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[JamesWales]

I don’t know about firebrands’ but thousands of trades unionists, socialists and communists were prevented from working at all - not just blocked for promotion. The Economic League ran an employment blacklist - as I know to my cost.

And ‘left’ and ‘right’ is absolutely relevant. Those who claim political views are irrelevant or that there is no left or right any more are the new foot soldiers of the alt right. They have their own devious and dishonest agenda. The political left are and always will be the enemies of wealth and privilege and exploitation. The right are the apologists of wealth and privilege. It is easy!

On your last couple of sentences..I think that used to be true. Not sure it is now.

On BBC Politics today, the panel all roundly condemned Coutts on TV except Angela Eagle MP, who seemed to make light of it.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I would absolutely oppose this happening to anyone based on this criteria. I am no fan of banks at all and will argue against things like a cashless society and excessive surveillance at every turn. Can you cite a recent example to back up your claim?

And even if you are right, and perhaps you are, you tolerating this only makes it more likely to happen to anyone in the future.

What claim ? That The Economic League is a right wing group with sinister actions ?

That's not a claim, that's a fact

I don't tolerate this sort of activity please don't insult my intelligence

I have said that twice now

This is still going on now and there are so many examples they have written plenty of books about it

What we do know is that it is OVERWHELMINGLY people left of the political spectrum and those involved in human rights , trade unions , the environment etc that have been targeted by the forces of money and control

I am not going to waste my time enlightening you about the activity of The Economic League

Thatcher was a big fan

It's certainly not funded by the TUC put it that way

[TheGoose]

Quite a funny read all this. Shines a light on the people who are so politically blinded that they can't even comment on a simple topic without filtering it through their political beliefs first.

[JamesWales]

What claim ? That The Economic League is a right wing group with sinister actions ?

That's not a claim, that's a fact

I don't tolerate this sort of activity please don't insult my intelligence

I have said that twice now

This is still going on now and there are so many examples they have written plenty of books about it

What we do know is that it is OVERWHELMINGLY people left of the political spectrum and those involved in human rights , trade unions , the environment etc that have been targeted by the forces of money and control

I am not going to waste my time enlightening you about the activity of The Economic League

Thatcher was a big fan

It's certainly not funded by the TUC put it that way

I take from that, that you can't name an example.

I also don't think it's true about history either btw. Perhaps more so in this country, esp when one thinks of union blacklisting and things, but not generally. Nonetheless, such actions were wrong then and they are wrong now, especially with us all seemingly voluntarily giving banks and financial services firms so much power.

[the other bob wilson]

Quite a funny read all this. Shines a light on the people who are so politically blinded that they can't even comment on a simple topic without filtering it through their political beliefs first.

Although I do take the point about banks closing accounts for someone's political beliefs, I'm guilty as charged when it comes to Farage. At the time of the 2016 vote, I was a genuine don't know and the main thing which, just about, tipped me into the remain camp was the fact that I just couldn't put myself on the same side as him.

[pipster]

Although I do take the point about banks closing accounts for someone's political beliefs, I'm guilty as charged when it comes to Farage. At the time of the 2016 vote, I was a genuine don't know and the main thing which, just about, tipped me into the remain camp was the fact that I just couldn't put myself on the same side as him.

Not quite sure why that is relevant. Whether someone is right - left - nationalist - communist should make no difference.
Coutts has prime ministers, presidents, politicians , judges, generals, journalists, entrepreneurs etc - some which I am sure I will like or indifferent or dislike.

If banks want to discriminate on the grounds the individual is a politically exposed person - then in theory Coutts would have very few customers left.

The good thing to come out of this is that the law will now be changed. Radio4 this morning had various people on giving their opinions - they invited both Nat West and Coutts to come on and discuss their 'policy' - but the interviews were declined.

They have exposed themselves and their industry of their policies - and these will now be changed.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Not quite sure why that is relevant. Whether someone is right - left - nationalist - communist should make no difference.
Coutts has prime ministers, presidents, politicians , judges, generals, journalists, entrepreneurs etc - some which I am sure I will like or indifferent or dislike.

If banks want to discriminate on the grounds the individual is a politically exposed person - then in theory Coutts would have very few customers left.

The good thing to come out of this is that the law will now be changed. Radio4 this morning had various people on giving their opinions - they invited both Nat West and Coutts to come on and discuss their 'policy' - but the interviews were declined.

They have exposed themselves and their industry of their policies - and these will now be changed.

I can only imagine the lovely people who Coutts welcome with open arms. Saudi, Chinese oligarchs, arms dealers, ...

[pipster]

I can only imagine the lovely people who Coutts welcome with open arms. Saudi, Chinese oligarchs, arms dealers, ...

Yes - although I imagine most of them prefer to buy property in London via a shell Swiss investment company they have setup.

Coutts have opened their own can of worms here - and it's a very murky can, especially when compared to an ex metal trades investor and who had the temerity to start his own political party (like we all could have done).

Same as Bank of Dave up in Burney - that program is well worth a watch

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I take from that, that you can't name an example.

I also don't think it's true about history either btw. Perhaps more so in this country, esp when one thinks of union blacklisting and things, but not generally. Nonetheless, such actions were wrong then and they are wrong now, especially with us all seemingly voluntarily giving banks and financial services firms so much power.

Example of what ?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Quite a funny read all this. Shines a light on the people who are so politically blinded that they can't even comment on a simple topic without filtering it through their political beliefs first.

Well that can be thrown right back with interest

[JamesWales]

Farage gets an apology from banking boss

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66258137.

Rightly so. Some will have warmed their hands at Farage being embroiled in this scandal but banks interfering with free speech is chilling and no one would win from it

[Heathblue]

Grovelling apology issued to Farage, by Natwest lady who is paid 5 million squid where the bank is approx. 40% owned by the tax payer , maybe its a reminder to these companies that they should concentrate on running their businesses and stop worrying about and or promoting the culture wars. Farage won a broadcasting award the other week which was won on a people's vote, he might not be likeable to many but IMO this particular win might open up a little can of worms, IMO he's just another gate keeper with the pretence of being on the side of Joe public.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Farage gets an apology from banking boss

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66258137.

Rightly so. Some will have warmed their hands at Farage being embroiled in this scandal but banks interfering with free speech is chilling and no one would win from it

What claims ?

Use your free speech

[JamesWales]

What claims ?

Use your free speech

Sorry, what?

[Eric Cartman]

Farage gets an apology from banking boss

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66258137.

Rightly so. Some will have warmed their hands at Farage being embroiled in this scandal but banks interfering with free speech is chilling and no one would win from it

I don't think it's quite that serious, if Farage was actually wealthy they wouldn't have acted.

For me this is wanker bank has public spat with one of its many wanker clients. I couldn't give a ****.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Sorry, what?

Use your free speech to inform me what claims I have apparently made which apparently I havnt answered your question on ?

I have absolutely no fecking idea what you are talking about

What claims ?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I don't think it's quite that serious, if Farage was actually wealthy they wouldn't have acted.

For me this is wanker bank has public spat with one of its many wanker clients. I couldn't give a ****.

This brexit bore I know was amazed when I told him this sort of thing has been going on for years , especially under Thatcher

He was outraged that his pin up boy farage had been stiffed , he wouldn't have batted an eyelid otherwise

[JamesWales]

Use your free speech to inform me what claims I have apparently made which apparently I havnt answered your question on ?

I have absolutely no fecking idea what you are talking about

What claims ?

Sorry, you implied this has been happening to political figures on the left for years, but I don't think you gave an example.

Nearly everyone across the spectrum has condemned Coutts and rightly so

[life on mars]

Sorry, you implied this has been happening to political figures on the left for years, but I don't think you gave an example.

Nearly everyone across the spectrum has condemned Coutts and rightly so

And rightly so thought we lived in a democracy? This will finish them another self destruct Ratner moment approaches.

[TWGL1]

Natwest CEO resigns.

Lucky not to be prosecuted for a major Data breach

https://twitter.com/gbnews/status/16...LhmySD2aRt-GNg

[pipster]

Natwest CEO resigns.

Lucky not to be prosecuted for a major Data breach

https://twitter.com/gbnews/status/16...LhmySD2aRt-GNg

That will be coming next. ICO will investigate as it's a serious breach - fine can be up to 7% of global turnover.
Anyway - did she go and get the personal details of Farage herself - or did she ask someone else to do it for her - if so who was that ?
What authorisation did that person have to do that ?
The bank twice gave the BBC a Yes in terms of the accuracy of the information passed on by the CEO.

Next to go will be the Data governance chief followed by the chair 'person' and whoever it was that giot Farage's personal information and disclosed it (another breach)

[Heathblue]

That will be coming next. ICO will investigate as it's a serious breach - fine can be up to 7% of global turnover.
Anyway - did she go and get the personal details of Farage herself - or did she ask someone else to do it for her - if so who was that ?
What authorisation did that person have to do that ?
The bank twice gave the BBC a Yes in terms of the accuracy of the information passed on by the CEO.

Next to go will be the Data governance chief followed by the chair 'person' and whoever it was that giot Farage's personal information and disclosed it (another breach)

Imagine losing your high profile job stitching Farage up
Agree that they need to get right to the top of the chain in finding out who authorised it, this needs nipping in the bud pronto the assault on our freedoms needs to be stopped.

[JamesWales]

This is all pretty delicious now.

I have very very little time for banks. Esp banks we all bailed out who then turn around and close branches, barely pass on interest rate rises, unbank people, pay themselves huge bonuses and then try and gaslight us all with woke-washing by splashing a rainbow flag on their twitter handle and preaching how inclusive they are.

I hope the whole Nat West board is bought down to earth and their little chumocracy ends and they get back to doing what they should do.

Farage is a divisive figure, everyone recognises that but he is absolutely in the right here and I think the vast majority of us recognise that, even if many don't subscribe to all his views.

[Eric Cartman]

This is all pretty delicious now.

I have very very little time for banks. Esp banks we all bailed out who then turn around and close branches, barely pass on interest rate rises, unbank people, pay themselves huge bonuses and then try and gaslight us all with woke-washing by splashing a rainbow flag on their twitter handle and preaching how inclusive they are.

I hope the whole Nat West board is bought down to earth and their little chumocracy ends and they get back to doing what they should do.

Farage is a divisive figure, everyone recognises that but he is absolutely in the right here and I think the vast majority of us recognise that, even if many don't subscribe to all his views.

Banking CEOs survived libor, mega mis-selling, organised COVID fraud and the rest.

And were brought down by a serial liar losing his posh man bank account.

How very British. When will we start caring about things that actually matter?

[the other bob wilson]

Banking CEOs survived libor, mega mis-selling, organised COVID fraud and the rest.

And were brought down by a serial liar losing his posh man bank account.

How very British. When will we start caring about things that actually matter?

A public school educated former market trader, a true man of the people. However, Farage is definitely the wronged party here and you really have to wonder about the bank’s actions as he would be the last person you’d want to get caught closing down their account for political reasons - Farage will milk the situation for all it’s worth and he has the media means and backing to do that for a very long time.

For too much of my life, I had the opinion that people in positions of power in all facets of life were more intelligent and had more nous than us ordinary types - I was wrong, the last few years have proved this, episodes like this onlyfurther confirm what is now obvious.