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We global football are very good at their simulations. If we have to fall back on the nations league pathway, it currently looks as follows:
Home semi v Ukraine, Iceland or Norway
Possibly final v Poland
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When is the draw for the next cycle of the nations league? Did we maintain league A in the end?
Wouldn't fancy Norway, or Ukraine again - we wouldn't get lucky against them again.Originally Posted by Des Parrot
We got relegated to B. Remember we had to play our World Cup playoff v Ukraine in the middle of the last round of Nations League matches, and our team selections concentrated on the WC.
Can we play Latvia in the Semi Final and Final? They’re the only team we can beat these days.
Think this has moved on with Finland falling out of a qualifying place. Now them, Ukraine and Iceland.
This is after the last round of games. Even though Finland are out of the top 2, they’re predicted to qualify with Slovenia missing out, hence Norway being the 3rd option.
Am I right in assuming that, if Poland (who just sacked their coach) get their shit together and qualify, we'll likely play Estonia instead?
Thought we’re not called Wales these days.
These days you get arrested and thrown in jail if you say you are from Wales....
Yes I believe that’s the case. Poland are currently the highest ranked team not in a qualifying place so get the nations league D team which is Estonia but if they can turn it around we are then the next highest ranked team so would get Estonia instead.
I also think the highest ranked team get a home semi final and final so not sure that means we would be away in any final if Poland are in it too, there are 3 pathways so maybe it doesn’t make a difference- it is very complicated!
So we are guaranteed a semi-final home leg?
When did this come in?
What...if you say you're Welsh they throw you in jail
Yeah....say you’re Welsh and they throw you in jail..nowadays.
If Poland get their shit together, they’ll push Czech out and they become the highest ranked team. There seems no criteria where Wales/Cymru would be the highest ranked team. Wales can only qualify via path A as B and C are for the lower ranked teams from those divisions, currently Israel & Georgia in pole positions.
We tied ourselves in knots in Latvia trying to understand the system but our best take is this which is shown in this helpful Wiki site.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_E...ying_play-offs
Teams are placed into four paths based on which league they played in in the last Nations League, ranked by performance in those leagues.
The starting point is that all group winners are guaranteed a play-off spot though the highest ranked Group D team (Estonia) is a bit of a floater.
If they qualify automatically the spot goes to the next highest ranked team in that path.
If there are insufficient non-qualifiers in a path you take the highest ranked team from the path below (excluding Group Winners)
So in path A at the moment the only teams currently outside the play off spots are Poland and Wales. That means a ranked team (currently one of three possible teams (Finland, Ukraine, Iceland) from Path B and Estonia will be in the A play-off semi-finals.
The highest ranked team will play the 4th highest at home and the 2nd playing the third in the same manner. Currently that means Poland vs Estonia and Wales vs (Finland, Ukraine, Iceland).
The home team for the final in each path is drawn rather than given to the highest ranked team.
So in the example you gave above if Poland qualify at the expense of Czech Republic it would be Czech Republic vs Estonia. But if they both qualify at the expense of Albania (and all other teams in Path A also qualify) then Wales would be the highest remaining seed and play Estonia home in the semi-final.
Oh for the days of winner goes through everyone else watches on TV.
I now suspect that AI was invented just to understand qualification rules.
It’s far easier to come second isn’t it.
Changed again after last night, if we fail to automatically qualify it’s a home semi final against one of Finland, Ukraine or Iceland. The opposition will be done via a draw (not results)
With a final against Poland?
Bloody nations league. Complicated things. just have a okay off for teams in third place.
If they beat Estonia. The venue for the final is also drawn, I assume this is done at the same time as the draw for the semi-final opponents
This is still the case after tonight’s results, with Italy qualifying.
The draw is on Thursday. https://www.uefa.com/euro2024/draws/
Path B will be drawn first, with the home teams Israel & Bosnia. 2 of the away teams Finland, Ukraine & Iceland will be drawn against the home teams. The team not drawn will play Wales in Path A, ie Wales get the left over
So if we win the semi final it's likely to be Poland in the final as they cannot qualify from their group. They are strong at home but poor away from home. So the draw for home advantage will be important.
We really want to avoid Ukraine out of those 3 teams, our luck wouldn’t hold for a 2nd time against them. Iceland would be the best of the 3, like us they,re not the team they were
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