it for pretty much every press conference..

[Taunton Blue Genie]

As you all know, I'm not someone who wades into the inevitable Punch and Judy, left v right debates on here (and I'm more a person of the middle ground).
However, the cost of processing, housing and supporting what must be a huge number of the contingent of arrivals who are not true refugees must be astronomical and a huge financial and logistical burden on local and national authorities.
When I lived in London I had personal experience of what were economic migrants posing as refugees and who were used to playing the system after illegally entering the country - and they had a social network of friends and relatives doing the same thing.
I have every sympathy for genuine refugees (and I'm volunteer with a Ukrainian support group at present) but the problem is a serious one, in my opinion.
I was appalled to hear about the Rwandan scheme but last night heard that the Australians did something similar which has supposedly cured the problem, by and large.
There should be, of course, adequate facility outside the UK for refugees to apply for entry but the current situation is surely not tenable. What real options are there in the short term to solve what is a real problem?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Only if all you think about is the Nazis! It's like saying anyone in a grey suit or with brylcremed jet black hair is reminiscent of Hitler.

I don't entirely think the flags in the background are necessary but it's a modern, news cycle thing where images are pumped around the world and every country does it for pretty much every press conference..

I have to agree. I think the current government is despicable but the comparison is ludicrous.

[Wales-Bales]

All I'm saying is that lectern with the national flag in shot for the cameras conjures up a certain image.

What were they thinking Bob!

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[the other bob wilson]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...da-deportation

I still remember the immigration targets set by Cameron and May a decade and more ago. Those targets are never mentioned these days because they never came close to being met. I’m not denying that there is no simple solution to this, but we’ve got people in power saying we’ve got to do something about this, it’s horrible, but it’s got horrible entirely on their watch. It seems now that they’re reduced to a simplistic, slogan based approach using dubious imagery - the link shows that we’ve had plenty of talk about this matter in the past thirteen years, but little or no successful action.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Nah, the difference is that in the 1930s, Jews were fleeing Nazis because ultimately the. National Socialist party ended up throwing Jewish children in gas chambers.

That isn't the case here. People are 'fleeing' to (not from) this country and as has been widely discussed, the system is being abused and it's costing us a lot to mitigate for.

Linekers comparison is preposterous and offensive to victims of fascism.

Your use of the term national socialists is very weasel like , it really is

You know what you are doing and it's low life and pathetic

[HiVis]

Nah, the difference is that in the 1930s, Jews were fleeing Nazis because ultimately the. National Socialist party ended up throwing Jewish children in gas chambers.

That isn't the case here. People are 'fleeing' to (not from) this country and as has been widely discussed, the system is being abused and it's costing us a lot to mitigate for.

Linekers comparison is preposterous and offensive to victims of fascism.

bollocks

[Tito Fuente]

Nah, the difference is that in the 1930s, Jews were fleeing Nazis because ultimately the. National Socialist party ended up throwing Jewish children in gas chambers.

That isn't the case here. People are 'fleeing' to (not from) this country and as has been widely discussed, the system is being abused and it's costing us a lot to mitigate for.

Linekers comparison is preposterous and offensive to victims of fascism.

What has Lineker said?

[HiVis]

What has Lineker said?

Lineker said that the government are using language reminisce of 1930s Germany. He's not wrong.

[Wales-Bales]

What has Lineker said?

He said this background is very sinister looking.

[HiVis]

As you all know, I'm not someone who wades into the inevitable Punch and Judy, left v right debates on here (and I'm more a person of the middle ground).
However, the cost of processing, housing and supporting what must be a huge number of the contingent of arrivals who are not true refugees must be astronomical and a huge financial and logistical burden on local and national authorities.
When I lived in London I had personal experience of what were economic migrants posing as refugees and who were used to playing the system after illegally entering the country - and they had a social network of friends and relatives doing the same thing.
I have every sympathy for genuine refugees (and I'm volunteer with a Ukrainian support group at present) but the problem is a serious one, in my opinion.
I was appalled to hear about the Rwandan scheme but last night heard that the Australians did something similar which has supposedly cured the problem, by and large.
There should be, of course, adequate facility outside the UK for refugees to apply for entry but the current situation is surely not tenable. What real options are there in the short term to solve what is a real problem?

The cornerstone of our legal system is its better to let 10 guilty men go free than punish one innocent man. Lets just dispense with our hard fought civil liberties because those involved have brown skin.

The Tories are utterly despicable and anyone who advocates this policy is bereft of any kind of understanding regarding our unwritten constitution. The rights of the innocent must be protected.

[JamesWales]

The cornerstone of our legal system is its better to let 10 guilty men go free than punish one innocent man. Lets just dispense with our hard fought civil liberties because those involved have brown skin.

The Tories are utterly despicable and anyone who advocates this policy is bereft of any kind of understanding regarding our unwritten constitution. The rights of the innocent must be protected.

Despicable for trying to stop the abuse of our asylum system? Get real. The fact you play the race card weakens your argument massively, especially when the Prime Minister and Home Secretary have brown skin themselves.

Why don't you look less at skin colour and more at what is actually happening?

[Tito Fuente]

Lineker said that the government are using language reminisce of 1930s Germany. He's not wrong.

It wouldn't be the first time a Conservative government has used inflammatory language about immigration.

Didn't David Cameron once refer to a group of migrants as a "swarm"?

[Tito Fuente]

He said this background is very sinister looking.

Lineker spot on as always.

[Wales-Bales]

Lineker spot on as always.

Actually he ignored that one

[JamesWales]

It wouldn't be the first time a Conservative government has used inflammatory language about immigration.

Didn't David Cameron once refer to a group of migrants as a "swarm"?

Immigration and asylum aren't the same thing

[JamesWales]

Your use of the term national socialists is very weasel like , it really is

You know what you are doing and it's low life and pathetic

Seriously, in all this, what you object to is someone refering to the Nazis by their name!? 🤣

[Tito Fuente]

Immigration and asylum aren't the same thing

Thanks for that invaluable insight James but Suella Bravermen said that she was going to stop ""waves of illegal migrants breaching our borders" yesterday.