40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

[the other bob wilson]

If you've an hour to spare, this is well worth a watch - the hoops I was put through by You Tube before I could view it are definitely justified though , it's not an easy watch.

[jon1959]

If you've an hour to spare, this is well worth a watch - the hoops I was put through by You Tube before I could view it are definitely justified though , it's not an easy watch.

I wish everyone would watch that. Watch it critically, but watch it. It is a small corrective to almost 6 months of news output that overwhelmingly has amplified (uncritically) the Israeli propaganda machine - and co-opted Blinken, Biden etc so successfully (where their rowing back and retraction of the most blatant lies has never been given media attention).

[Citizen's Nephew]

I wish everyone would watch that. Watch it critically, but watch it. It is a small corrective to almost 6 months of news output that overwhelmingly has amplified (uncritically) the Israeli propaganda machine - and co-opted Blinken, Biden etc so successfully (where their rowing back and retraction of the most blatant lies has never been given media attention).

well done Bob for posting that. I agree with Jon's reply too.

[Rjk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingas****/s/5COWBFhknF

this is purportedly in Gaza but I haven't been able to find confirmation.

while far from being the worst things you can see from the region I still found it a really hard watch, that poor kid.

[Citizen's Nephew]

https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingas****/s/5COWBFhknF

this is purportedly in Gaza but I haven't been able to find confirmation.

while far from being the worst things you can see from the region I still found it a really hard watch, that poor kid.

I have to steel myself to stay up-to-date with so much of this. I find I have to mentally, be in the 'right' place so as not to want to sleep and cover myself with a duvet for days.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Israel-Gaza war live: UN security council passes immediate ceasefire resolution; US ‘disappointed’ after Israel cancels visit.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...le-east-latest

[truthpaste]

Israel-Gaza war live: UN security council passes immediate ceasefire resolution; US ‘disappointed’ after Israel cancels visit.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...le-east-latest

Looking from the outside (always a limited view to some extent until all the facts are usually made known to the world long after the event) Israel is pushing the countries to the limit who are still standing with them to a lesser or greater extent.
They are possibly moving much closer to the final scenario where all goverments will try to act against them by force; of course this could be a distant prelude to that final event, or it may not be.

[stevo]

That final event being the one that is predicted in the bible?

[truthpaste]

That final event being the one that is predicted in the bible?

By God, who has a 100% success rate in such matters.

[jon1959]

By God, who has a 100% success rate in such matters.

Rubbish. I'm sure He/She/It went out on penalties to Baal last time!


(Can the fairy tale pushers please stop hijacking this thread? You can talk to yourselves on the Fundamentalist one )

[lardy]

I see Trump is now selling his own bibles.

You might be getting a couple of ccmb converts soon, truthpaste.

[truthpaste]

I see Trump is now selling his own bibles.

You might be getting a couple of ccmb converts soon, truthpaste.

We all need a Saviour and he isn't Mr Trump, all people need to do is to test all things and see where that leads them.

[Citizen's Nephew]

I see Trump is now selling his own bibles.

You might be getting a couple of ccmb converts soon, truthpaste.

Watch it. Truthpaste will be pointing to the perfectly good Trump thread over there. I had my wrists slapped for daring to swerve the Dark Clouds thread.

....and yeah. We need a God thread. The guys at CERN can chip in.

[stevo]

So Truthpaste, are you still supporting Israel's actions? Or have you changed your mind like everybody else seems to be doing?

[truthpaste]

So Truthpaste, are you still supporting Israel's actions? Or have you changed your mind like everybody else seems to be doing?

Well first of all there are no shortage of people who wouldn't need to switch sides because they were never going to stand by the descendants of Abraham even if they were the last race on Earth.
Secondly while I stand by Israel and always will, I acknowledge that throughout their history they have often acted in a fashion that is unacceptable; and so just like a parent that stands with their child irrespective of their triumphs, failures or mistakes, I do the same but would confess that this doesn't mean I say they are constantly in the right because of my stance.
There are two other factors here:-
1. Hamas have planned and played the world re this whole saga long before October 2023. They planned very carefully and cunningly for the events happening now in great detail, and the reaction that would come as Israel fought for guaranteed boarder peace for their citizens and of course the lives of the hostages that still potentially remain alive.
2. Hopefully there will come a point (sooner rather than later we pray) when the full truth will emerge re EVERY aspect of this conflict, from planning the attack, the defence, and the use of Palestinian citizens by Hamas in achieving their long term goal, mainly turning as much of the world against Israel which will (they think) help them get what they have always wanted, the total extermination of the Jews.

[jon1959]

Well first of all there are no shortage of people who wouldn't need to switch sides because they were never going to stand by the descendants of Abraham even if they were the last race on Earth.
Secondly while I stand by Israel and always will, I acknowledge that throughout their history they have often acted in a fashion that is unacceptable; and so just like a parent that stands with their child irrespective of their triumphs, failures or mistakes, I do the same but would confess that this doesn't mean I say they are constantly in the right because of my stance.
There are two other factors here:-
1. Hamas have planned and played the world re this whole saga long before October 2023. They planned very carefully and cunningly for the events happening now in great detail, and the reaction that would come as Israel fought for guaranteed boarder peace for their citizens and of course the lives of the hostages that still potentially remain alive.
2. Hopefully there will come a point (sooner rather than later we pray) when the full truth will emerge re EVERY aspect of this conflict, from planning the attack, the defence, and the use of Palestinian citizens by Hamas in achieving their long term goal, mainly turning as much of the world against Israel which will (they think) help them get what they have always wanted, the total extermination of the Jews.

That's a 'yes' then.

[jon1959]

https://news.gallup.com/poll/642695/...tion-gaza.aspx

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- After narrowly backing Israel’s military action in Gaza in November, Americans now oppose the campaign by a solid margin. Fifty-five percent currently disapprove of Israel’s actions, while 36% approve.

[jeepster]

Well first of all there are no shortage of people who wouldn't need to switch sides because they were never going to stand by the descendants of Abraham even if they were the last race on Earth.
Secondly while I stand by Israel and always will, I acknowledge that throughout their history they have often acted in a fashion that is unacceptable; and so just like a parent that stands with their child irrespective of their triumphs, failures or mistakes, I do the same but would confess that this doesn't mean I say they are constantly in the right because of my stance.
There are two other factors here:-
1. Hamas have planned and played the world re this whole saga long before October 2023. They planned very carefully and cunningly for the events happening now in great detail, and the reaction that would come as Israel fought for guaranteed boarder peace for their citizens and of course the lives of the hostages that still potentially remain alive.
2. Hopefully there will come a point (sooner rather than later we pray) when the full truth will emerge re EVERY aspect of this conflict, from planning the attack, the defence, and the use of Palestinian citizens by Hamas in achieving their long term goal, mainly turning as much of the world against Israel which will (they think) help them get what they have always wanted, the total extermination of the Jews.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c2vdnvdg6xxt
Hope this shows their true motives.

[jeepster]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c2vdnvdg6xxt
Hope this shows their true motives.

Could not get the correct report,showing that Israel settlers are all ready to move into Gazza.

[stevo]

And have you watched the YouTube video posted above yet?

[Citizen's Nephew]

Jewish settlers set their sights on Gaza beachfront

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68650815

[jeepster]

Jewish settlers set their sights on Gaza beachfront

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68650815

Thank you very much.

[truthpaste]

Jewish settlers set their sights on Gaza beachfront

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68650815

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One small section of coastline, yet if Israel had the land originally deeded to them they would be at beaches in what are now no less than eight other countries with access to the Persian Gulf, the Red Sea, the Nile and the Black Sea.
Also given the fact that many Muslim Countries are rich in oil (for example 25% of the World’s Oil can be found in Iraq), then why is this untold wealth not being used to accommodate those in Palestine that are in such desperate conditions?

And let’s remember that those conditions have been unacceptable long before October 2023. Are these Muslims somehow NOT brothers and sisters in the same faith serving the same God, namely Allah?

[Citizen's Nephew]

greater2.jpg

One small section of coastline, yet if Israel had the land originally deeded to them they would be at beaches in what are now no less than eight other countries with access to the Persian Gulf, the Red Sea, the Nile and the Black Sea.
Also given the fact that many Muslim Countries are rich in oil (for example 25% of the World’s Oil can be found in Iraq), then why is this untold wealth not being used to accommodate those in Palestine that are in such desperate conditions?

And let’s remember that those conditions have been unacceptable long before October 2023. Are these Muslims somehow NOT brothers and sisters in the same faith serving the same God, namely Allah?

Jabalia camp Gaza City. Destroyed by Israeli airstrikes. Where is your compassion? I'm not feeling it mate. You sound like a Zealot.

Jabalia camp.jpg

[truthpaste]

Jabalia camp Gaza City. Destroyed by Israeli airstrikes. Where is your compassion? I'm not feeling it mate. You sound like a Zealot.

Jabalia camp.jpg

I have already commented on the complexities and atrocities of the war and the part that both sides have played in it; the people of Palestine have been the victims in a mission carefully planned and exectuted by Hamas, who knew how Israel would respond and what that would mean for the everyday people of Palestine.
While the terrible suffering of families on both sides of the boarder is unacceptable and ultimately unnecessary, we are now discussing the response and the financial means to respond appropriately; particularly from those in the same worldwide spiritual camp.