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    Finally, Cameron raises concerns about Israel’s genocide.

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    There is no way that Egypt will voluntarily take refugees from Gaza. These articles make interesting reading:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2...ls-war-on-gaza

    https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/...nian-neighbors

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    How many gay people have Hamas , Hezbollah and Houthis killed and persecuted recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doucas View Post
    5000 people murdered I've heard including children. Disgusting.
    Shame on both thier houses then, or we naive to think nice Hamas didn't know what would happen . What Hamas did to innocent peace loving Israeli festival goes was both barbaric and deliberate, sadly Palestinians won't give Hamas up or if they did Hamas would kill them .

    Hanas treat Palestinians as useful fodder, bit like Hilter and Putin have done sacrificed thier own for what??

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    I see you avoided addressing the identical flood 'myth' found in remote parts of the world which were thousands of miles apart and a feature of each of these so called 'primitive societies' (??)
    No more than you avoided addressing how every species of animal managed to coexist on a big boat without eating each other let alone Noah being eaten himself. And how did all the herbivores manage?

    There’s plenty of evidence that a big flood happened. I don’t think anyone’s denying that but not to the levels described in the bible and the story of Noah’s ark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo View Post
    No more than you avoided addressing how every species of animal managed to coexist on a big boat without eating each other let alone Noah being eaten himself. And how did all the herbivores manage?

    There’s plenty of evidence that a big flood happened. I don’t think anyone’s denying that but not to the levels described in the bible and the story of Noah’s ark.
    Don't underestimate Noah. He died at the ripe old age of 950.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo View Post
    No more than you avoided addressing how every species of animal managed to coexist on a big boat without eating each other let alone Noah being eaten himself. And how did all the herbivores manage?

    There’s plenty of evidence that a big flood happened. I don’t think anyone’s denying that but not to the levels described in the bible and the story of Noah’s ark.
    I see, Noah being eaten himself. Are all the animals in London Zoo harmless then?
    That is a mystery?

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    European differences on Gaza getting clearer - although whole of Europe (and USA) moving away from unconditional, uncritical support for Netanyahu and all his works!

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...te-on-gaza-war

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    European differences on Gaza getting clearer - although whole of Europe (and USA) moving away from unconditional, uncritical support for Netanyahu and all his works!

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...te-on-gaza-war
    It's an interesting divide, and for those that are aware of the final end-game the countries due to be involved are all suitably placed within the equation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Explain to him Jon it's pretty much hell for the poor people of Gaza at the moment. We need not look to other dimensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    Explain to him Jon it's pretty much hell for the poor people of Gaza at the moment. We need not look to other dimensions.
    yes hell for the poor people of gaza , the rich leaders of hamas are living the high life thousands of miles away , and thats why us rich are better than you

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    I see, Noah being eaten himself. Are all the animals in London Zoo harmless then?
    That is a mystery?
    Did they have tranquillisers in biblical times?

    You’ve avoided the issue of the starving herbivores and what did the carnivores feed off if it wasn’t the other animals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo View Post
    Did they have tranquillisers in biblical times?

    You’ve avoided the issue of the starving herbivores and what did the carnivores feed off if it wasn’t the other animals?
    Mucking out must have been fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo View Post
    Did they have tranquillisers in biblical times?

    You’ve avoided the issue of the starving herbivores and what did the carnivores feed off if it wasn’t the other animals?
    If you are really interested and what the science on how it occured then get this BOOK.

    I agree that your questions and many more require answers for both individuals who would rather it wasn't part of history along with those who know it is.
    However even today we have many animals that can hibernate for months on end, so if God IS the Creator of the Universe, then preserving creatures in a vessel for a period of up to 12 months is certainly within His capabilities.
    If we walk down the other road, that we and the rest of the Universe is the result of chance random processes, then we are left with problems much bigger than a sleeping herbivore, in fact they look like a hippo compared to a mustard seed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    If you are really interested and what the science on how it occured then get this BOOK.

    I agree that your questions and many more require answers for both individuals who would rather it wasn't part of history along with those who know it is.
    However even today we have many animals that can hibernate for months on end, so if God IS the Creator of the Universe, then preserving creatures in a vessel for a period of up to 12 months is certainly within His capabilities.
    If we walk down the other road, that we and the rest of the Universe is the result of chance random processes, then we are left with problems much bigger than a sleeping herbivore, in fact they look like a hippo compared to a mustard seed.
    What a God,saving mere animals but can not save little children all over the world from cancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
    What a God,saving mere animals but can not save little children all over the world from cancer.
    Thanks for repeating this question, I went looking for your comment last night so I could reply but couldn't locate it.
    I think you originally said (or someone else did) that God GAVE children cancer!
    Either way, the question is this, why would cancer ever be part of the equation if a loving God set up life as we know it.
    The answer is He didn't, He set up a very different Creation but like teenagers (who mostly by their estimation are omniscient), man felt that he knew better than God and chose an alternative pathway.
    There is no perfect analogy, but let's assume you were in charge of a nuclear reactor to heat your village. You then neglect to follow the reasonable instructions given to you and you choose to leave it in a position where radiation may escape.
    Your villagers start developing tumors; but instead of admitting it was your fault, you suggest that all the villagers blame the guy that built the reactor. In this illustration, God is that guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    Thanks for repeating this question, I went looking for your comment last night so I could reply but couldn't locate it.
    I think you originally said (or someone else did) that God GAVE children cancer!
    Either way, the question is this, why would cancer ever be part of the equation if a loving God set up life as we know it.
    The answer is He didn't, He set up a very different Creation but like teenagers (who mostly by their estimation are omniscient), man felt that he knew better than God and chose an alternative pathway.
    There is no perfect analogy, but let's assume you were in charge of a nuclear reactor to heat your village. You then neglect to follow the reasonable instructions given to you and you choose to leave it in a position where radiation may escape.
    Your villagers start developing tumors; but instead of admitting it was your fault, you suggest that all the villagers blame the guy that built the reactor. In this illustration, God is that guy.
    Genuine question. Why do you specifically give God a masculine identity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    Thanks for repeating this question, I went looking for your comment last night so I could reply but couldn't locate it.
    I think you originally said (or someone else did) that God GAVE children cancer!
    Either way, the question is this, why would cancer ever be part of the equation if a loving God set up life as we know it.
    The answer is He didn't, He set up a very different Creation but like teenagers (who mostly by their estimation are omniscient), man felt that he knew better than God and chose an alternative pathway.
    There is no perfect analogy, but let's assume you were in charge of a nuclear reactor to heat your village. You then neglect to follow the reasonable instructions given to you and you choose to leave it in a position where radiation may escape.
    Your villagers start developing tumors; but instead of admitting it was your fault, you suggest that all the villagers blame the guy that built the reactor. In this illustration, God is that guy.
    I did not say God gave children cancer.
    But even your reply is so wrong.When a baby is born with cancer is that child to blame?
    If not, why does this amazing God choose to ignore the child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    Denial. Noted.
    I'm sure many in these discussions (both silent and active) value their eternal soul and don't choose to bury their heads in the sand. Others like this GUY in the Turkish Goverment who tried to curse Israel by asking his false God to retaliate against them around 6 weeks ago - thereby speaking against the Jews and the God of the Bible - think they can deny Him and disrespect Him and His People Israel. He like millions of others, found out that Genesis 12:3 still applies today - "I will bless those who bless you and curse those who treat you with contempt...."

    After this sudden drama, he was taken to hospital and died 2 days later.
    Fair play for a Christian and my limited understanding and interpretation of Christian beliefs, you're coming across as a bit of a zealous cuunt?

    Or is Christianity a bit of a cuuntish religion when you strip away all the child friendly stuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    Fair play for a Christian and my limited understanding and interpretation of Christian beliefs, you're coming across as a bit of a zealous cuunt?

    Or is Christianity a bit of a cuuntish religion when you strip away all the child friendly stuff?
    Since when was zeal a bad thing?
    Would you choose to watch City with a half hearted fan or someone who follows City with real zeal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    Since when was zeal a bad thing?
    Would you choose to watch City with a half hearted fan or someone who follows City with real zeal?
    I'm a half hearted City fan, I attend games under duress if I'm honest.

    In regards to my two questions I'm assuming the answer is, yes you are and yes it is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    I'm a half hearted City fan, I attend games under duress if I'm honest.

    In regards to my two questions I'm assuming the answer is, yes you are and yes it is?
    Apathy is a growing attitude; however it holds no appeal for me and when we think back to our education, when we were introduced to a new subject that we knew little or nothing about, it was always the teachers with a passion for the subject that successfully took more pupils with them on that journey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    Apathy is a growing attitude; however it holds no appeal for me and when we think back to our education, when we were introduced to a new subject that we knew little or nothing about, it was always the teachers with a passion for the subject that successfully took more pupils with them on that journey.
    I admire your passion for your beliefs but when they appear to override compassion, common sense and any humanity towards others you're coming across as I described in an earlier post.

    Still, its whatever floats your boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    I think you will find that truthpaste probably introduced the religious aspect to this thread. I could be wrong, of course.
    Probably but others keep it going. I admire his tenacity though, fair play. I tend to take the "shake the dust off your feet" approach myself.

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    Back to the topic of the thread for a moment

    I see on Al Jazeera news that the Egyptians appear to be building a guarded security enclosure on their side of the wall with Rafah to create a safe space for Palestinian refugees. At last an answer to the question I have been asking for a while - what would Egypt do if there was a sudden mass stampede of refugees when the IDF start their ground invasion of Rafah. They have obviously woken up to the fact that this is a likely scenario. It is good to see fellow Arabs doing something positive. I don't know if they will be able to cope with the likely numbers though but at least this way humanitarian aid can be provided directly to these poor people in a safe environment with less chance of Hamas getting their hands on it.

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