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Conservatives genuinely can't tell why they're not only disliked, they're hated. This feeling will only grow as time goes on and Gen Z/Alpha enter adulthood.
A good video that explains this further here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dma7_qTLjT0
They have been saying this since I was sixteen: the young will vote different. Never works. As soon as all the properties and share portfolios are passed down through Middle class Wales and England they will turn Conservative. As you get older you see the damage Left do. If you had studied economic or political history you would see it anyway.
You have less cash when you’re young. You’ll rebel against the status quo. You think you have all the answers. As you accumulate money and assets, get life experience, have kids and want to provide for them, you become less emotional and more rational. That leads you to be more Conservative. Same in US, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and here. It never changes.
The youtube video is one-eyed bile young schmuck. So I wouldn’t get hard in your trousers about that video - it’ll only go floppy again. Come back in 2035 and I’ll show you the same: Labour getting occasional wins but Conservatives will likely dominate.
Ian Bone had the right idea
https://youtu.be/ZX194qxx1j0
Even Tories hate Tories.🤣
That is a very naive way to look at things. There is a generation that are seeing wealth being accumulated but don't have the same chances as those that came before them. Things obviously can change and the UK is in a perilous position economically, as is the average person. Empires fall, theories like this that seemed like they would last forever can be gone in a generation.
"Empires fall" is wishful thinking. Where do you young donuts think the wealth will go? Two thirds of private houses in the UK are now mortgage-free, or will be in five years time. This year the amount of ISA millionaires have tripled. The elderly don't spend much - a huge wall of money will be passed down in the next ten years. More private wealth than seen in the last seventy years. The youtube video totally missed that - presumably because the bone-header editor had a very weird assumption that all this "elderly wealth" would go the government or seemingly disappear into thin air.
What has happened is a temporary abberation where because the elderly are healthier than ever before, they are living longer. But when a huge amount pass away in the next decade there is a wall of inherited wealth via share portfolios, life insurance policies and private property that is coming to a younger generation near you.
And if there is one thing we know, that when a person with no money, or little money, receive a windfall, they will not be calling for higher taxes anymore. A few may. But most won't. A bit like inheritance battles between siblings, when big money appears, most humans change their ideas and behaviours. Suddenly they won't be calling for 40% inheritance taxes and 40% capital gains taxes like a squealing Corbyn anymore. The green-eyed envy, spite and whinging will dissipate and all these Facebook / Instagram charlies will be sumping the bottles of Champagne on a yacht in the Carrribean, thanking their lucky stars that the "miserable, greedy old boomer bat called Aunt Maud" left them a will. Suddenly they will have money, assets and tax free income in their ISAs, SIPPs and share portfolios coming in. They'll be turning blue alright.
And when these whinging Millennials inherit, Gen Z will be hot on their tails for their payday too. This mob will be like the ones my age who "Hated Thatcher and the rich, money-obsessed, vulgar Tories" and voted New Labour. But once they inherited money, or had a load free / cheap debt in the early 2000s, or made money out of the tech boom, what did these Champagne Socialists do? Get on the buy-to-let train that the 1980s Thatcher yuppies did. Yep, you know the type. Out on yachts, big tech share portfolios, three holidays a year in villas on the med, champagne in ice buckets, pictures all over social media how they were living the high life. Aye, great socialists they remained - hypocrites, left right and centre.
The laughable bonehead pleb who compiled that youtube video has forgotten how predictable human behaviour is when money is on the table, and how values, principles and voting patterns will turn on a sixpence. And many idiot mugs have fallen for it, bless them. Not surprising - you just can't educate pork.
I know loads of young people, work with dozens of them. None of them are remotely as hate filled, narrow minded or bigoted as you, even allowing for the anonymity that allows trolling all the easier.
You and Sludge (by far the most abusive of the left-sided people on here) never back up your extreme conclusions with evidence. It's just endless baffling abuse.
And you live in the poorest part of the UK with health and education outcomes nearly universally worse than over the border. Honestly, you really are the kind of people that hold Wales back tbh
HAHAHAHA a ****ing tory calling someone else hate filled, narrow minded and bigoted. That's the funniest thing I've heard this week. Let's not forget other gems you've said 'GB News isn't right wing' 'Gammon is racist' and 'nobody in the UK has ever said ban all immigration'. I'll add it to the list.
Oh **** off, you've just completely made up (as usual) not backing up opinions with evidence just one example here, weird how you avoided it, I've posted it quite a few times https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.ph...ight=inflation
Also notice how not one person was able to address my question in the climate change thread about what the physical process scientists say is behind climate change and why they disagree with it. I literally asked 10 times, nobody could answer.
How can Wales prosper under Tory control? There are limited powers the Welsh Government have and the whole of the UK has been stuck under austerity for 13 years. The UK is performing amongst the worst in Western Europe in basically everything (see link above) yet you still have your head in the sand. You've had everything you've wanted, 13 years of tory, brexit and the country is a ****ing mess yet you perform huge feats of mental gymnastics and somehow have worked out, yes it's my fault. You say Europe is performing just as badly, it isn't.
'I know young people' Do you know what happens when old tories come up to me and my mates? We humour them when they spout rubbish and then laugh when they walk away.
I hope this comment wasn't too harsh for you and you don't have to have a break from the forum again snowflake.
Boring , sanctimonious listen to me crap
You have a few new friends on here but you are all full of the same nonsense
I couldn't give a toss if you think the Welsh are stupid to not vote Tory
You are in a minority in the UK thinking your public school boys should run the country and you are certainly in a minority in Wales
Google away and then pretend you have all these facts at your fingers to appear clever
I get bored with most of it especially the usual suspect
You need to chill.
Maybe I didn't make myself clear enough. In my opinion the UK is in terminal decline. No growth, flatlining economy, squeezed middle class via constant real terms pay cuts and inflated asset prices, ticking timebomb of pensions, ticking time bomb of simply maintaining life at its current quality standard, the list is almost neverending.
I don't think it's wise to extrapolate any trends (perceived or actual) under these circumstances. The world will look very different (in many many ways) in a few decades and Britain might not be a country which cant 'afford to allow' it's middle class to be bathing in inherited assets. If the majority aren't feeling rich and the Tories don't repivot to core message which is something other than 'keep everything going as it is' then they are legitimately ****ed.
Incomes in the middle have been squeezed so much so far that within the median cohort we are projected to very soon be lagging behind (in living standards) countries we would have called 3rd world a few decades ago. No reason to believe that won't continue.
'Empires fall' was referring to the above btw, not the Tory party as an empire (not sure that was clear). At a macro level the world will look very different in 50 years time.