40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

[JamesWales]

Stop being so bloody up your arse you annoying twerp. There have been unsavoury instances of organisational failure on both sides of the curtain. Who in their right mind could justify the horrors perpetrated by the Pinochet government for example, incidentally a person your heroine Thatcher both admired and befriended.

You are just the sort of pig headed know it all pseudo intellectual who actually knows nothing.

I'm not going to provide you with a dissertation on a football message board but suffice to say, humans are able to learn from prior mistakes and it's not beyond human wit to construct improved strategies. Just because some right wing bore like you hates the left wing it doesn't make the project wrong.

I would take a left wing communal state any day over the wretched inequities of capitalism.

You are literally defending totalitarian states that butchered and enslaved their own people. Don't try and wriggle out of it. No one disputes that democratic states do bad things, but you can campaign against them and vote them out.

And evidence is highly dubious that you would actually prefer such a state to live in. In reality people were and are desperate to escape such places, such that people weren't allowed to leave, even on holiday.

There's some excellent books about the history of post war eastern Europe. Bloodlands but Timothy Snyder, Iron Curtain by Anne Applebaum are two of them

[+ the native hipster]

You obviously need to go back to primary school Hip. You haven't a clue what the word fascist means. There's a lot of truth in the old adage "empty vessels make the most noise".

lern me then , what is the dictionary definition of fascist?

[JamesWales]

You are literally defending totalitarian states that butchered and enslaved their own people. Don't try and wriggle out of it. No one disputes that democratic states do bad things, but you can campaign against them and vote them out.

And evidence is highly dubious that you would actually prefer such a state to live in. In reality people were and are desperate to escape such places, such that people weren't allowed to leave, even on holiday.

There's some excellent books about the history of post war eastern Europe. Bloodlands but Timothy Snyder, Iron Curtain by Anne Applebaum are two of them

Duplicate post.

[pipster]

What is Starma's take on this ? - Corbyn was a Hamas supporter and at the Labour party conference yesterday there was a fringe event by Palestinian Youth Movement where they applauded the news.

[JamesWales]

What is Starma's take on this ? - Corbyn was a Hamas supporter and at the Labour party conference yesterday there was a fringe event by Palestinian Youth Movement where they applauded the news.

I think Starmer strongly made clear Israel's right to defend itself etc. I didn't see the political show this morning but thats what I heard.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

What the hell are you going on about? Who has justified Pinochet? There is only one person justifying totalitarian regimes here..or do you make that two?!

You are being hypocritical

You don't like lefties and you are outraged at what goes on in left wing regimes or what went on behind the iron curtain

You are being reminded of right wing similarities such as pinochet , supported by Thatcher, one of your idols

It's no more complicated than that

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

What is Starma's take on this ? - Corbyn was a Hamas supporter and at the Labour party conference yesterday there was a fringe event by Palestinian Youth Movement where they applauded the news.

Have you got a link to the Palestinian youth movement applauding the massacres in Israel yesterday ?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Duplicate post.

Wether it's a duplicate post or not it's still showing that you are ok with saying left wing regimes are all bad whilst right wing regimes are ok

The atrocities carried out by pinochet are no different to those carried out by stalin

Different levels but same principle

Franco ......right wing Spanish fascist

[goats]

What is Starma's take on this ? - Corbyn was a Hamas supporter and at the Labour party conference yesterday there was a fringe event by Palestinian Youth Movement where they applauded the news.

Jeez corbyn, whatever become of him? In a bunker somewhere with his hero Putin maybe? He actually had a few decent ideas like the trains, but he was far too left for British people.

[JamesWales]

Wether it's a duplicate post or not it's still showing that you are ok with saying left wing regimes are all bad whilst right wing regimes are ok

The atrocities carried out by pinochet are no different to those carried out by stalin

Different levels but same principle

Franco ......right wing Spanish fascist

Sludge what the hell are you going on about? No one has praised Pinochet or Franco. Both of whom were totalisation leaders.

The only person praising totalitarian govts is Dorcus which he's been called out on.

Who has praised Pinochet or Franco? Stop making stuff up.

[JamesWales]

You are being hypocritical

You don't like lefties and you are outraged at what goes on in left wing regimes or what went on behind the iron curtain

You are being reminded of right wing similarities such as pinochet , supported by Thatcher, one of your idols

It's no more complicated than that

No I'm calling out someone praising left wing totalitarian regimes. No one has ever mentioned Franco or Pincher except you (I think they are both appalling also) and Thatcher most definitely is not one of my idols.

Left wing totalitarian govts (and right wing ones) were appalling places to live. Of course someone will be called out for praising them.

[Dorcus]

lern me then , what is the dictionary definition of fascist?

You need a lot of "lerning"!!!

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Jeez corbyn, whatever become of him? In a bunker somewhere with his hero Putin maybe? He actually had a few decent ideas like the trains, but he was far too left for British people.

Corbyn was interviewed today

I can't stand the bloke

He was right in saying it was a very complex situation with historical roots in land grabbing by the Israelis but sometimes people like him need to stfu

Just say my thoughts are with the families of this awful conflict

And leave it there

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

No I'm calling out someone praising left wing totalitarian regimes. No one has ever mentioned Franco or Pincher except you (I think they are both appalling also) and Thatcher most definitely is not one of my idols.

Left wing totalitarian govts (and right wing ones) were appalling places to live. Of course someone will be called out for praising them.

Shut up with your calling out Americanisms bollocks

Idiot

[Dorcus]

No I'm calling out someone praising left wing totalitarian regimes. No one has ever mentioned Franco or Pincher except you (I think they are both appalling also) and Thatcher most definitely is not one of my idols.

Left wing totalitarian govts (and right wing ones) were appalling places to live. Of course someone will be called out for praising them.

Utter bourgeois claptrap. You don't want to believe everything you read in Harry Potter.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Sludge what the hell are you going on about? No one has praised Pinochet or Franco. Both of whom were totalisation leaders.

The only person praising totalitarian govts is Dorcus which he's been called out on.

Who has praised Pinochet or Franco? Stop making stuff up.

Naff off somewhere ff sake

[+ the native hipster]

You need a lot of "lerning"!!!

lern me , definition?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Israelis now talking about taking it to gaza

They think they can defeat this madness ?

I am afraid both sides out there , on the extremes ......are the problem

And if the twain is never going to meet and it won't as long as religion and land and who owns it is going on in 2023 then the Israelis are insane if they think they can defeat these extremists and the extremists who attacked Israel are never going to defeat Israel

So where is this going ?

Absolutely effing nowhere

[JamesWales]

Utter bourgeois claptrap. You don't want to believe everything you read in Harry Potter.

Bourgeois! Now there's a word I haven't read in a few years.

If they were so good Dorcus why did they all get voted out as soon as the people who actually lived through them (ie, not you) had the opportunity to do so?

You should be clear in what you are praising really. Give a clear example

[JamesWales]

Naff off somewhere ff sake

I could do, or you could explain why you are randomly talking about Pinochet and Franco.

[goats]

Israelis now talking about taking it to gaza

They think they can defeat this madness ?

I am afraid both sides out there , on the extremes ......are the problem

And if the twain is never going to meet and it won't as long as religion and land and who owns it is going on in 2023 then the Israelis are insane if they think they can defeat these extremists and the extremists who attacked Israel are never going to defeat Israel

So where is this going ?

Absolutely effing nowhere

Might be the end of Gaza, they have wanted an excuse to flatten it for years and Hamas just gave them the green light

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Might be the end of Gaza, they have wanted an excuse to flatten it for years and Hamas just gave them the green light

The destruction of gaza will quieten things .....as in they will all be dead

Then in 25 years the relatives of those killed by Israel will be planting bombs and setting off rockets to get revenge

It's like a clock going round and round

[JamesWales]

It's very hard to see how it ends as the differences seem irreconcilable.

The more I hear about this attack at the festival, it sounds horrific

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

85 year old Jewish grandmother kidnapped, shown on tv being driven in a buggy by hamas fighters

Ff sake

[+ the native hipster]

It's very hard to see how it ends as the differences seem irreconcilable.

The more I hear about this attack at the festival, it sounds horrific

get over yourself , i'm going to a freshers ball tomorrow, and will be celebrating people at a gig getting killed , those scarf things are cool