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    The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Tan did not decide to get rid of Lamouchi because he had someone else lined up to come in. No great surprise there because we never do have any continuity, it's always, right let's sack the manager, we need a change........now what do we do?

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    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Tan did not decide to get rid of Lamouchi because he had someone else lined up to come in. No great surprise there because we never do have any continuity, it's always, right let's sack the manager, we need a change........now what do we do?
    Very difficult to appoint a manager at the back end of a season when clubs are fighting for titles and avoiding relegations.
    Once the dust settles, you can see who might be available and who may not.
    Lamouchi was never the man for me. I’m not defending the board here, but let’s see who they get in, and what the ambition is for next season, before we start crucifying them again.

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    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Very difficult to appoint a manager at the back end of a season when clubs are fighting for titles and avoiding relegations.
    Once the dust settles, you can see who might be available and who may not.
    Lamouchi was never the man for me. I’m not defending the board here, but let’s see who they get in, and what the ambition is for next season, before we start crucifying them again.
    Even if we do end up getting someone good in, I don't see how that alters what I said in the OP - it's over a week since Tan's meeting with Lamouchi, if we'd had someone lined up, they'd have been in place by now.

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    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Because things need to move so quickly in the close season, and because our owner has to 'fly in' from 5000 miles to handle negotiations, I would have thought, yes, the club would have had a couple of options lined up in the event of Lamouchi wanting away. We've got a bigger job to do player-wise this summer than most other Championship clubs.

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    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Even if we do end up getting someone good in, I don't see how that alters what I said in the OP - it's over a week since Tan's meeting with Lamouchi, if we'd had someone lined up, they'd have been in place by now.
    Tan did not turn Lamouchi down. In effect it was the other way round. Lamouchi said the player budget was not enough and we would end up in the same position as this season. Tan took umbrage at this and it was a very frosty meeting. The meeting should have been to seal the deal but it didn't work out that way. This is why nobody was lined up. The official statement was spin.

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    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garth Blue View Post
    Tan did not turn Lamouchi down. In effect it was the other way round. Lamouchi said the player budget was not enough and we would end up in the same position as this season. Tan took umbrage at this and it was a very frosty meeting. The meeting should have been to seal the deal but it didn't work out that way. This is why nobody was lined up. The official statement was spin.
    You literally just made all this up.

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    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    You literally just made all this up.
    No i did not. I posted the same on another message board before the news broke that Lamouchi would not be appointed.

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    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    You literally just made all this up.
    Probably, but I think he's right.

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    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garth Blue View Post
    Tan did not turn Lamouchi down. In effect it was the other way round. Lamouchi said the player budget was not enough and we would end up in the same position as this season. Tan took umbrage at this and it was a very frosty meeting. The meeting should have been to seal the deal but it didn't work out that way. This is why nobody was lined up. The official statement was spin.
    I suspected something like this had gone on. The spin after the meeting was laughable. Tan didn't want him anyway, yeah right

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    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garth Blue View Post
    Tan did not turn Lamouchi down. In effect it was the other way round. Lamouchi said the player budget was not enough and we would end up in the same position as this season. Tan took umbrage at this and it was a very frosty meeting. The meeting should have been to seal the deal but it didn't work out that way. This is why nobody was lined up. The official statement was spin.
    Wouldn’t be surprised if you’re right. After all, Lamouchi had three or four months of getting to know the sort of club City are before having to make a decision on a longer contract, but I would have expected there to be more out there backing you up by now.

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    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Very difficult to appoint a manager at the back end of a season when clubs are fighting for titles and avoiding relegations.
    Once the dust settles, you can see who might be available and who may not.
    Lamouchi was never the man for me. I’m not defending the board here, but let’s see who they get in, and what the ambition is for next season, before we start crucifying them again.
    ‘Fighting for titles’? I’m not quite sure who you think the club may be considering but I’d definitely recommend that you lower your expectations a bit.

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    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    We do TRY AND apply continuity and did with, Hudson , Morison and now potentially Bamba . Huge mistake with sacking Morison he was half decent got let down by lack not getting striker and telling players they underachieving.

    Lamouchi probably wanted too much ,and the 'I want to stay ' was the usually manager bullshit speak .

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    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    . Huge mistake with sacking Morison he was half decent got let down by lack not getting striker. .
    Hence the reason Morison HAD to go. It was almost as if Morison forgot that goals win games

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    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68 View Post
    Hence the reason Morison HAD to go. It was almost as if Morison forgot that goals win games
    Morison had a monster job on to completely transform the squad. He was sacked one game after signing a striker - but not for football reasons.

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    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garth Blue View Post
    Morison had a monster job on to completely transform the squad. He was sacked one game after signing a striker - but not for football reasons.
    Can you give us any clues?

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    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    Can you give us any clues?
    Bullying behaviour - allegedly

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    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    We do TRY AND apply continuity and did with, Hudson , Morison and now potentially Bamba . Huge mistake with sacking Morison he was half decent got let down by lack not getting striker and telling players they underachieving.

    Lamouchi probably wanted too much ,and the 'I want to stay ' was the usually manager bullshit speak .


    Half decent yet not in with a sniff of any other jobs. Applied for Oxford and rejected.

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    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Tan did not decide to get rid of Lamouchi because he had someone else lined up to come in. No great surprise there because we never do have any continuity, it's always, right let's sack the manager, we need a change........now what do we do?
    Especially as sabri contract was only ever until the end of the season. Its not like he was sacked or quit. His contract was done. This should have been sorted between the Huddersfield and Burnley games and sabri should have gone before the Burnley game if that's the way things were going.

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    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garth Blue View Post
    Tan did not turn Lamouchi down. In effect it was the other way round. Lamouchi said the player budget was not enough and we would end up in the same position as this season. Tan took umbrage at this and it was a very frosty meeting. The meeting should have been to seal the deal but it didn't work out that way. This is why nobody was lined up. The official statement was spin.
    Do we know this?

  20. #20

    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff View Post
    ‘Fighting for titles’? I’m not quite sure who you think the club may be considering but I’d definitely recommend that you lower your expectations a bit.
    Kevin Phillips is 16-1 and South Shields I believe were fighting for a title.🤣

    I doubt our board of clowns know who he is anyway.

  21. #21

    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garth Blue View Post
    Tan did not turn Lamouchi down. In effect it was the other way round. Lamouchi said the player budget was not enough and we would end up in the same position as this season. Tan took umbrage at this and it was a very frosty meeting. The meeting should have been to seal the deal but it didn't work out that way. This is why nobody was lined up. The official statement was spin.
    I think this is exactly what happened. I wasn't a fan of Lamouchi but with a reasonable budget who knows what he could achieve.

    The probability is that Tan's pie in the sky delusions and his unwillingness to spend money foundered on the rock of reality. No decent manager would risk their reputation with us as long as Tan is controlling things.

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    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garth Blue View Post
    Tan did not turn Lamouchi down. In effect it was the other way round. Lamouchi said the player budget was not enough and we would end up in the same position as this season. Tan took umbrage at this and it was a very frosty meeting. The meeting should have been to seal the deal but it didn't work out that way. This is why nobody was lined up. The official statement was spin.
    Wouldn't surprise me if they couldn't reach a deal because budgets were a major stumbling block.
    It'll be hard for any manager to agree a deal knowing there's an embargo, and knowing that the club don't seem willing to do what's required to get it lifted.

  23. #23

    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garth Blue View Post
    No i did not. I posted the same on another message board before the news broke that Lamouchi would not be appointed.
    Its a good guess and maybe true. But can you explain how you know this is a fact.

  24. #24

    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Its a good guess and maybe true. But can you explain how you know this is a fact.
    Nobody’s going to know the truth unless they were at the meeting or work within the boardroom.

  25. #25

    Re: The manager situation - one thing's become clear now.

    If as many of us think Lamouchi couldnt get the assurances and backing he wanted then why wouldn't he come out and say so?

    Maybe Tan just didnt want him. Of course that could be he was too expensive or/and he doesnt rate him.

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