FT: SHEFFIELD UTD 4 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

[Dorcus]

Ng was poor today, and not for the first time. He's one of the most overrated players we've had in a long time. That said, putting COD at centre back was bizarre. Romeo was on the bench as well. Just mental.

Absolutely spot on about NG

[Former Labour leader]

I'm a big fan of Ng but he was poor today.
Shame Ralls didn't score as we had Sheffield's defence rocking. Going forward right up to 3rd goal we looked dangerous.
Defence let us down again. Everyone culpable. Cant drop the lot.
Not sure what you do to change things unless you go back 433.

[City123]

Ng was poor today, and not for the first time. He's one of the most overrated players we've had in a long time. That said, putting COD at centre back was bizarre. Romeo was on the bench as well. Just mental.

Lowe was in so much space all the time, the pass out wide to him was on constantly, Ng seemed to position himself as if he was still playing as a wide cb

[Bobby Dandruff]

Lowe was in so much space all the time, the pass out wide to him was on constantly, Ng seemed to position himself as if he was still playing as a wide cb

It really was especially in the first half.

[bluesp]

A few thoughts about today’s game:
The commentator mentions McGuiness had been ill, may explain why he was below par.
NG is much more used to, and better at, centre half and looks less comfortable as a full back/ wing back. I can only think Romeo wasn’t back to full fitness as a reason why he didn’t start.
Simpson did ok, his injury was caused by a cheap shot which deserved a booking. We should have put O’Dowda at LWB and Romeo on the right second half if we were staying as a back 5.
Wickham aside from his shot that hit the bar looked off the pace when he came on, he was poor against Sunderland too.
Philogene is such a great player and our only creative forward player currently. He takes players on and causes panic amongst defenders, we need to get him involved more.
I think we’ll stay up, there seem to be injuries and suspensions a lot at the moment along with the likes of QPR in free fall. If we can avoid losing important players we should be ok.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

A few thoughts about today’s game:
The commentator mentions McGuiness had been ill, may explain why he was below par.
NG is much more used to, and better at, centre half and looks less comfortable as a full back/ wing back. I can only think Romeo wasn’t back to full fitness as a reason why he didn’t start.
Simpson did ok, his injury was caused by a cheap shot which deserved a booking. We should have put O’Dowda at LWB and Romeo on the right second half if we were staying as a back 5.
Wickham aside from his shot that hit the bar looked off the pace when he came on, he was poor against Sunderland too.
Philogene is such a great player and our only creative forward player currently. He takes players on and causes panic amongst defenders, we need to get him involved more.
I think we’ll stay up, there seem to be injuries and suspensions a lot at the moment along with the likes of QPR in free fall. If we can avoid losing important players we should be ok.

I think he said McGuinness was ill for the game against Sunderland.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

A few thoughts about today’s game:
The commentator mentions McGuiness had been ill, may explain why he was below par.
NG is much more used to, and better at, centre half and looks less comfortable as a full back/ wing back. I can only think Romeo wasn’t back to full fitness as a reason why he didn’t start.
Simpson did ok, his injury was caused by a cheap shot which deserved a booking. We should have put O’Dowda at LWB and Romeo on the right second half if we were staying as a back 5.
Wickham aside from his shot that hit the bar looked off the pace when he came on, he was poor against Sunderland too.
Philogene is such a great player and our only creative forward player currently. He takes players on and causes panic amongst defenders, we need to get him involved more.
I think we’ll stay up, there seem to be injuries and suspensions a lot at the moment along with the likes of QPR in free fall. If we can avoid losing important players we should be ok.

I think we need to acknowledge that Wickham wasn't pulling up trees at Forest Green in League 1. He's looked marginally better than some of our other attackers, which says more about them than it does about Wickham.

[2b2bdoo]

I think we need to acknowledge that Wickham wasn't pulling up trees at Forest Green in League 1. He's looked marginally better than some of our other attackers, which says more about them than it does about Wickham.

I think he’s been a great addition considering our situation, I’d be surprised if he isn’t given another year.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I think he’s been a great addition considering our situation, I’d be surprised if he isn’t given another year.

Which says so much about our situation. He wouldn't have got a look in a decade ago.

[logic]

Which says so much about our situation. He wouldn't have got a look in a decade ago.

In 2012/13, our list of attackers was Velikonja, Smith, Gestede, Mason, Helguson, Maynard, Campbell, Healey and Bellamy, in the Championship.

Wickham was 20, played 12 times for Sunderland in the Prem.

I'm sure you'll cite some statistic about the merits of not using Prem quality players in a Championship side, but to claim he'd not have had a look in is just silly.

[dembethewarrior]

A few thoughts about today’s game:
The commentator mentions McGuiness had been ill, may explain why he was below par.
NG is much more used to, and better at, centre half and looks less comfortable as a full back/ wing back. I can only think Romeo wasn’t back to full fitness as a reason why he didn’t start.
Simpson did ok, his injury was caused by a cheap shot which deserved a booking. We should have put O’Dowda at LWB and Romeo on the right second half if we were staying as a back 5.
Wickham aside from his shot that hit the bar looked off the pace when he came on, he was poor against Sunderland too.
Philogene is such a great player and our only creative forward player currently. He takes players on and causes panic amongst defenders, we need to get him involved more.
I think we’ll stay up, there seem to be injuries and suspensions a lot at the moment along with the likes of QPR in free fall. If we can avoid losing important players we should be ok.

There's being involved, and then there's ALWAYS taking the shot and not looking for a pass..

[bluesp]

There's being involved, and then there's ALWAYS taking the shot and not looking for a pass..

I’d say he’s got a decent scoring record for us

[bluesp]

I think he said McGuinness was ill for the game against Sunderland.

I didn’t catch that bit

[dembethewarrior]

I’d say he’s got a decent scoring record for us

I think he shoots when he can pass. I think the opposition know he's going to shoot as well, because as soon as he skips his man and makes space it's what he always does.

Im not knocking one of the bright lights in the team, but he would improve if he looked to pass now and again. Can't fault the confidence of the lad, it's great, but pass

[bluesp]

I think he shoots when he can pass. I think the opposition know he's going to shoot as well, because as soon as he skips his man and makes space it's what he always does.

Im not knocking one of the bright lights in the team, but he would improve if he looked to pass now and again. Can't fault the confidence of the lad, it's great, but pass

Fair point. Either way though we need to give him the ball more

[Organ Morgan.]

It's less than ideal that Stoke, who play on Tuesday, get an extra 24 hours to rest and recover for next Saturday's game.

That's far less egregious than the Huddersfield fixture. They will have a whopping 12 days to prepare for that fixture while City will have 62 hours from when the final whistle sounds at Rotherham.

[Michael Morris]

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