Is it time to nationalise Pubs?

[splott parker]

Of course, but none of them are random people I've bumped into in a pub.

I do visit pubs from time to time, particularly if I'm watching City but I do go out with friends to pubs from time to time. I can't say I ever socialise with anyone bar the group of people I'm with, and they're all the same.

So you never have a chat with anyone bar your mates? Not at the bar, someone who’s sat on the next table etc. How did you meet your mates?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

So you never have a chat with anyone bar your mates? Not at the bar, someone who’s sat on the next table etc. How did you meet your mates?

How did I meet my mates? Work and music mainly. Most of my mates I've known for years.

No, I don't usually give a shit about any strangers sitting on the table next to me. I'm too busy talking about stuff with friends that interests me. I'm not someone who takes too kindly to any stranger who wants to strike up some random conversation about something that doesn't interest me, either.

I know others who are like me as well. We're not all people who are happy to talk to anyone about anything.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Shut the pubs

Turn them into housing association flats or community centres

Those that still want to drink buy them cans and send em down the park

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

How did I meet my mates? Work and music mainly. Most of my mates I've known for years.

No, I don't usually give a shit about any strangers sitting on the table next to me. I'm too busy talking about stuff with friends that interests me. I'm not someone who takes too kindly to any stranger who wants to strike up some random conversation about something that doesn't interest me, either.

I know others who are like me as well. We're not all people who are happy to talk to anyone about anything.

My mates in a band

He did a charity gig with his mates for the tsunami disaster

We all met in a pub near the venue which was one of those mega boozers with lots of function rooms and bars , great place

We are just having a few drinks before the band had to go on , wives , girlfriends , groupies like me , just chilling

Was chatting to my mate about bands etc , got up to go to the bar and this bloke notices my tool t shirt , he's pissed up but at the bar I was pleasant then went and sat back down

Next thing we know he's pulled up a chair and talking shite and making us all feel uncomfortable

So we all decided to do one when he went to the toilet

An hour later he turns up in the gig , making an absolute arse of himself and in the end he started threatening us so I grabbed hold of him took him to the bouncers and out he goes

The bouncers then have a go at me for not letting them deal with him ff sake

That's the thing in places like pubs where people are pissed , you be pleasant and nice to these idiots but there's always one drunken old bore ready to spoil the evening

Feckin hate pubs , don't mind them in the day for a bit of food out of the way of the boozers though

[splott parker]

How did I meet my mates? Work and music mainly. Most of my mates I've known for years.

No, I don't usually give a shit about any strangers sitting on the table next to me. I'm too busy talking about stuff with friends that interests me. I'm not someone who takes too kindly to any stranger who wants to strike up some random conversation about something that doesn't interest me, either.

I know others who are like me as well. We're not all people who are happy to talk to anyone about anything.

But ‘socially’ there is a place for people who are happy to talk to anyone about anything. Not everyone is so insular and ‘closed shop’. The pub is an important part of UK society, a great place to meet and chat. Loads of wonderful marriages, resulting in cracking kids, began in a random pub meeting.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

But ‘socially’ there is a place for people who are happy to talk to anyone about anything. Not everyone is so insular and ‘closed shop’. The pub is an important part of UK society, a great place to meet and chat. Loads of wonderful marriages, resulting in cracking kids, began in a random pub meeting.

And I haven't said otherwise.

It's similar to supermarket checkouts. Some love the interaction with someone scanning items. Some people find it very socially awkward. I can see both points of view. Some can't.

[xsnaggle]

Youngsters drink much less than we did at their age generally.

Speak for yourself

[xsnaggle]

Drinking isn't that bad for you in moderation. Infact i have read that booze can be a net benefit and extend life. Not sure how true that is...maybe with wine at lunch
The social aspect is undoubtedly wonderful for you but hard to measure.

What strain is going to be put on when all the numbers of people currently dying from tobacco and drink related illnesses live instead to a ripe old age with the cost and facility use of all the transplants increases, when the numbers suffering dementia and parkinson's increase and the cost of treatments/ medicines goes through the roof?
Its a bit of a double edged sword, ans that's without the loss or revenue to the tax man who will have to find the money.

[xsnaggle]

Do you mean exclusively from a pub? My locals still operate as off licenses. The real ale pub does takeaway bladders (honest) which I think holds 4 pints. Quite a few collect their ale that way.

Yes, ban beer sales from shops but let the keep the wine and spirits

[xsnaggle]

There’s no such thing as WAG any longer. It’s the Welsh Government. The institution is called the Senedd and has been for years.

Strike a nerve??

[xsnaggle]

Cocaine (Or a loose definition of it) It's rampant, it's cheap, and it's utter garbage. The purity levels are low and it's cut with some absolute poison. So many people on it these days.

There speaks man who know!!!! We won't ask how.

[splott parker]

Cocaine (Or a loose definition of it) It's rampant, it's cheap, and it's utter garbage. The purity levels are low and it's cut with some absolute poison. So many people on it these days.

You need to consider changing your dealer

[JamesWales]

I would say a good 20-25% of people my age I know semi-regularly use coke. It is everywhere.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Vast majority of assaults and public order offences happen in pubs , clubs or near to them

Avoid them if you have any common sense

[MacAdder]

I would say a good 20-25% of people my age I know semi-regularly use coke. It is everywhere.

Ah, but is it the real thing?

[life on mars]

No dont nationalise anything . as history shows it doesn't work , let the commercial world take care of its self with some help from government as they did the cider industry , take the carp at supermarkets and bargain booze , which will produce more pub footfall , profit and jobs .

It is a dying trade though as youngsters are not engaged in pub culture although ironically they enjoy the jobs it provides ??

The 10% above inflation tax rise for cider came into force at the end of last month after being announced by Labours Chancellor Alistair Darling. repealed by Tories ,results in a thriving industry well done George Magners Osborne
( burph )

Two of the best chancellors in recent times though , Darling and Osborne both Tories though

[Alan Lung]

My mates in a band

He did a charity gig with his mates for the tsunami disaster

We all met in a pub near the venue which was one of those mega boozers with lots of function rooms and bars , great place

We are just having a few drinks before the band had to go on , wives , girlfriends , groupies like me , just chilling

Was chatting to my mate about bands etc , got up to go to the bar and this bloke notices my tool t shirt , he's pissed up but at the bar I was pleasant then went and sat back down

Next thing we know he's pulled up a chair and talking shite and making us all feel uncomfortable

So we all decided to do one when he went to the toilet

An hour later he turns up in the gig , making an absolute arse of himself and in the end he started threatening us so I grabbed hold of him took him to the bouncers and out he goes

The bouncers then have a go at me for not letting them deal with him ff sake

That's the thing in places like pubs where people are pissed , you be pleasant and nice to these idiots but there's always one drunken old bore ready to spoil the evening

Feckin hate pubs , don't mind them in the day for a bit of food out of the way of the boozers though

Oh dear.

[Tuerto]

No dont nationalise anything . as history shows it doesn't work , let the commercial world take care of its self with some help from government as they did the cider industry , take the carp at supermarkets and bargain booze , which will produce more pub footfall , profit and jobs .

It is a dying trade though as youngsters are not engaged in pub culture although ironically they enjoy the jobs it provides ??

The 10% above inflation tax rise for cider came into force at the end of last month after being announced by Labours Chancellor Alistair Darling. repealed by Tories ,results in a thriving industry well done George Magners Osborne
( burph )

Two of the best chancellors in recent times though , Darling and Osborne both Tories though

So don't Nationalise the pub industry because it doesn't work, but accept some Government help? And then you go on to say that the Markets take care of things. The markets are taking care of things, that's why they're all closing. Capitalism at it's finest.

[jon1959]

No dont nationalise anything . as history shows it doesn't work , let the commercial world take care of its self with some help from government as they did the cider industry , take the carp at supermarkets and bargain booze , which will produce more pub footfall , profit and jobs .

It is a dying trade though as youngsters are not engaged in pub culture although ironically they enjoy the jobs it provides ??

The 10% above inflation tax rise for cider came into force at the end of last month after being announced by Labours Chancellor Alistair Darling. repealed by Tories ,results in a thriving industry well done George Magners Osborne
( burph )

Two of the best chancellors in recent times though , Darling and Osborne both Tories though

Can anyone help?

I tried Google translate but all I got was :

'Don't nationalise - subsidise with taxes. Sell fish in Bargain Booze to save the pubs. Youngsters like jobs - but that is ironic. The 2010 Labour Chancellor raised taxes for cider last month.'

Is this all from the next Tory manifesto?

[splott parker]

No dont nationalise anything . as history shows it doesn't work , let the commercial world take care of its self with some help from government as they did the cider industry , take the carp at supermarkets and bargain booze , which will produce more pub footfall , profit and jobs .

It is a dying trade though as youngsters are not engaged in pub culture although ironically they enjoy the jobs it provides ??

The 10% above inflation tax rise for cider came into force at the end of last month after being announced by Labours Chancellor Alistair Darling. repealed by Tories ,results in a thriving industry well done George Magners Osborne
( burph )

Two of the best chancellors in recent times though , Darling and Osborne both Tories though

Fluent Gobbledygook

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Fluent Gobbledygook

Tried asking chatgpt to translate LoM's post into English. I got a reply, saying "I'm not a fecking miracle worker".

[Tuerto]

Can anyone help?

I tried Google translate but all I got was :

'Don't nationalise - subsidise with taxes. Sell fish in Bargain Booze to save the pubs. Youngsters like jobs - but that is ironic. The 2010 Labour Chancellor raised taxes for cider last month.'

Is this all from the next Tory manifesto?

And what Lom's post tells is that Splott Parker is right, Drinking alone, at home, is really bad.

[splott parker]

And what Lom's post tells is that Splott Parker is right, Drinking alone, at home, is really bad.

I rest my case

[North Cardiff Blue]

I would say a good 20-25% of people my age I know semi-regularly use coke. It is everywhere.

Must be an age thing, I know one, it seems prevalent among the young though.

[North Cardiff Blue]

It's funny because the new style real ale places aimed at the middle classes ie Pontcanna seemed to be popping up and doing OK even though they are pricey.

They have become trendy, they have them in Rhiwbina and Radyr, but are well overpriced and quite busy, I think most go in and just have one or two though.