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Thread: Points deductions around the league

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    Points deductions around the league

    Reading facing a 6 point deduction, Wigan a 3 point deduction and Huddersfield are close to administration apparently which would be a 12 point deduction.

    A real race to the bottom.

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    Just need Blackpool to get one now and that'll be us safe

    Aren't Birmingham potentially facing one as well?

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    Re: Points deductions around the league

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Just need Blackpool to get one now and that'll be us safe

    Aren't Birmingham potentially facing one as well?
    Think you might be right.

    It must be our turn soon with the operating losses that were reported on recently.

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    Re: Points deductions around the league

    It would be a good season, if we didn't have to rely on other teams getting points deductions to stay up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armitage Shanks View Post
    It would be a good season, if we didn't have to rely on other teams getting points deductions to stay up.
    Didn't have to last season to be fair, and that wasn't a good season by anyone's standards.

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    Suppose take what we can will be our turn soon.

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    It will be some achievement seeing as how we cant buy any players.

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    Re: Points deductions around the league

    When does Readings actually happen?

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    Re: Points deductions around the league

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Didn't have to last season to be fair, and that wasn't a good season by anyone's standards.
    Yeah it really was glorious…..

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    Re: Points deductions around the league

    From their message board.

    “Tim Dellor said he spoke to someone "in the club" and was told the club will be getting a points deduction before the international break. There was an EFL meeting yesterday and another one on Monday, so it seems like it could even be next week.”

    Thread here https://hobnob.royals.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=190164

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    Re: Points deductions around the league

    Ten games to go and it seems another Championship season is going to descend into a farce. Great league, though.

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    The reason why so many clubs are in financial trouble in the championship is that they gamble on wages to try and get promotion

    If you have 25000 fans at home paying through the gate to help that process out that's great but when you don't.....

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    Re: Points deductions around the league

    Burnley have just been placed under a transfer embargo. Sheffield and Coventry were placed under embargoes in January and November too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canton Kev View Post
    Burnley have just been placed under a transfer embargo. Sheffield and Coventry were placed under embargoes in January and November too.
    Burnley changed auditors not that long ago, so their embargo is almost certainly a technical breach by having accounts submitted late.

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    Re: Points deductions around the league

    Quote Originally Posted by Canton Kev View Post
    Burnley have just been placed under a transfer embargo. Sheffield and Coventry were placed under embargoes in January and November too.
    That’s a harsh penalty outside of the transfer window.

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    Re: Points deductions around the league

    Financial Fair Play:

    In each of the last four seasons, at least one Championship club has been docked points. They are as follows:

    Birmingham City: finished 19th in the Championship in 2016/17. Finished 19th in the Championship in 2017/18. Finished 17th in the Championship in 2018/19, having been docked 9 points by the EFL under the FFP rules. They would have finished 14th without that points deduction.

    Wigan Athletic: finished 18th in the Championship in 2018/19. Relegated in 2019/20 after the season had finished, having been 13th in the table before a 12-points deduction was imposed for entering administration.

    Sheffield Wednesday: finished 12th in the Championship in 2018/19. Finished 16th in the Championship in 2019/20. Finished 24th in the Championship in 2020/21, having been docked 6 points under FFP rules (initially, it was 12 points, reduced on appeal). Without the 6-point deduction, Wednesday would have finished 21st and would have stayed up at the expense of Derby County.

    Derby County: finished 10th in 2019/20. Finished 21st in 2020/21. Finished 23rd and relegated in 2021/22, having had a total of 21 points deducted, without which they would have finished 18th.

    Reading: finished 14th in 2019/20. Finished 7th in 2020/21. Finished 21st in 2021/22 despite having 6 points deducted under FFP rules.

    Remind me, what is the point of this FFP crap? Is it to create the utopia of an imaginary level playing field for all clubs (as if such a thing ever existed)? Or is it to further punish clubs who have already been badly-run by shitty owners?

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    Re: Points deductions around the league

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Financial Fair Play:

    In each of the last four seasons, at least one Championship club has been docked points. They are as follows:

    Birmingham City: finished 19th in the Championship in 2016/17. Finished 19th in the Championship in 2017/18. Finished 17th in the Championship in 2018/19, having been docked 9 points by the EFL under the FFP rules. They would have finished 14th without that points deduction.

    Wigan Athletic: finished 18th in the Championship in 2018/19. Relegated in 2019/20 after the season had finished, having been 13th in the table before a 12-points deduction was imposed for entering administration.

    Sheffield Wednesday: finished 12th in the Championship in 2018/19. Finished 16th in the Championship in 2019/20. Finished 24th in the Championship in 2020/21, having been docked 6 points under FFP rules (initially, it was 12 points, reduced on appeal). Without the 6-point deduction, Wednesday would have finished 21st and would have stayed up at the expense of Derby County.

    Derby County: finished 10th in 2019/20. Finished 21st in 2020/21. Finished 23rd and relegated in 2021/22, having had a total of 21 points deducted, without which they would have finished 18th.

    Reading: finished 14th in 2019/20. Finished 7th in 2020/21. Finished 21st in 2021/22 despite having 6 points deducted under FFP rules.

    Remind me, what is the point of this FFP crap? Is it to create the utopia of an imaginary level playing field for all clubs (as if such a thing ever existed)? Or is it to further punish clubs who have already been badly-run by shitty owners?
    Thank feck we didn't have this around when Sam hammam was stuffing the fans and the club

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    Re: Points deductions around the league

    Quote Originally Posted by Canton Kev View Post
    Burnley have just been placed under a transfer embargo. Sheffield and Coventry were placed under embargoes in January and November too.
    Bear in mind City have also been placed under an embargo at least once (and maybe twice) in recent years due to accounts discrepancies, but those embargoes have been lifted before the transfer windows have opened.

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    Re: Points deductions around the league

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Thank feck we didn't have this around when Sam hammam was stuffing the fans and the club
    Or maybe long run wed be have been better off. We were paying stupid money for players.

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    Re: Points deductions around the league

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Financial Fair Play:

    In each of the last four seasons, at least one Championship club has been docked points. They are as follows:

    Birmingham City: finished 19th in the Championship in 2016/17. Finished 19th in the Championship in 2017/18. Finished 17th in the Championship in 2018/19, having been docked 9 points by the EFL under the FFP rules. They would have finished 14th without that points deduction.

    Wigan Athletic: finished 18th in the Championship in 2018/19. Relegated in 2019/20 after the season had finished, having been 13th in the table before a 12-points deduction was imposed for entering administration.

    Sheffield Wednesday: finished 12th in the Championship in 2018/19. Finished 16th in the Championship in 2019/20. Finished 24th in the Championship in 2020/21, having been docked 6 points under FFP rules (initially, it was 12 points, reduced on appeal). Without the 6-point deduction, Wednesday would have finished 21st and would have stayed up at the expense of Derby County.

    Derby County: finished 10th in 2019/20. Finished 21st in 2020/21. Finished 23rd and relegated in 2021/22, having had a total of 21 points deducted, without which they would have finished 18th.

    Reading: finished 14th in 2019/20. Finished 7th in 2020/21. Finished 21st in 2021/22 despite having 6 points deducted under FFP rules.

    Remind me, what is the point of this FFP crap? Is it to create the utopia of an imaginary level playing field for all clubs (as if such a thing ever existed)? Or is it to further punish clubs who have already been badly-run by shitty owners?
    You make a very valid point. It certainly doesn't seem to have the originally envisaged effects.

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    Re: Points deductions around the league

    Not a points deduction, but Huddersfield have Burnley on the transfer embargo list for being late submitting their accounts. Scuppers Warnock's plans for signing free agents.

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