The Ivor Davies...

[Hilts]

Appreciate no one has said it here, but that example of Tim Martin 'sacking staff during Covid' is one of the finest examples of online misinformation there is. It spreads around online forums and echo chambers and is often cited by people (usually in s proxy Brexit debate) but it is absolutely completely false.

He did the right thing. - said that if anyone wanted to get more secure work elsewhere during Covid' then they would prioritise taking them back later.

https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampp...navirus-crisis

[RichardM]

Weatherspoons pay the same rate as other pubs etc. As for employing the 'very minimum' of staff, I suspect you've never visited Weatherspoons. One of the plus points, apart from good value beer and food, is just how many staff are there.

You're talking complete boll*cks.

I've been to various Witherspoons plenty of times and waited ages to be served because there aren't enough staff. I've eaten their crap food quite a few times as well.
It's not me that is talking bollocks

[BLUETIT]

I've been to various Witherspoons plenty of times and waited ages to be served because there aren't enough staff. I've eaten their crap food quite a few times as well.
It's not me that is talking bollocks

Why did you eat it “quite a few times”, once should have been enough

[chrisp_1927]

Always seemed to me like the great Western was run on too few staff for years. Wouldn't be surprised if that's part of the reason it's a lot quieter now than it used to be.

[Baloo]

The economy is screwed in Wales anyway more empty shops than anywhere, but hey we locked down longer and drive slower

I live in Cheltenham, which is considered a fairly affluent English town overall. There are loads of empty shops around the High Street area now. Perhaps a sign of changing consumer habits, accelerated by the lockdown.

[RichardM]

Why did you eat it “quite a few times”, once should have been enough

Sometimes there isn't much choice and I know what to expect.

[JamesWales]

I do understand why spoons isn't everyone's cup of tea - the world would be a boring place if everyone liked the same bars and restaurants.

But even if you don't like it, and you are lucky enough that price isn't an issue for you, I think everyone needs to recognise the importance of businesses that cater for all price points.

Personally I think Wetherspoons is pretty good on staff numbers tbh. There are much worse places. I also think the food is fine. Fish and chips is actually very good, as is the breakfast. The rest is cheap but cheerful enough.

[Robin Friday's Ghost]

I'm sure some of the people with a downer on Tim Martin for his views drink beer made by companies who make him look like Mother Theresa.

[Robin Friday's Ghost]

I do understand why spoons isn't everyone's cup of tea - the world would be a boring place if everyone liked the same bars and restaurants.

But even if you don't like it, and you are lucky enough that price isn't an issue for you, I think everyone needs to recognise the importance of businesses that cater for all price points.

Personally I think Wetherspoons is pretty good on staff numbers tbh. There are much worse places. I also think the food is fine. Fish and chips is actually very good, as is the breakfast. The rest is cheap but cheerful enough.

In cities like Cardiff Wetherspoons aren't essential. In many towns they are your only chance of drinking decent beer. And it is decent beer even if the food is pretty poor.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

People in pubs at 4 pm unless it's city fans on an away trip somewhere are playgrounds of the brain dead

A lot of these people wet themselves

[BLUETIT]

People in pubs at 4 pm unless it's city fans on an away trip somewhere are playgrounds of the brain dead

A lot of these people wet themselves

A lot of these people are lonely

[insider]

I drank in the Ivor regularly from its opening. The run up to the 2019 election which became the brexit election, that Tim pink headed Gammon man backed Brexit in the press and in his own pub publication.
When he got what he wanted I just thought feck him he can do without my custom as well.
This was then compounded by his comments to staff during Covid.
Coupled with the triumphant Brexiteers that seemed to frequent the place I'm glad it's closing.

[JamesWales]

In cities like Cardiff Wetherspoons aren't essential. In many towns they are your only chance of drinking decent beer. And it is decent beer even if the food is pretty poor.

I don't think the word essential could apply to any pub, although they are very important social spaces and very important to community wellbeing.

However, pubs aren't all about drinking 'decent beer', which everyone will define in their own way. They are about meeting friends, having a few drinks, some food, some company, even some warmth in some cases.

In that sense Wetherspoons are particularly important as they are nearly always the cheapest pub around, esp in some of the cities I mentioned earlier.

[Jordi Culé]

A lot of these people are lonely

Sludge is lonely, wets himself but doesn't drink, where we going with this?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Sludge is lonely, wets himself but doesn't drink, where we going with this?

Absolutely nowhere clearly

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

A lot of these people are lonely

That's because they smell of piss

[pipster]

I drank in the Ivor regularly from its opening. The run up to the 2019 election which became the brexit election, that Tim pink headed Gammon man backed Brexit in the press and in his own pub publication.
When he got what he wanted I just thought feck him he can do without my custom as well.
This was then compounded by his comments to staff during Covid.
Coupled with the triumphant Brexiteers that seemed to frequent the place I'm glad it's closing.

Other pubs are available - and lots of them in Canton. The Wife Beater Arms wont be a loss other than to the 9am drinkers who like a Stella and a fag for breakfast.

[life on mars]

Not a good pub.

Bring the Foresters.

How long will the King's last ?

[life on mars]

That's because they smell of piss

Love these caring Socalists

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Love these caring Socalists

Do you piss your pants after 6 pints ?

Get in line

[dandywarhol]

Loads of Brexiteers up in Abertillery.He's closing that one as well.

[xsnaggle]

Do you piss your pants after 6 pints ?

Get in line

My age it doesn't take 6

[A Quiet Monkfish]

I do understand why spoons isn't everyone's cup of tea - the world would be a boring place if everyone liked the same bars and restaurants.

But even if you don't like it, and you are lucky enough that price isn't an issue for you, I think everyone needs to recognise the importance of businesses that cater for all price points.

Personally I think Wetherspoons is pretty good on staff numbers tbh. There are much worse places. I also think the food is fine. Fish and chips is actually very good, as is the breakfast. The rest is cheap but cheerful enough.

Cheap and cheerful, and cooked on the premises. I had the cooked breakfast for under a Fiver, and it was surprisingly good quality produce. I'll spend £120 on a nice meal and wine with the wife, but I'd happily go back there ..

[A Quiet Monkfish]

I drank in the Ivor regularly from its opening. The run up to the 2019 election which became the brexit election, that Tim pink headed Gammon man backed Brexit in the press and in his own pub publication.
When he got what he wanted I just thought feck him he can do without my custom as well.
This was then compounded by his comments to staff during Covid.
Coupled with the triumphant Brexiteers that seemed to frequent the place I'm glad it's closing.

Where's a good left-leaning, intolerant, judgmental , insular pub you could go to ? Hmmmmm.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Where's a good left-leaning, intolerant, judgmental , insular pub you could go to ? Hmmmmm.

Quite so. However, there are lots of right-leaning, intolerant, judgemental etc.....