Sexual violence adviser harassed at Cardiff-Swansea football game

[RichardM]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-66842202

Wales' national adviser on sexual violence has described how she was sexually harassed by a man at a football match.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Totally unacceptable

[J R Hartley]

Totally unacceptable

You cant have it both ways Mr Mysogyny

[Hilts]

Why didnt anyone around her sort this bloke out???

[North Cardiff Blue]

Not acceptable, he'll get caught and could be in real trouble.




https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...naded-27689971

[J R Hartley]

Not acceptable, he'll get caught and could be in real trouble.




https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...naded-27689971

Sorry but whats the purpose of your link? Pathetic to compare rugby and football on something like this. Theres obviously good and bad in fanbases of both sports.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Sorry but whats the purpose of your link? Pathetic to compare rugby and football on something like this. Theres obviously good and bad in fanbases of both sports.

It's showing it can take many forms, and sparking debate, or is one fine and the other unacceptable?

[J R Hartley]

It's showing it can take many forms, and sparking debate, or is one fine and the other unacceptable?

Pathetic whataboutery.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

You cant have it both ways Mr Mysogyny

Even coming from you that's a pathetic comment on a very serious thread



Sort yourself out

[J R Hartley]

Even coming from you that's a pathetic comment on a very serious thread



Sort yourself out

Its because of middle aged neanderthals like you, that think its ok to joke about sexually objectify the opposite sex, that breeds and normalises the kind of behaviour observed in the OP.

You have a think about that and sort yourself out and the next time you start a thread objectifying a woman you might think twice.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

It's showing it can take many forms, and sparking debate, or is one fine and the other unacceptable?

It appears that this woman was part of the fun and was consenting in the adulation

If she wasn't it would have been abusive

In the case of the alleged incident at the stadium it appears the man was drunk was told his attention wasn't wanted .....and I don't think most men would even behave like that in the first place .....then instead of apologising he persisted

Big difference between the rugby event and this incident although there are plenty of dodgy drunk blokes at the rugby

That's my view

[North Cardiff Blue]

It appears that this woman was part of the fun and was consenting in the adulation

If she wasn't it would have been abusive

In the case of the alleged incident at the stadium it appears the man was drunk was told his attention wasn't wanted .....and I don't think most men would even behave like that in the first place .....then instead of apologising he persisted

Big difference between the rugby event and this incident although there are plenty of dodgy drunk blokes at the rugby

That's my view

I think that the Wales' national adviser on sexual violence, would probably have a different view.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Its because of middle aged neanderthals like you, that think its ok to joke about sexually objectify the opposite sex, that breeds and normalises the kind of behaviour observed in the OP.

You have a think about that and sort yourself out and the next time you start a thread objectifying a woman you might think twice.

Don't be so pathetic

It's a piss take of myself more than anything else you soppy clown

And you are using this as a disingenuous bully not for any welfare of women

[J R Hartley]

Don't be so pathetic

It's a piss take of myself more than anything else you soppy clown

And you are using this as a disingenuous bully not for any welfare of women

Save it for the judge.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I think that the Wales' national adviser on sexual violence, would probably have a different view.

I agree , she might have

I think if the TV reporter says she felt offended and went along with it because she felt awkward then there might be a case

But I think it may have been a typical case of rugby high spirits ?

[North Cardiff Blue]

I agree , she might have

I think if the TV reporter says she felt offended and went along with it because she felt awkward then there might be a case

But I think it may have been a typical case of rugby high spirits ?

I would imagine most Welsh journalistic approaches would be high jinks at rugby and offensive at football.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

High jinks at rugby, offensive at the football, I would imagine most Welsh journalistic approaches would be.

I think it's fair to suggest that it's likely the TV presenter wasn't offended and may have been flattered by the public adulation bordering on a bit cringeworthy

But a bloke coming on to a woman sitting on her own after he's had a few beers and perhaps being very explicit and being persistent .......is very threatening ?

All things being equal it's a very different situation ?

[North Cardiff Blue]

I think it's fair to suggest that it's likely the TV presenter wasn't offended and may have been flattered by the public adulation bordering on a bit cringeworthy

But a bloke coming on to a woman sitting on her own after he's had a few beers and perhaps being very explicit and being persistent .......is very threatening ?

All things being equal it's a very different situation ?

Yes I'd agree

One is 100% really bad and he will face action, the other is a modern situation that 10 years ago was a bit of fun, but these days is not right and could offend some women.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Yes I'd agree

One is 100% really bad and he will face action, the other is a modern situation that 10 years ago was a bit of fun, but these days is not right and could offend some women.

I think that it's difficult for society to decide what's offensive

Plenty of women will have been watching that Welsh TV reporter and thought it was a good laugh and plenty would never go anywhere near that sort of thing and find it intimidating

I would be very surprised if any action can be taken against this bloke who is alleged to have intimidated this woman unless they have it on cctv

That's not to say it didn't happen it clearly did

[Rjk]

I think that it's difficult for society to decide what's offensive

Plenty of women will have been watching that Welsh TV reporter and thought it was a good laugh and plenty would never go anywhere near that sort of thing and find it intimidating

I would be very surprised if any action can be taken against this bloke who is alleged to have intimidated this woman unless they have it on cctv

That's not to say it didn't happen it clearly did

it also has to do with where the power dynamic lies in each situation.
experienced broadcaster, with their own camera crew etc can probably shut those guys right down if she wants to. someone on their own in a stadium with a strange bloke giving them unwanted attention is a very different dynamic.

[Dave Blue]

This may be very controversial these days but she’s not exactly ‘playing down’ her femininity considering she’s out and about with a rugby crowd.

[ninian opinian]

This may be very controversial these days but she’s not exactly ‘playing down’ her femininity considering she’s out and about with a rugby crowd.

WTF, why should a women play down her femininity?

[Divine Wright]

This may be very controversial these days but she’s not exactly ‘playing down’ her femininity considering she’s out and about with a rugby crowd.

You're wrong about this being a very controversial comment to make.....it's pathetic, dangerous and exactly the type of attitude that has lead to women getting raped. i.e. ...... it's her own fault for walking about at that time of the night, in that area , wearing what she was wearing.

You don't have to think like that. You can start thinking that women can dress, behave and be however, wherever they want without having to put up with men abusing them. I'm guessing you probably do believe in this.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

This may be very controversial these days but she’s not exactly ‘playing down’ her femininity considering she’s out and about with a rugby crowd.

It's her right to do that though it is argued

There are women however who think she's not doing their cause for equal treatment any good however

[JamesWales]

Sara Elgan posted it on her Instagram page. The case with the woman in the CCS couldn't be more different.

Need to be careful not to conflate the two and I respect of the Sara Elgan video, not all women think the same about this kind of thing. Dont want to live in a puritanical society