Reply With QuoteWe can charge different amounts of tax on these now, so tax in pubs can be cheaper than super markets.Originally Posted by splott parker
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I was latish home tonight, not sure where the train came from probably Abertawe, but with those who joined at Bridgend, it was like a travelling bar
We can charge different amounts of tax on these now, so tax in pubs can be cheaper than super markets.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/t...0-british-pubs
Why throw copious amounts of liquid down your throat for hours on end when you can have a nasty 'Toot' habit? All the thirty somethings are on it.
What's "toot"? Smoking heroin?
Cocaine (Or a loose definition of it) It's rampant, it's cheap, and it's utter garbage. The purity levels are low and it's cut with some absolute poison. So many people on it these days.
Coke and pubs aren't incomparable mind are they..
No, you're right. Although i know plenty of people who sniff at home with a few beers, and a fair few who have a line or two in work.
Back to pubs-For a better understanding on why so many are closing would be to look at the changing role of the working class bloke and society, working practices and the demographics of the least affluent areas. Pubs in more middle class areas have survived because these places haven't seen the shifts that the poorer areas have.
Binge drinking and the resulting chaos is the real killer for pub culture in Wales. Especially in cities and provincial towns.
A pub where people go for a spot of grub and two, three, four pints is a social hub. A pub, or maybe pub/club where people go to drink beyond levels that can be considered enjoyable is an anti-social burden on that part of town. It's certainly not much fun for people who live locally.
That said, I would be in favour of public funding for a traditional pub that can offer food and music, comedy, theatre events. Like a sort of community centre.
What if I don't want to go to a pub,?
Yeah your last point is key. Pubs are an absolutely critical piece of social infrastructure. People are going to drink, it's so much better to do so in a pub, where you can talk, be looked over, have viewed shared and moderated, as well as walking around more, socialising generally etc.
It's so important.
Like so many similar things, it feels under attack generally in the internet / mobile phone age really.
That said, people travel more too now. People go on more elaborate stag dos and go to town more or other cities. I guess part of it is natural changes but I do think more understandign of how important pubs are is needed.
I'm not sure how important posh pubs are though. I always view pubs as bringing society together. But when you have a kind of modern pub, cashless, charging £6.50 a pint or whatever, they are doing that to keep people out really. I have no time for that and they are almost the opposite of what traditional pubs role is.
Just out of interest, I went out out tonight, to the Wetherspoons in Gloucester. £2.88 a pint & I stopped counting at a thousand people, probably 1200 or so inside. 13 behind the bar, must have been coining it. 10 pints & 2 curries, less than £45
Tim Martin will be the last person laughing in the industry, people can get behind causes like 'neverspoons' and supporting local pub prices, but their prices are so much lower than the majority of other pubs that they will always be a preference.
Spoons outside of central London on weekends are absolutely packed, pubs a few minutes away are not for the main. Especially those that don't put sport on.
If you want a drink and don’t want to use a pub, drink in your house. The beer will be a bit dearer but if you want to drink anti socially that’s the price to pay. Having a pint socially, in good company, is a treasured thing that seems to be, sadly, slipping away. Humans should be mixing, not sat on their settee on their own on a midweek night clutching a can watching telly.
I do agree Splotty, And i know that the topic is pubs, but there are other activities other than football and drinking that people can get involved in. Sport, Exercise, courses etc. There's loads to do
It's enormously important 👍
There are plenty of opportunities to mix and socialise without going to a pub
I would rather chat in a community centre or hub than sit in a pub surrounded by people who have been drinking alcohol
After a couple of drinks most people start becoming incredibly boring
Sport & local pubs go hand in hand, I equate the demise of local parks football/baseball etc with the demise of pubs. Many teams were formed by lads getting together in their local with a ‘Why don’t we get a side together and join the District or Combination League’. The landlord would be happy encouraging them back after their games, giving them a base, win/win for everyone. You’d play a team away and go back to their base sometimes. I formed friendships, that still last to this day, with opponents throughout Cardiff and beyond through sport, which all stemmed from pubs and clubs. And, importantly, not through being pissheads but through comradeship.I do agree Splotty, And i know that the topic is pubs, but there are other activities other than football and drinking that people can get involved in. Sport, Exercise, courses etc. There's loads to do
The demise of this has led to ‘estate isolation’ and, perhaps, unhealthy rivalry that didn’t exist yesteryear because you got to know people from other areas, not just through football/rugby/baseball etc but also skittles, darts, pool etc. All, sadly, dying because of the lack of pubs.
If it makes 'em feel good about themselves, bunch of amateurs
Spot on about the demise of pubs affecting sports teams. Not so many years ago there was four divisions in The Barry and District league and around 50 teams, now it's just two divisions and around 20 sides.
For demise, see darts, used to be every night of the week, multiple leagues, now you’d struggle to find one team
Plenty of people aren't that interested in mixing with random people with a variety of nonsensical views. Going out with friends is one thing, going out with random strangers is another.
After watching the Wales game I think we maybe should nationalise Opium Dens
There's a young couple [30's] across the road from me. Since COVID he and his wife both work from home. Tesco delivers their food etc, and the occasional Deliveroo for 'special occasions'. Mid morning he pops down the road and brings back two coffees. That's it. They barely go anywhere, and it's the same for a growing majority of young people. My wife and I are in our local twice a week with friends and it's the best therapy you can have.
Weren't your friends random people to you at some point
Of course, but none of them are random people I've bumped into in a pub.
I do visit pubs from time to time, particularly if I'm watching City but I do go out with friends to pubs from time to time. I can't say I ever socialise with anyone bar the group of people I'm with, and they're all the same.
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