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    Bob Wilson's Blog makes it to Wales Online

    Cardiff City fan view: The big question over Lamouchi amid bewildering selections and refusal to pick young guns

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...V9XeGYGVGN8sSg

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    Assuming that is done without Bobs consent, isn’t that clearly plagiarism and subject to legal advice?

    Or is journalism now just copying and pasting other people’s content verbatim and then asking readers to sign up so we can monetize their data and tell us what they think about it?

    edit - maybe I’ve jumped the gun there reading it again including the tag line, if so congrats on making the big time?

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    Re: Bob Wilson's Blog makes it to Wales Online

    Quote Originally Posted by LA Bluebird View Post
    Assuming that is done without Bobs consent, isn’t that clearly plagiarism and subject to legal advice?

    Or is journalism now just copying and pasting other people’s content verbatim and then asking readers to sign up so we can monetize their data and tell us what they think about it?

    edit - maybe I’ve jumped the gun there reading it again including the tag line, if so congrats on making the big time?
    Wales Online approached me on Tuesday asking if they could use the piece - I was happy to let them publish it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Wales Online approached me on Tuesday asking if they could use the piece - I was happy to let them publish it.
    Any chance you can sign a City shirt for me to add to my collection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Wales Online approached me on Tuesday asking if they could use the piece - I was happy to let them publish it.
    For a massive fee of course.

    That you immediately donated to a local charidy.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff View Post
    For a massive fee of course.

    That you immediately donated to a local charidy.....
    I took the massive fee for granted- that might have been a mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Wales Online approached me on Tuesday asking if they could use the piece - I was happy to let them publish it.....
    ...after spending six hours wondering whether it was yet another scam of the elderly

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    Not much to disagree with in that article although I question the references to the refusal to pick the young guns. As football is so results orientated and a manager's life is so tenuous especially at Cardiff City any manager in our position would pick his strongest team and not plan for the future. Lamouchi's job was to keep the club in the Championship and that must have been his sole priority. Of course he could have picked youngsters when we were safe but I'm doubtful whether a hammering at Burnley for example would have done them a lot of good. However, it was a thoughtful article and good on Wales Online for airing a real fans view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    Not much to disagree with in that article although I question the references to the refusal to pick the young guns. As football is so results orientated and a manager's life is so tenuous especially at Cardiff City any manager in our position would pick his strongest team and not plan for the future. Lamouchi's job was to keep the club in the Championship and that must have been his sole priority. Of course he could have picked youngsters when we were safe but I'm doubtful whether a hammering at Burnley for example would have done them a lot of good. However, it was a thoughtful article and good on Wales Online for airing a real fans view.
    Don't you think that the final game of the season with nothing riding on it would be the best time to give youngsters a go? If it had been a hammering, they wouldn't have got much flak for it if they were genuine untried youngsters. The problem I have with Monday is that we're not talking about untired youngsters here.

    Looking at their Wikipedia entries, Eli King has played twenty times in senior football now, Isaak Davies thirty eight, Joel Bagan thirty six if you include the two matches he played on loan for Notts County (could have sworn he played more than hat for them) and Rubin Colwill sixty with eight senior caps as well.

    So, we're talking about four players with a combined age of 83 (3x21 plus King who's 20) and a total of one hundred and sixty two appearances in senior football. When do they stop being youngsters who need to be protected and start becoming proper professional footballers? I'd argue that the answer to that question should be something like eighteen months ago in the case of the twenty one year olds and at the start of this season for King.

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    Jesus you've clearly upset someone (who shall remain anonymous) in the comments section 😆

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    Quote Originally Posted by fugsyphil View Post
    Jesus you've clearly upset someone (who shall remain anonymous) in the comments section ��
    'DM68'. Hmmmmmm. I wonder.

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    Re: Bob Wilson's Blog makes it to Wales Online

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Don't you think that the final game of the season with nothing riding on it would be the best time to give youngsters a go? If it had been a hammering, they wouldn't have got much flak for it if they were genuine untried youngsters. The problem I have with Monday is that we're not talking about untired youngsters here.

    Looking at their Wikipedia entries, Eli King has played twenty times in senior football now, Isaak Davies thirty eight, Joel Bagan thirty six if you include the two matches he played on loan for Notts County (could have sworn he played more than hat for them) and Rubin Colwill sixty with eight senior caps as well.

    So, we're talking about four players with a combined age of 83 (3x21 plus King who's 20) and a total of one hundred and sixty two appearances in senior football. When do they stop being youngsters who need to be protected and start becoming proper professional footballers? I'd argue that the answer to that question should be something like eighteen months ago in the case of the twenty one year olds and at the start of this season for King.
    Congratulations Bob!

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    Re: Bob Wilson's Blog makes it to Wales Online

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Don't you think that the final game of the season with nothing riding on it would be the best time to give youngsters a go? If it had been a hammering, they wouldn't have got much flak for it if they were genuine untried youngsters. The problem I have with Monday is that we're not talking about untired youngsters here.

    Looking at their Wikipedia entries, Eli King has played twenty times in senior football now, Isaak Davies thirty eight, Joel Bagan thirty six if you include the two matches he played on loan for Notts County (could have sworn he played more than hat for them) and Rubin Colwill sixty with eight senior caps as well.

    So, we're talking about four players with a combined age of 83 (3x21 plus King who's 20) and a total of one hundred and sixty two appearances in senior football. When do they stop being youngsters who need to be protected and start becoming proper professional footballers? I'd argue that the answer to that question should be something like eighteen months ago in the case of the twenty one year olds and at the start of this season for King.
    As someone once said, you can't win anything with youngsters

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    That TOBW will be ‘phone hacking next......it’s the obvious next step

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    That TOBW will be ‘phone hacking next......it’s the obvious next step

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    That TOBW will be ‘phone hacking next......it’s the obvious next step

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Don't you think that the final game of the season with nothing riding on it would be the best time to give youngsters a go? If it had been a hammering, they wouldn't have got much flak for it if they were genuine untried youngsters. The problem I have with Monday is that we're not talking about untired youngsters here.

    Looking at their Wikipedia entries, Eli King has played twenty times in senior football now, Isaak Davies thirty eight, Joel Bagan thirty six if you include the two matches he played on loan for Notts County (could have sworn he played more than hat for them) and Rubin Colwill sixty with eight senior caps as well.

    So, we're talking about four players with a combined age of 83 (3x21 plus King who's 20) and a total of one hundred and sixty two appearances in senior football. When do they stop being youngsters who need to be protected and start becoming proper professional footballers? I'd argue that the answer to that question should be something like eighteen months ago in the case of the twenty one year olds and at the start of this season for King.
    How long ago was it that you had a column in the Echo? What happened there, didn't you pull out because they starting editing it or am I imagining that?

    Bagan played four games for Notts County by the way. Two in the league then two play-off games. I thought it was more too but he was a bit unlucky. Made a good debut at Barrow in early March, missed the midweek game but then started every game for them after that, including the play-off final at Wembley in August. Still only got four games in, that's Covid for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loramski View Post
    How long ago was it that you had a column in the Echo? What happened there, didn't you pull out because they starting editing it or am I imagining that?

    Bagan played four games for Notts County by the way. Two in the league then two play-off games. I thought it was more too but he was a bit unlucky. Made a good debut at Barrow in early March, missed the midweek game but then started every game for them after that, including the play-off final at Wembley in August. Still only got four games in, that's Covid for you.
    I did a weekly column for the Echo for about a year around the time of our first season in the Premier League. There was some editing of what I wrote occasionally (there was in this week's piece as well), but that never bothered me too much really.

    Maybe those still at Wales Online will tell you different, but, from my perspective, I stopped doing the column because they wouldn't run something I'd written about he Academy team. I thought it would be a good idea to do one story a season about age group teams at City. I did one on what was then the under 23 team which was published with no problems, but they weren't happy with my story about the under 18s I did a couple of months later. The impression I got was that they thought no one would be interested in it - I disagreed (I reckoned that, on the contrary, a one off story would be of interest to City fans - they might have had a point if I planned to write something every month) and decided that it wasn't worth continuing with.

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    "This "blogger "has a reputation for being totally negative and never has anything good to say about the club" DM 68

    PMSL

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    "This "blogger "has a reputation for being totally negative and never has anything good to say about the club" DM 68

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    I replied to him on there, not sure I should have bothered really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Don't you think that the final game of the season with nothing riding on it would be the best time to give youngsters a go? If it had been a hammering, they wouldn't have got much flak for it if they were genuine untried youngsters. The problem I have with Monday is that we're not talking about untired youngsters here.

    Looking at their Wikipedia entries, Eli King has played twenty times in senior football now, Isaak Davies thirty eight, Joel Bagan thirty six if you include the two matches he played on loan for Notts County (could have sworn he played more than hat for them) and Rubin Colwill sixty with eight senior caps as well.

    So, we're talking about four players with a combined age of 83 (3x21 plus King who's 20) and a total of one hundred and sixty two appearances in senior football. When do they stop being youngsters who need to be protected and start becoming proper professional footballers? I'd argue that the answer to that question should be something like eighteen months ago in the case of the twenty one year olds and at the start of this season for King.
    You make some good points. However, I don't think a hammering would have done Lamouchi's hope for a new contract a lot of good. But it's a matter of opinion I suppose and that's the point of this forum isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I replied to him on there, not sure I should have bothered really.
    Reputation for being totally negative 😂😂😂

    Comedy gold, it’s got to be the best wind up account ever, or there really is a village missing their idiot

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    Well done sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    'DM68'. Hmmmmmm. I wonder.
    Do you think it might be our David Michael and he's misrepresenting his age?

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    Thats great news always said , he was a real decent football writer , far better than the sham that is the welsh media

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