And If Welsh Labour are as shit as the right wing blowhards say on here, then why is it that the Tories can't get a sniff? It's because the majority of Wales know that they're rats, and people don't forget the damage caused by Thatcher in her attack on workers. Welsh Labour aren't great, although Drakeford is an honest and decent bloke. It's just that the Tories are considered scum in most parts of Wales-Good.