Reply With Quotei,m done with them all but can see a hung parliament
until they bring in some of proportional representation i,m politically homeless
more concerned with Klaus and his gang these days
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At best I think the Tories will be ousted but Labour won't have enough to rule and will have to form a coalition with the liberals and the other parties
I wouldn't mind that at all . I will vote for whatever candidate will beat the conservatives .
It's incredible that after all these years of nonsense from them the opposition is not able to win a clear majority but I saw Question Time last night and whilst the tory panel member was utterly inept and there for a kicking , the Labour shadow leader of the House......a senior Labour big hitter ......was absolutely hopeless
The Labour party should be demolished and a left of centre or moderate opposition probably nearer liberal in nature than left wing should be established . In that way the opposition can be a group of people with anti tory values and be united instead of a split vote which keeps the conservatives in power
Labour are not taking about electoral pacts or minority government or coalition but they should be because that's going to be the reality
The worst case scenario of course would be a tory government , again
I find that unbelievable but I think the above together with the utter hopelessness of starmer may well let them in again
If that happens I will be done with all of them
i,m done with them all but can see a hung parliament
until they bring in some of proportional representation i,m politically homeless
more concerned with Klaus and his gang these days
A lot can happen between now and the election.
The public mood (from opinion polls and local elections) is more anti Tory than pro Labour.
Despite Starmer and the grotesque Tory-lite vision offered by Labour, I expect a small Labour majority, or at worst a Labour-led minority government (Lab-Lib confidence and supply deal).
I would love PROriginally Posted by MOZZER2
He's absolutely hopeless
The man is a top end QC
Imagine him being your brief ?
Apart from the last election which delivered a big tory majority on the back of 'getting Brexit done' , they've only had a majority once (in 2015). They've been in power effectively by the skin of their teeth with help from the Lib Dems first and then the DUP.
This time I think it will be Labour getting in with the help of others (prob the Lib Dems).
If Penny Mordant is the leader she will romp home .
Labour will alienate folk with any sniff of allegiances to Green , SNP or Liberals as that is woke remain haven , folk up North wont have it.
I can remember William Hague's Tories getting huge council gains only to be wacked by Labour , keep the champers on ice youse Socialist Tory lites
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Interestingly, Labour have been denying they would negotiate with the SNP and more coy when it comes to what would happen with the Lib Dem’s. I’d be surprised if it is true, but, apparently, Labour’s manifesto will not carry a promise to bring in PR, but, again, they’re being less forthright about what happens after that.
I don’t like making political predictions, but, after last week’s elections, a Conservative majority Government looks like a bit of a long shot.
https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html
Some of the predictions on there look very worrying for the tories, mind you their predictions for the local elections were for the tories to lose just over 300 seats, so that wasn't that accurate
Too early to tell in my opinion. I suspect though that the polls will narrow, the very difficult conditions of the last 3 years will very likely improve, allowing for some targeted tax cuts or extra spending etc. I suspect most statistics will improve from where we are now.
I don't think it will make much difference who is in to be honest, but I suspect a healthy Labour majority. Probably not quite 1997 levels but not far off.
they always say that the last 18 months before any election is much more important in the publics memory when it comes to an election, so the tories will be pulling some tax cuts out of their arses soon.
Yeah absolutely. I know some of you disagree, but the economic issues of the last 3 years really are external factors and they have impacted every govt, many of whom have been voted out across Europe and the world. So those things really should improve.
The other stuff; Johnson, parties, whiff of corruption etc..if Sunak can stamp it out, then that criticism will disapper Into the background too, at least for many.
I think Labour will comfortably win, but it's like saying who will win the 2024 cup final - Man City of Chelsea. No one would predict Chelsea if asked, but everyone knows by that point the situation could be different
Even the best PR companies out there couldn't save your image
The economic issues of the last 3 years may have been mostly external (Liz Truss's disastrous tenure shouldn't just be glossed over - that has had a real impact on people's finances to this day)
However, public services have been deteriorating and the economy has been underperforming for a lot longer than that
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I am afraid he was right
If we get a conservative government of any shape or form it will be time to turn off the lights
I think the biggest thing stopping a huge swing to labour is starmer and his team
Blair was a liar and a thief but when he first got hold of the party he had charisma and people in the middle voted for him , even after the calamity and deceit of Iraq
I think labour is done for if it fails to get a majority or enough to govern
In the long term I have had enough of it and only vote because its the only possible alternative to the blue nasties
I think a donkey with a red rosette would be better than starmer , raynor , thornberry, dodds and copper
Even the shadow chancellor annoys me
Lisa Nandy would make a good leader , anyone but Starmer
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Sir Bier would sell his granny ( sorry older relative personage ) for power he has already ditched half of his promises , is their any point in having an alleged manifesto for growth .
The only growth is in Angela's silent anger , and Sir Biers temper face when Dianne Abbott speaks out , both very quiet these days , have they been silenced along with Yvette Cooper , Rosie Duffield the Labour ladies doth protest too much .
Put a big wager on it then
Penny was just a fledgling then , how well she has flowered ?
Jesus what a mixed metaphor.
If there is life on Mars sadly there's no poetry there.
Sir KIER...wake up!
Other then the War monger was in power - the previous Lab Govt was in 1974-79. The Uk will vote for a change next time I think, but it depends on the SNP. They have 50 something MPs , if Labour can win back Scotland they'll have a chance.
I think Starma as PM will be as boring as Major - and as equally inept.
You're right Sludge - Labour should split - Corbyn / Livingston et al should have a party and those slightly left of centre should try and take ground from the lib dems. Sunak is trying to do the same - so hung parliament / minority Govt looking likely
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