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I think the labour party under starmer have no charisma at all and the liberal party are just as badOriginally Posted by TWGL1
If both were in good shape then I think the Tories would be stuffed
But the country are stupid enough to give the Tories another majority
If they do I won't bother with mainstream opposition parties anymore and will vote green or independent
I know loads of anti tory voters like myself who cannot belive how crap the opposition is when it needs to be marching towards victory ✌
I think this is actually a good question, I am struggling..
'something something tough decisions after Labour destroyed the economy, something something global pandemic, something something Putin's illegal war in Ukraine'
There is literally no point trying to hold them or any of their supporters to account via discourse, just need to vote them out and remember what they did.
Your political spidey senses appear to be based on nothing Sludge, Tories do not have a hope in hell of forming the next government.
Whether Labour or Lab/Lib/etc coalition are actually going to do anything is another question entirely.
It's suicide to work with them, they need a majority to govern and they won't get anywhere near that.
I'm just being sensible Sludge. I guess that can be boring to someone living in a permanent state of resolving outrage
The fact is safety checks get carried out and they don't always pass and when they don't they are immediately acted on. That's what's happened.
I can picture you coming back from the MOT with a brake failure and screaming out the window about Thatcher
How's it bias? Safety checks carried out, amidst new advice this stuff now fails and they remove it. It's inconvenient of course, but health and safety is.
Isnt this exactly the way checks are supposed to happen?
I wish I shared your optimism
I remember Kinnock and his Sheffield speech
And a few days later in walked Major
😂
I would be happy with a Labour led coalition or the Labour party in power with say ten seats and relying on the liberals to get things through
But ......the Tories are ruthless .....and Starmer is hopeless
Your naivety is almost touching.
No Bob, you are being fed a narrative. It is of course frustrating for parents (and like I said I have kids in the Welsh school system, so the fact every issue there is conveniently ignored is a little irritating) but it's a safety check that raised something and action is being taken as a result.
I have no idea what you want or how on earth you think every issue of this kind is resolved without safety checks or without acting upon them.
It's good it was raised through this process before a serious accident isn't it?
These stories are completely at odds with your version of events though;
https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...building-money
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/ne...-plans-356188/
https://bylinetimes.com/2023/09/05/a...rumbling-down/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2404682.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...overnment.html
https://www.barrons.com/news/uk-govt...opics_afp-news
As the last report says, a roof collapsed in a school five years ago due to the RAAC concrete used in it, the Government response was to send out a questionnaire and we’re now being told it’s down to the local authority to sort out.
Finally, I’m the one arguing that there have not been enough checks because of a culture of deregulation and austerity - if you can’t see that tends to lead to declining standards there’s nothing else to be said really.
they've been pretty good at funneling money into friends and relatives bank accounts
Silly analogy but I think governments are a bit like frying pans. In the early years they are teflon coated. Nothing sticks to them even though by all rights some things should. Later the coating wears off and everything you try to fry sticks and gets shitty, good things and bad. In the end the only thing you can do is replace the frying pan because it it worn out and useless. Think that is were we are now.
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Yeah, all of those from recent days and pushing this narrative of a reckless govt that has done nothing. But that isn't true.
From 2019..checks on 58 schools..
https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/local-c...rfolk-schools/
From 2021..
https://www.building.co.uk/news/more...l's%20roof.
Reality is that tests have been carried out for years and then when evidence changes they seem to have acted pretty quickly to me.
The story really seems to be about the fact it's come just before schools return, as if that's a
reason to ignore it.
I don't disagree that investment is clearly needed but I have never known a time when they wasn't the case.
So you agree that under investment and previously austerity from this government is the issue?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-66723054
Of course austerity has consequences. Loads of things that were affordable before the financial crash weren't in the following years
Shocking in Wales, a fair bit better in England from my experience, maybe the 20mph is to stop the pot hole claims, if you can't avoid them at 20 there is no hope for you.
Starmer is not too bad, I think he'll get in and do a slightly right-of-centre job, things won't change that much, but Labour will blow up after one term as the fair left kick-off, and spoil any chance of a long-term opposition again.
So the safety of schools being compromised was ok in the name of austerity? In what world is putting children going to school in danger an acceptable consequence? They’ve known about structural issues since 2010 but you’re saying they’ve resolved the issues like the well oiled machine they are and that it’s just bad timing
Starmer is awful
there are record numbers in England as well
To be honest, I did wonder whether I should include the far left ranting of the Daily Mail in that list of links.
Your argument strikes me as being on a par with that Government tweet trying to claim credit for the fact that most school’s roofs are not falling in, yet the fact is that one hundred and four schools I think it is in England have not reopened for the new academic year and that decision was only announced to the public a few days before the children affected were supposed to return to school. Are we really expected to believe that more than a hundred “unsafe” schools were discovered simultaneously about a week ago?
Forget the politics, the news management here is diabolical - there was surely an opportunity to prepare the ground for the closures by giving full explanations into what is involved, but, instead, it’s all been foisted on anxious parents and children as a fait accompli in a manner that leaves so many questions unanswered.
The decision was taken when new information emerged. Obviously sat behind the keyboard you have far more information but in the real world this is how it works.
Given how partisan you are, maybe you'll believe it if it comes from the Welsh Govt?
https://www.gov.wales/reinforced-aut...ishments-wales
"No immediate concerns", schools in Anglesey to temporarily close (just before the start of term I hear you scream!!), Expect to have the full results in two weeks ("putting kiddies lives at risk until then!"shouts you!) "New evidence provided" (why didn't you know before screams Sludge!)
You just always present these things as simple issues with pantomime villains and don't ever seen to actually realise the complexities involved.
Or more likely you do, but you just ignore them to make endless party political points on the internet
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