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Thread: Official Ashes Thread

  1. #551

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    Over rates are getting ridiculously slow that there's an argument for scheduling 6 days anyway.
    It used to be that players were fined for slow over rates. Now I see no reason why play can't carry on a little longer anyway.

    Make each session 2.5 hours long instead of 2 hours (roughly).

  2. #552

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    I've long since given up on attending another test match live given how much they charge for a ticket these days. The tickets are sold on the basis that there will be ninety overs of cricket, it's fair enough if weather intervenes to cause a reduction in that figure, but, on dry days, they should stay out there until ninety overs have been bowled to give the punters all of the cricket that the sky high price they paid promised.

  3. #553

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    One of the contributing factors is the ridiculous amount of no balls. Maybe there should be say 5 runs for a no ball or a bowler removed after a certain amount bowled. Something needs to be done. Ian Botham is one who went his entire career without bowling a single no bowl in any form of cricket. I believe Lillee and Kapil Dev also didnt bowl one in international cricket.

  4. #554

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    I just think it's funny that as the weather cost England this time the test rule book should be re-written.

    Yeah but we are the much better side.

    We could have won the first two and won the series after three games if....

    If the Aussies didn't bowl so many no balls....

    If the weather...

    If my auntie etc...

  5. #555

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacAdder View Post
    I just think it's funny that as the weather cost England this time the test rule book should be re-written.

    Yeah but we are the much better side.

    We could have won the first two and won the series after three games if....

    If the Aussies didn't bowl so many no balls....

    If the weather...

    If my auntie etc...
    I dont think anyone is saying this as the Ashes are gone.

    Test Cricket is in trouble and this has been a superb series between 2 really good sides and we should have been going to the final test at 2-2.

    What we have got is a great game ruined by the weather and people looking for answers so there is a solution.

    Both sides bowled no balls nobody saying it was just Australia. Again its something that needs to stop as people are paying a lot of money and they are not getting the overs in.

    England could have won the 1st two tests. They didnt. Australia edged them. England edged the 3rd and England have dominated the 4th and just have a draw to show for it.

    Thats the reality but it would have given Test Cricket a huge boost if the Ashes were on the line at the oval.

  6. #556

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacAdder View Post
    I just think it's funny that as the weather cost England this time the test rule book should be re-written.

    Yeah but we are the much better side.

    We could have won the first two and won the series after three games if....

    If the Aussies didn't bowl so many no balls....

    If the weather...

    If my auntie etc...
    great init, how many times have england hid in the changing room or run off with the light

  7. #557

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    I dont think anyone is saying this as the Ashes are gone.

    Test Cricket is in trouble and this has been a superb series between 2 really good sides and we should have been going to the final test at 2-2.

    What we have got is a great game ruined by the weather and people looking for answers so there is a solution.

    Both sides bowled no balls nobody saying it was just Australia. Again its something that needs to stop as people are paying a lot of money and they are not getting the overs in.

    England could have won the 1st two tests. They didnt. Australia edged them. England edged the 3rd and England have dominated the 4th and just have a draw to show for it.

    Thats the reality but it would have given Test Cricket a huge boost if the Ashes were on the line at the oval.
    As I said

  8. #558

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    I think things like a back up day for every test match is unfeasible - yes for things like the World Final we had earlier in the season,but not for all test matches.

    On the other hand, I can’t see any problem in insisting that the full allocation of overs are bowled every day if the weather allows and cricket should move away from a situation where everyone goes home or back to hotels at 6.30 despite there being bright sunshine as has happened toooften in this series - things like that do the game no favours and makes it that much harder to retain any new fans attracted by the excitement of the Ashes battle.

    None of that can be construed as sour grapes because Australia have retained the Ashes,it’s about people getting the full days play that they paid for.

  9. #559

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    Perhaps too much emphasis is being made of "The Ashes"?

    Let's just call the series a draw if England win at the Oval and not mention the Ashes at all.

    Let's have a contingency day for bad weather.
    Lets play til 10pm.

    Might as well have rolling subs.

    Why not lets have yet another form of cricket, "the Six dayer"

    Could it be that there is too much tinkering with the game of cricket, like say hmmmm...i dunno....football?

  10. #560

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    Quote Originally Posted by poc View Post
    great init, how many times have england hid in the changing room or run off with the light
    I'd say many poc.

    Far too much rhetoric and propaganda on Sky.

    Even if they smash England at the Oval there will be loads of, ahem, spin put on it.

    I bet the Aussies are loving reading all the papers today.

  11. #561

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    The always cheated never defeated brigade have been out in full this series. Not just followers of the England football team

  12. #562

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    I dont think anyone is saying this as the Ashes are gone.

    Test Cricket is in trouble and this has been a superb series between 2 really good sides and we should have been going to the final test at 2-2.

    What we have got is a great game ruined by the weather and people looking for answers so there is a solution.

    Both sides bowled no balls nobody saying it was just Australia. Again its something that needs to stop as people are paying a lot of money and they are not getting the overs in.

    England could have won the 1st two tests. They didnt. Australia edged them. England edged the 3rd and England have dominated the 4th and just have a draw to show for it.

    Thats the reality but it would have given Test Cricket a huge boost if the Ashes were on the line at the oval.
    Great post mate. As a very, very casual viewer of cricket I’ve throughly enjoyed the series and found myself fully captivated. I was gutted the way the 4th test and ultimately the chance to win the Ashes finished.

    Long live Baz Ball

  13. #563

    Re: Official Ashes Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    I dont think anyone is saying this as the Ashes are gone.

    Test Cricket is in trouble and this has been a superb series between 2 really good sides and we should have been going to the final test at 2-2.

    What we have got is a great game ruined by the weather and people looking for answers so there is a solution.

    Both sides bowled no balls nobody saying it was just Australia. Again its something that needs to stop as people are paying a lot of money and they are not getting the overs in.

    England could have won the 1st two tests. They didnt. Australia edged them. England edged the 3rd and England have dominated the 4th and just have a draw to show for it.

    Thats the reality but it would have given Test Cricket a huge boost if the Ashes were on the line at the oval.
    Well said. Also, any rule changes will help Australia in the future. It will rain when they're going to win. It is nailed on.

  14. #564

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    Interesting article in the Telegraph

    Players like Josh Tongue, Zak Crawley and Moeen Ali are being picked despite their performances in county cricket — not because of them.

    Green-tinged county wickets, and the dearth of matches during the prime summer months, mean that there is seldom much need for high pace or spin bowling in the Championship; nagging right-arm seam bowling will generally suffice. Unsurprisingly, England perform strikingly better when conditions offer more lateral movement

  15. #565

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Interesting article in the Telegraph

    Players like Josh Tongue, Zak Crawley and Moeen Ali are being picked despite their performances in county cricket — not because of them.

    Green-tinged county wickets, and the dearth of matches during the prime summer months, mean that there is seldom much need for high pace or spin bowling in the Championship; nagging right-arm seam bowling will generally suffice. Unsurprisingly, England perform strikingly better when conditions offer more lateral movement
    probably correct not many (if any)of the test team turn out for there county team, often years ago selection seemed to be more with the home counties and bigger counties now it sems to be bens mates team,all this rubbish cricket like the hundred played in the middle of summer doesnt help either

  16. #566

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    Quote Originally Posted by poc View Post
    probably correct not many (if any)of the test team turn out for there county team, often years ago selection seemed to be more with the home counties and bigger counties now it sems to be bens mates team,all this rubbish cricket like the hundred played in the middle of summer doesnt help either
    I used to love it when a Glammy player got selected for England, not nowadays (not that anyone is remotely challenging mind you).

    Nothing changes, you mention "Ben's mates" the England setup has always been the same, very cliquey.

  17. #567

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    Final test starts this morning with another miserable forecast - first two days should be okay, then two days where there’s every chance of disruption and a potential wash out on the final day. We then have the complete comedown of the Hundred and the50 over competition for reserve teams before a few four day games in September - no test cricket after July is a shocker of a decision from an organisation that specialises in them.

  18. #568

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacAdder View Post
    I used to love it when a Glammy player got selected for England, not nowadays (not that anyone is remotely challenging mind you).

    Nothing changes, you mention "Ben's mates" the England setup has always been the same, very cliquey.
    I wouldn’t say that at all. Stone , Archer and Leach are injured otherwise Wood would have not played this series and you definitely wouldn’t have had a player from Worcestershire being selected. Tongue was very much unknown prior to the start of the summer.

    That said test captains are part of the selection panel.

  19. #569

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Final test starts this morning with another miserable forecast - first two days should be okay, then two days where there’s every chance of disruption and a potential wash out on the final day. We then have the complete comedown of the Hundred and the50 over competition for reserve teams before a few four day games in September - no test cricket after July is a shocker of a decision from an organisation that specialises in them.
    Totally agree.

  20. #570

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    Jimmy Anderson lucky to be selected for this. Hopefully he can come back to his best.

  21. #571

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    I wouldn’t say that at all. Stone , Archer and Leach are injured otherwise Wood would have not played this series and you definitely wouldn’t have had a player from Worcestershire being selected. Tongue was very much unknown prior to the start of the summer.

    That said test captains are part of the selection panel.
    You will always get exceptions to the rule, especially bowlers (Greg Thomas and Simon Jones spring to mind from Glamorgan).

    I'd liken English cricket to universities, topical at the moment with graduations.
    Go to the right one and you've get the better jobs.

  22. #572

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Jimmy Anderson lucky to be selected for this. Hopefully he can come back to his best.
    I think this was more of a romantic one.

  23. #573

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Final test starts this morning with another miserable forecast - first two days should be okay, then two days where there’s every chance of disruption and a potential wash out on the final day. We then have the complete comedown of the Hundred and the50 over competition for reserve teams before a few four day games in September - no test cricket after July is a shocker of a decision from an organisation that specialises in them.
    It all does seem a bit anticlimactic.
    There is an argument that having the tests early offers the best opportunity to see players at their peak, not knackered from busting a gut in minor forms (IMHO) of the game.

    Said it before, there are too many forms of the game these days, it's all about the dollar.

  24. #574

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    Anderson still doesn't go for many runs per over and England don't really have a spinner available to them who can seal up one end and maybe frustrate the Australians into taking risks up the other end - Leach might have been able to do it (I'm not convinced on that score mind), but, in his absence, Anderson is probably the best England have at doing that currently.

    Whether that is enough to merit Anderson staying in the team is definitely arguable as all of the evidence of the series so far is that his days as a regular wicket taker in test cricket are coming to an end - I would have picked Tongue in front of him at Old Trafford.

  25. #575

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    Gotta laugh at the interval coverage of the series so far.
    It was the same yesterday previewing this one.
    All the Headingly test!

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