Reply With QuoteAbsolutely right. That's been the point I've been trying to make.Originally Posted by The Hooded Claw
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The Huddersfield owner almost put them into administration and a points deduction until a last minute deal
Absolutely right. That's been the point I've been trying to make.
Hey Sludge and Eric, you're 2 of the good guys on here and I hate seeing you 2 squabble.
Both of you have made good points. I was advocating Warnock before Lamouchi. Even though I do not like him on a personal basis i felt his track record was so good that his appointment would be a no brainer.
Warnock would have got us playing in the opposition half and cutting out silly defensive mistakes. How he does it, I do not know. Must be his strength of personality.
On the other hand we would not have wanted Warnock long term and perhaps Lamouchi will be a good bet going forward.
What I am certain of though, is that relegation will be a disaster and to be avoided at all costs.
If we avoid relegation then going with Lamouchi was the correct call. He is a more progressive manager and not only do we not have the players for Warnockball, it would be a step backwards in terms of style of play.
If we do get relegated then there will be lots of 'what if's! I think the injury to Collins was the big one. Not only was he one of our best players, but it meant we nullified one of best wingers by sticking O'Dowda at leftback. Due to the timing of the injury we also had to endure Nkonku for 6 months because of the lack of anyone better.
One of the best defensive records in the division? How do you work that out?
Great thread. Bloke who was never going to be appointed as City manager might have kept the team up had he been appointed seems to be the gist of it. The same could be said for literally anyone, except perhaps Mick McCarthy.
The simple fact is that Neil Warnock had the same chance of being reappointed as City manager as Malky Mackay - absolute zero. You'd have imagined that those who long for his tedious brand of hoofball would have appreciated that by now, but apparently not.
"I spoke to a Huddersfield fan who said Warnock has made them hard to beat..."
Brilliant.
One of the best is a bit of a stretch, but we've never been amongst the worst defences, if we hadn't have been so toothless we could have had a decent season. Even now we concede relatively few shots per game (only Burnley, Sheff Utd, Middlesborough, Swansea and Stoke face fewer shots) and only a handful of clubs allow less xG against than us (Burnley, WBA, Sheff Utd, Middlesborough, Luton and Millwall). Of course that doesn't take into account game state. At the other end of the pitch only Rotherham, Huddersfield and er Blackburn have generted less Xg - we actually make an above average number of shots, but we need far more shots before we score compared to anyone else.
When we drew 0-0 with Coventry in December, 8 sides had marginally better defensive records than us. 4 sides in the top half had conceded more. Before we lost 3-1 to Boro only 5 sides had conceded fewer than us.
Maybe I should have reworded it as us having one of the better defensive records in the division, rather than one of the best.
Since, and including that Boro game, only 6 sides have conceded more than us.
No squabbles at all between us. I'm just trying to work out what he's on about. He's long advocated that long ball football will get us out of trouble and I'm trying to, and failing, to get him to see that there are ways of being direct without just whacking the ball long and hoping. One day he'll get it.
Sadly I agree. I don’t think there is anyone at the club, including the manager, who can inject the will and urgency required to get out of this hole.
don't hold your breath
Strange as he refuses to pick him
I hope we win tonight and somehow get over that line but it's like a ghost ship at ccfc
The most effective style of play we have had in most fans recent memory was under warnock
I don't recall too much complaining about the ball being in the air when we got out of relegation trouble and then got promoted
Percentage football gets results and we should never have tried to go full circle
You can pine and whine like an abandoned old dog for pretty football but needs must and boy do we need some fight in the next 5 games
It wasn’t all long ball with Warnock, we played some lovely stuff early in the season whipping Leeds and Villa. Were we 3 nil up v Villa by half time ? Look at them now 5 years on……
Sludge, why don't you just ****off repeating yourself in your quest to be right all of the time. Get a gym membership or something.
A good win tonight against a playoff-chasing team, and a great comeback from a bad start, they showed plenty of fight and bottle, Kaba is looking like a great player for us
The defence has played well over the season, especially when you consider the keeper is poor and doesn't command his area, he did quite well tonight mind.
Why did you get a bloke from Leeds to sort your internet? Surely get someone from Cardiff, or wherever you live John? Poor c(nt must have driven miles.
It's about time
It's been a shocking season and if it wasn't for points deductions and the next 3 points we hope for we would be down
Thank freck for tonight some breathing space now
The modern world
I phone up plusnet and talk to someone in Leeds
Lamouchi win percentage at Cardiff - 36%
Warnock win percentage at Hudd - 33%
I see
Fabulous
Don't count your chickens
I phone up mumsnet and talk to your wife
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