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Thread: Small Boats Crossing The Facts ( too much spent on this )

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    Small Boats Crossing The Facts ( too much spent on this )

    Interesting read when you absorb it all in as were spending 3 times more on this than housing the homeless already on our streets it no wonder folk get up tight .

    The report finds that in terms of small-boats Channel crossings:

    • 66.03% of the 45,755 people who crossed to the UK on small
    boats through the English Channel in 2022 were males aged
    between 18 and 39 years – (30,211 individuals).

    This is almost ten times more than the number of females who fall in the same
    age bracket (3,052 individuals).

    • The number of small-boat arrivals of Albanian nationality rose
    sharply between 2020 and 2021 (54 to 815 individuals) and
    2021 and 2022 (815 to 12,301 individuals) – near-identical
    increases of 1,409.26% and 1,409.33% respectively.

    • In both 2018 and 2019, not a single person registered as an Indian
    national arrived in the UK on small boats via the English Channel.
    From 2021 to 2022, the number of Indian nationals who crossed
    to the UK on small boats increased by 919.4% - from 67 to 683
    individuals.

    In terms of the public costs of the small-boats emergency:

    • Using the asylum backlog figure at the end of 2022 (166,261),
    the total estimated one-year cost of asylum-related spending
    on hotel accommodation, standard asylum-related allowances,
    healthcare, and school places – along with the sustenance of the
    new bodies such as the Small Boats Operational Command (SBOC)
    and a technical unit specialising in asylum applications made by
    Albanian nationals – is in the region of £3.5 billion.

    • The mid-point estimate of the one-year public spend on
    accommodating newcomers in hotels (£2.2 billion) is three and
    a half times higher than the £630 million government investment
    in 2022-23 to tackle homelessness in the UK.2
    It also exceeds the
    entirety of the government funding allocated for Round 2 of the
    Levelling Up Fund (£2.1 billion).

    • Using the asylum backlog figure at the end of 2022 of 166,261, if
    everyone involved was in receipt of the standard weekly asylumrelated allowance provided by the UK Government, this would
    have an estimated one-week cost of nearly £7.5 million. The
    estimated one-year cost is nearly £390 million.

    • Applying the healthcare-related spend per head for the general
    population, the estimated one-week expenditure based on the
    end-of-2022 asylum backlog figure of 166,261 people would be
    over £13 million. Over the course of a year, this rate of spending
    would add an estimated healthcare-related cost which is in the
    region of £700 million.

    • Based on the Department for Education’s expenditure per child,
    the estimated cost of providing asylum-connected places for one
    academic year of state-school enrolment – based on the endof-2022 asylum backlog figure – is over £186 million.

    • The estimated salary costs of the new Small Boats Operational
    Command (SBOC) are estimated at £23.7 million per year. The
    corresponding cost for the new unit dedicated to processing
    Albanian-national asylum applications is over £13 million.

    https://policyexchange.org.uk/wp-con...-Emergency.pdf

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    Bloody hell I thought they were mainly genuine refugees mainly women and children thanks LOM .

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    Why is there a backlog of 166 thousand when only 47 thousand crossed the channel last year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Bloody hell I thought they were mainly genuine refugees mainly women and children thanks LOM .
    Your conservatives have had 13 years to deal with what has been going on

    Quote me some statistics on that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Why is there a backlog of 166 thousand when only 47 thousand crossed the channel last year?
    It's a year on year build up. We have a friend who has just started working for the dept responsible for processing the claims. She is a legal secretary (the only one there). Every claim takes forever and the claim / appeal / appeal the appeal etc can take about 18 months. Not enough staff to process them, a long winded process and more arriving by the day -means it will never be cleared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    It's a year on year build up. We have a friend who has just started working for the dept responsible for processing the claims. She is a legal secretary (the only one there). Every claim takes forever and the claim / appeal / appeal the appeal etc can take about 18 months. Not enough staff to process them, a long winded process and more arriving by the day -means it will never be cleared.
    Well the Tories have had 13 years to sort it out and told everyone stupid enough to vote for them in 2010 that this was their priority

    Bare faced charlatans

    Stop the boats my arse

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Your conservatives have had 13 years to deal with what has been going on

    Quote me some statistics on that
    Get on with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Get on with it
    You realise the govt are being held back by legal challenges they profoundly disagree with and by politicians they profoundly disagree with? Govts can't literally do anything they want.

    One of the benefits of a Labour govt will be to see them own these kind of issues. I hope they can deal with it better but nothing suggests they will

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    You realise the govt are being held back by legal challenges they profoundly disagree with and by politicians they profoundly disagree with? Govts can't literally do anything they want.

    One of the benefits of a Labour govt will be to see them own these kind of issues. I hope they can deal with it better but nothing suggests they will
    They wont - unless their 'policy' is to let everyone stay - give them a house and a job and a school for their kids etc.
    And then in 2 years they will be facing the same problem but worse. But some people here fail to see the problem or have the bollox to try and fix the issue, they just take the easy route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    They wont - unless their 'policy' is to let everyone stay - give them a house and a job and a school for their kids etc.
    And then in 2 years they will be facing the same problem but worse. But some people here fail to see the problem or have the bollox to try and fix the issue, they just take the easy route.
    Shut up with your silly nonsense you daft old tart

    You voted in the tory filth who sold you the deal they would sort out immigration

    It's their problem and your problem

    Because they are failing to deal with the problem which they promised they would

    And you voted them in

    Write to Rishi Sunak

    It's not good slagging off the next government who if Labour havnt been in for 13 years

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    Re: Small Boats Crossing The Facts ( too much spent on this )

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    You realise the govt are being held back by legal challenges they profoundly disagree with and by politicians they profoundly disagree with? Govts can't literally do anything they want.

    One of the benefits of a Labour govt will be to see them own these kind of issues. I hope they can deal with it better but nothing suggests they will
    Excuses

    We will sort of Immigration .......vote for us

    Oops

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    Fiver says you’d be kicking off about scroungers and benefit cheats if we housed all the homeless people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Shut up with your silly nonsense you daft old tart

    You voted in the tory filth who sold you the deal they would sort out immigration

    It's their problem and your problem

    Because they are failing to deal with the problem which they promised they would

    And you voted them in

    Write to Rishi Sunak

    It's not good slagging off the next government who if Labour havnt been in for 13 years
    Apart from arguing with yourself on here, which is bizarre. If you can remember - we had Labour 1997-2010 (13 years) and we had Lib/Con or Conservation for the 13 years 2010-2023 - and there is an election next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    Apart from arguing with yourself on here, which is bizarre. If you can remember - we had Labour 1997-2010 (13 years) and we had Lib/Con or Conservation for the 13 years 2010-2023 - and there is an election next year.
    I was meaning to reply to your buddy but clicked the wrong button

    It happens

    I know all about the election I am looking forward to your creeps getting a right stuffing

    Hopefully it will piss you off so much you will move to Norfolk

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Bloody hell I thought they were mainly genuine refugees mainly women and children thanks LOM .
    Are you thanking yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I was meaning to reply to your buddy but clicked the wrong button

    It happens

    I know all about the election I am looking forward to your creeps getting a right stuffing

    Hopefully it will piss you off so much you will move to Norfolk
    WTF are you wittering on about.
    Just answer the question (if you can understand it)

    The last time a truly Socialist Govt was elected to power in the UK was when ?
    What's your answer ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    WTF are you wittering on about.
    Just answer the question (if you can understand it)

    The last time a truly Socialist Govt was elected to power in the UK was when ?
    What's your answer ?
    Why are you obsessed with when a socialist govt was last elected ?

    It clearly shows your pro tory arse creeping which is nauseating thinking you are a fellow Welsh man

    But whenever it was I couldn't give a feck as I am not a socialist

    I simply hate the Tories

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Why are you obsessed with when a socialist govt was last elected ?

    It clearly shows your pro tory arse creeping which is nauseating thinking you are a fellow Welsh man

    But whenever it was I couldn't give a feck as I am not a socialist

    I simply hate the Tories
    Last week you said Starma was a Tory, then you said you thought Corbyn was a cock and yet you claim to be a Labour supporter. You cant stand Drakeford, your lack of cognitive function is truly hilarious. You cant decide whether you are Marthar or Arthur sunshine

    You wouldnt know a socialist if it sh@gged you up the @arse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    Last week you said Starma was a Tory, then you said you thought Corbyn was a cock and yet you claim to be a Labour supporter. You cant stand Drakeford, your lack of cognitive function is truly hilarious. You cant decide whether you are Marthar or Arthur sunshine

    You wouldnt know a socialist if it sh@gged you up the @arse.
    Starmer is absolutely hopeless

    But even he's not bad enough to be a tory

    Corbyn is a complete cock and loads of labour party members resigned and threw in their cards when he got elected leader

    I think Drakeford is 2 years too late in resigning

    But having said that I would rather vote for any of those idiots or the liberals or green than for a tory

    That's what horse heads the majority of the population in the UK think of the Tories

    Apart from little englanders like you

    You are in a special group there

    Stick together

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Starmer is absolutely hopeless

    But even he's not bad enough to be a tory

    Corbyn is a complete cock and loads of labour party members resigned and threw in their cards when he got elected leader

    I think Drakeford is 2 years too late in resigning

    But having said that I would rather vote for any of those idiots or the liberals or green than for a tory

    That's what horse heads the majority of the population in the UK think of the Tories

    Apart from little englanders like you

    You are in a special group there

    Stick together
    "Little Englanders" - I was born in St Davids hospital you bell end and now live in Canton - after living / working and running a business outside of Cardiff.

    You are not a socialist - but you are an idiot.

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    Little Englander , with all the Conservative attributes of that lot

    But born in Wales

    That's even worse

    I will pray for your soul as you are wheeled to the ashes

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    So anyone that dares to have a different political point of view other than your own and you turn on the hate, no problem - you;ll have it back in spades.

    I was talking to an associate of yours last night in the Butchers in Rhiwbina, some interesting tales were told

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    So anyone that dares to have a different political point of view other than your own and you turn on the hate, no problem - you;ll have it back in spades.

    I was talking to an associate of yours last night in the Butchers in Rhiwbina, some interesting tales were told
    Ready when you are xx

    Is he short , bald and has bad breath ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    So anyone that dares to have a different political point of view other than your own and you turn on the hate, no problem - you;ll have it back in spades.

    I was talking to an associate of yours last night in the Butchers in Rhiwbina, some interesting tales were told
    Does Sludge like an extra large bockwurst up his ****?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Does Sludge like an extra large bockwurst up his ****?
    It depends who is providing it

    Victoria Coren Mitchell can stiff me all day

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