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Someone telling us how bad the Tories are in 3..2..1
I blame Ed SheeranOriginally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost
probably a tory
The initial feasibility study suggests that the amount of money needed to be spent had increased ASTRONOMICALLY since 2018
The main cause of these rising costs have been caused by covid
Isn't it responsible to stop spending money if its suggested that costs are prohibitive ?
What exactly is it you want ?
I think most people want a decent railway system with affordable infrastructure and fares , which will ease the burden of the failed £142m M4 relief road.
I'm sure they do. Where's the money going to come from? Everytime someone talks about Welsh Government spending they often say it should be prioritised on the NHS.
The £150 million they gave back last year because they didn't spend it might have helped
Maybe we do need extra Senedd members to avoid cockups like that.
Lee Waters is a moronic cretin, who does nothing to help with transport.
Nonce father drakeford wastes money but blames Westminster when it suits
There always seems to be money available for wars. How much money has been wasted on the military action in Iraq , Ukraine, and now Gaza ?
Millions wasted on a rail project, promised for years, out of control costs and it seems welsh labour have dropped the whole thing on a whim.
What a shambles.
It’s time for the tories to be given a chance in wales, this wouldn’t happen on their watch
Not wasting it on gimmicks?
Maybe not shutting down the economy on a COVID-19 whim, maybe not slowing down tourism?
You can't say we are not building any more roads and we won't allow any more trains?
This will further damage tourism and the economy.
If this situation had arisen in isolation then your argument might hold some water. However, it is just the latest in a long line of failed and badly planned schemes set up by the WAG that have literally wasted hundreds of millions of pounds. This is entirely Labour in Wales’s fault and for you to stand there and try and defend the shambolic bunch of idiots that are currently in charge of this country is reprehensible and a golden example of someone who will vote Labour no matter what they do or how badly trashed the country is.
Well I think you have to weigh that up with the opposite view that the majority of the Welsh voting public would rather stick baseball bats up their arses than vote conservative ?
I mean it's not a good showing for your shower of tosspots is it ?
But since covid the schemes costs have become unaffordable
Isn't that sensible ?
I think you’re correct on that , but these days the roads are not fit for the cars , so whilst expensive initially, surely it would be better to plough all of transportation reserves into the rail network. Some of the train services are very good value if you have a family railcard but notably it’s considerably more expensive for single travellers, and you have to travel on specific trains to get the best possible price.
I have been to a few events and seen the gridlock first hand (Ed Sheeran, Anthony Joshua) It really can not be exaggerated how bad it can get. there was a taxi line of hundreds of people at 2am after the boxing.
They keep saying they increase train capacity at major events, but they never do, always the same services running at the same times.
Giving the proximity of the train station, this is a massive own goal, A significantly increased service in all directions would basically solve the issues.
At the same time I do not have much sympathy for the drivers who expect to be able to drive right into the city centre 30 mins before and drive right out 30 mins after, if you do not have to take your car then do not.
How much would be an acceptable amount to have spent before realising the scheme wasn't worth pursuing?
£1m? £5m?
Well we should be getting massive amounts of money from our share of the cancellation of HS2, perhaps we can use some of that.
Keep telling us to use pubiic transport, then do this.
Cardiff is a medium sized city like Coventry, Leicester etc
But it attracts the sporting and entertainment events that even places twice the size like Glasgow would struggle to host
Therefore big bands at the principality bring in say 100000 people that the city cannot really compete with
It's the same with big football and rugby games
These events are 4 or 5 times a season and the trains and roads simply can't cope
If the transport system is going to be improved and invested in then is it worth the money if a week after a european football size game or similar the roads are back to normal and lots of train services are taken off rota ?
If Bristol , Southampton , Nottingham , Coventry , Leicester etc held a few games or events a year that drew huge crowds would the various city councils invest in new trains and roads ?
Could Bristol cope with big demands on its transport system at the moment ?
The answer is no , it's already completely clogged like Cardiff
No way Bristol could cope with a huge stadium and 100,000 people trying to leave the centre, even the main train station isn’t very central. The traffic there was worse than cardiff is now 20 yrs ago….
They didn't invent covid
Covid has made councils all over the UK withdraw funding for building , transport , health projects etc
should have a windfall tax on the Tory cronies gravy train.
I was going to ask if you always miss the point by so much, then realised who I was replying to, so I know that you and the point are rarey in the same postcode.
Either they want us to reduce car use and use public transport, or they dont. Covid has nothing to do with that.
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