Reply With Quote2 at home 3 in the office for most where I work. I do the opposite.
It was planned to go that way before covid. If anything, covid delayed it being implemented.
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Apparently, the UK, post C19 is the worlds capital of the WFH revolution.
I did a few years ago, offer to my boss at the time to take a 5k pay cut if i could WFH
I work better, have better facilities, better equipment and generally dislike humans, and especially since the
C19 bollox prefer to keep myself to myself and family. Offering a 5 k reduction, 50 miles per day no fuel costs,
1.5 hours per day not stuck in a car. and do the 40 hours to suit my preferable times.
My current boss wouldn't entertain it and said as much during the interview.
During C19 I was never furloughed, but because of the advise at the time, in an office of between 6 & 7 we did have
a period at which only 3 were allowed in the office and thus I had a period of 1/2 weeks at home.
Regarding productivity, if you work, you will work anywhere, if you skive, you'll skive wherever you are situated.
Do any of you still WFH ?
by Choice or by policy?
2 at home 3 in the office for most where I work. I do the opposite.
It was planned to go that way before covid. If anything, covid delayed it being implemented.
100% agree with you on this one I WFH and have done so for many years now. It's brilliant and it's civilized. I wouldn't have it any other way. There's not a lot the UK has done to be proud of itself in my opinion but if your reports are true I'm thrilled we're in the vanguard of all this.Originally Posted by Heathblue
I don't do paid work any more - early retired at 55 in 2014.
But before I retired I did a lot of WFH - usually on top of my 37 contracted hours p.w. And working from Community Centres, Council Chambers and regional/national events. I did a lot of hours each week - normally 50% or more over what I was paid for - but I needed to do it to stay on top of the job/role, and I enjoyed it (working for Sheffield Homes and Sheffield Council Housing Serrvice).
I really appreciated the flexibility of WFH, the convenience, and the ability to keep ahead of the pressures and demands. But it does depend on the nature of the work, the technology to support it, and a culture that means skiving and exploitation are both stopped.
It is also true that WFH (as with 24/7 email) means some jobs never end - and people are always 'on call' and on the job at all times and all days - evenings, nights, weekends and whilst on holiday.
Off grid and skiving is bad. Off grid and overworking is bad. Missing out on personal contacts with workmates and others is bad. Flexibility and avoiding commutes and using time more effectively is good. It all depends on the job and the personality.
No , as a business we have decided to reduce it, as its being abused .
I can pretty much work wherever I like, I tend to go into the office about 3 days a week
Will you stop winding me upI will need to go, if an employer will have me until 67 which is another 4.7 years, Bloody typical Champagne socialists you and T.O.B.W
This is my plan of attack, although having been told it isn't happening, I will soon be requesting a split week,
no longer a grafter but now a desk jockey, with technology I can do 99% of my stuff sat in the house, if they would
agree I would invest in a A3 printer/scanner which i would need.
A lot of the people who keep this country going simply can't work from home
Cleaners
Nurses
Doctors
Bus drivers
Estate agents and accountants must be enjoying these times
I will have you know I am a retired Pale Ale socialist.Will you stop winding me up
In the sense it can be viewed as an extension of things like Flexitime, then it's fine. If you can work from home the odd day, to help with childcare, when the plumbers visiting or for any other reason then fine.
But mass working from home creates huge issues and looking at things socially it is something that massively entrenches inequalities. Offices are democratic spaces where we all have access to the same amenities. You send everyone home and you send the rich to big houses with gardens and the poor to tiny flats or shared houses.
Then you add in the lack of social mixing, the loss of public transport and that's before you think about loneliness or the business reality of staff lacking engagement etc. I think it's been very bad in terms of getting most things done, but it can work for some in some circumstances.
Zoom bringing staff backs to offices says it all
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-66432173
Agreed.
And government workers , masses of purposed built wasted office space that still have to be serviced everyday exist in Cardiff .. that could be deemed as a discreet wage rise, average on travel , eating out expenses.
Agree
Work from home or 'work at home' ? Worked 'from' home for last 25 years of working life, but never at home apart from a bit of paperwork,admin etc.
My/our home is just that. I certainly would count looking at a someone's moon-shaped head and shoulders on a laptop screen as 'meeting' them. Cutting out long commutes is fair enough, but young people have increasingly poor social skills. Talking to screens most of your life isn't going to help.
I beg to disagree. Ive had a lot more intelligent conversations with screens than with many people.
WFH is costing the economy millions , hospitality industry closures , job losses , city centre restaurants struggling a report from Sheffield Uni suggested 77k in there City alone , another report I saw was predicting 20k in Cardiff. .
https://www.thecaterer.com/news/hosp...m-home-culture
Someone always suffers from the comfortable fortunes of others.
I fail to see the morality of this argument.
Should I be forced to leave home to work in some God forsaken office environment full of people I don't much care for and where I will be less productive, much more tired and irritable and far less enthusiastic, all at my expense incidentally, and purely with the purpose of maintaining the buoyancy of some chancer's hospitality project; one which I wouldn't patronise anyway? I'm no libertarian by any means but this sounds very dictatorial to me.
How many businesses outside of city centres have seen an increase in business because of WFH?
Instead of workers going to cafes, shops and bars on Queen St and St Mary’s are they now using their local high streets where businesses are more likely to be owned and run by locals and not global corporations?
People will still want lunch and coffee breaks and after work drinks. In theory they’ve got more time and more money to spend during that time due to not commuting anymore.
I’ve been working from home for 20 years. Initially as a pilot scheme. I’ve even held some seminars to companies who were keen on the idea and as far as I know most have taken it up even if it’s partial.
Pros for me
Excellent for work life balance ( especially if you have flexibility in start and end times )
Excellent for productivity
Helpful for the child care and school pickups.
Excellent for reducing sickness levels
Excellent for employers Looking to save on costs contributed to rent of office space, utilities etc
Excellent for the environment as the employee is not dependent on public transport or fuel cost / wear and tear if the car
Negativity
Bad for social interaction / isolation
Increased demand from employers wanting more output.
Resentment from employees who are still office based
Increased electricity/ gas bills ( negated by fuel costs )
Inability to “ switch off” at the end of the working day.
Unenforced I.T issues.
Training requirements are often ignored
There's about 5000+ people who pre-covid were working for the BBC and HMRC in Cardiff's suburbs. They're now working in the City centre, many albeit in a hybrid model, who are now supporting businesses in the city they weren't a few years ago. Many food outlets in the arcades and markets are thriving as a result.
well hybrid working works great for me . 2 days in work 3 days at home at the minute
get lots more done and great for meetings using teams , zoom very little background noise which is great for me a bit hard of hearing with certain sounds
and for the 'Greta' types on here saves build up of traffic at peak times in the morning and at tea time reducing fumes into the atmosphere etc less congestion on the roads a win win situation
the down side i drink too much coffee at home .i swear caffeine is far more addictive than alcohol !
Not a bitter one then?I will have you know I am a retired Pale Ale socialist.
I work hybrid which works for me great. I thought I'd be fully behind working at home only but I actually don't mind going into the office and speaking face to face. Can get a bit of cabin fever working from home.
Namby Pamby skills, us Welders do it in more positions than the Karma Sutra
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