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  1. #1

    Re: Diseases from history books making a return.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doucas View Post
    Could you imagine when the internet was created, a tool that would give humanity access to the best scientific information available it would lead to people actually getting dumber.

    Flat Earths, anti vaxxers, climate change denialists. All would fail GCSE Science.
    In December China had it's coldest weather on record, 'twas all over BBC News. Oh, hang on.................

  2. #2

    Re: Diseases from history books making a return.

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    In December China had it's coldest weather on record, 'twas all over BBC News. Oh, hang on.................
    and someone ate a cheese burger in the USA so famine can't be a thing.

    For about the 50th time on this forum. For those who deny man mad climate change is a thing, what is the physical process scientists say is causing it, and what about that process do you disagree with.

    None of you can answer it, you will insult, deflect, change the subject, say you know the answer but won't tell me. Basically you'll say anything other than answering the question.

  3. #3

    Re: Diseases from history books making a return.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doucas View Post
    and someone ate a cheese burger in the USA so famine can't be a thing.

    For about the 50th time on this forum. For those who deny man mad climate change is a thing, what is the physical process scientists say is causing it, and what about that process do you disagree with.

    None of you can answer it, you will insult, deflect, change the subject, say you know the answer but won't tell me. Basically you'll say anything other than answering the question.
    Right, I'll be brief as I can. 'Man made Climate Change' is one of many manifestations of a paranoid society - the need to worry, fret, have angst etc. They used to call it middle class guilt. It's why the richer west is tearing itself to bits over green issues, forcing decent hard working people to drive expensive electric cars, useless heating systems, inflated utility charges etc. As for CC, it's never, ever remained constant, not even within a 50 year period, the recent example of record cold weather is an example, but watch for example, the BBC, SKY, etc., nearly every single weather report or forecast or news item always contains a reference to climate change - wind, drought, high, low temps, frogs, whatever. Most used to lap it up. Now it's probably fewer than 50% despite it being preached non-stop wherever you are. Even western governments are beginning shift their views as they realise people are beginning to question their religious-like mantra..

  4. #4

    Re: Diseases from history books making a return.

    ...hang on

    Bigger one on the way!
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  5. #5

    Re: Diseases from history books making a return.

    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
    ...hang on

    Bigger one on the way!
    It's already happened, it's called Twitter. One persons opinion is taken as fact by some, with little evidence and not taking into account said persons extreme beliefs, that doesn't seem to come into play when the 'facts' agree with a persons distorted views. One thing i'm certain about, i don't really know anything. I read, try to keep up to date and i try to have an open mind. It seems to me that so many people struggle with that, And if one person on Twitter regurgitates some tripe that reinforces the prejudices, frustrations, despair, anger, hatred etc who (it seems to me) is all of those things anyway, then iwhatever the're saying must be true. It's a sad state of affairs when blowhards on all sides of the political spectrum are taken so seriously. Emotive, Hateful, desperate.

  6. #6

    Re: Diseases from history books making a return.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    It's already happened, it's called Twitter. One persons opinion is taken as fact by some, with little evidence and not taking into account said persons extreme beliefs, that doesn't seem to come into play when the 'facts' agree with a persons distorted views. One thing i'm certain about, i don't really know anything. I read, try to keep up to date and i try to have an open mind. It seems to me that so many people struggle with that, And if one person on Twitter regurgitates some tripe that reinforces the prejudices, frustrations, despair, anger, hatred etc who (it seems to me) is all of those things anyway, then iwhatever the're saying must be true. It's a sad state of affairs when blowhards on all sides of the political spectrum are taken so seriously. Emotive, Hateful, desperate.
    Lots and lots of hate was aimed at people who questioned the narrative during Covid , even on here people were calling out posters who were of a different opinion to undertake unpaid labour.

    In any other time that kind of thing could be classed as a criminal act and as far as I know nothing was done on here either. Sad times indeed.

    The climate change debate is not as bad yet but is yet another example of pointless rhetoric and arguments.

  7. #7

    Re: Diseases from history books making a return.

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Lots and lots of hate was aimed at people who questioned the narrative during Covid , even on here people were calling out posters who were of a different opinion to undertake unpaid labour.

    In any other time that kind of thing could be classed as a criminal act and as far as I know nothing was done on here either. Sad times indeed.

    The climate change debate is not as bad yet but is yet another example of pointless rhetoric and arguments.
    And that was wrong. I may have thought that having the vaccine was the right thing for me, but i would never put pressure on someone to do something that they don't want to do. What people do with trheir own body is their business, and people have no right to dictate, on both sides.

    The situation with Covid was unique, it's been done to death, but there was obviously going to be panic, hysteria, some of it for the right reasons, some of it not. The media didn't help in my opinion, but that's been the case for years, ever since news became sensationalist and about 'Hits'. The Media put the fear of god into some people, especially the most vulnerable in society. It's the same with Ukraine and whatever else is flavour of the month in the media, full on assault, and when they've exhausted the narrative, it's on to something else.

    That's why (in my opinion) it's our responsibility to stay calm, listen to all arguments, all concerns, even if we don't agree. There's way to much reaction out there, whether on the net or on TV. It doesn't do to get to wrapped up in it all, it'll just **** us up and that'll never do. The truth is usually somewhere in the middle

  8. #8

    Re: Diseases from history books making a return.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    It's already happened, it's called Twitter. One persons opinion is taken as fact by some, with little evidence and not taking into account said persons extreme beliefs, that doesn't seem to come into play when the 'facts' agree with a persons distorted views. One thing i'm certain about, i don't really know anything. I read, try to keep up to date and i try to have an open mind. It seems to me that so many people struggle with that, And if one person on Twitter regurgitates some tripe that reinforces the prejudices, frustrations, despair, anger, hatred etc who (it seems to me) is all of those things anyway, then iwhatever the're saying must be true. It's a sad state of affairs when blowhards on all sides of the political spectrum are taken so seriously. Emotive, Hateful, desperate.
    You're following the wrong people by the looks of things.

  9. #9

    Re: Diseases from history books making a return.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You're following the wrong people by the looks of things.
    I don't follow anyone. I do my best to find things out from people who aren't screaming from rooftops because they have a personal agenda. Then i come to my own conclusions, right or wrong, i'm willing to be educated. Some of the stuff i have seen posted on Here (From Twitter) disgusts me, it's vile. Purporting Hatred and reaction, The fuel for those people who already seem disconnected for whatever reason. It's the Internet version of Graffiti daubed in a Public toilet cubicle.

    If People want their information in few words, inflammatory, Hateful, designed to provoke rather than reveal, then that's a concern. And for good measure, i'm talking about both sides of the shit fest. When people become desperate and they have no answers then some gravitate towards the 'Bully' they wouldn't do so ordinarily, but their desperation leaves them without an option. Same with politics, people get desperate because they're not listened to, cue populism.

    Twitter must have it's uses, but from what i have seen it's infested with Bullies, loud mouths, shit stirrers, who could'nt care a jot about 'The Truth' and the consequences of their words, but only about themselves.

  10. #10

    Re: Diseases from history books making a return.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    It's already happened, it's called Twitter. One persons opinion is taken as fact by some, with little evidence and not taking into account said persons extreme beliefs, that doesn't seem to come into play when the 'facts' agree with a persons distorted views. One thing i'm certain about, i don't really know anything. I read, try to keep up to date and i try to have an open mind. It seems to me that so many people struggle with that, And if one person on Twitter regurgitates some tripe that reinforces the prejudices, frustrations, despair, anger, hatred etc who (it seems to me) is all of those things anyway, then iwhatever the're saying must be true. It's a sad state of affairs when blowhards on all sides of the political spectrum are taken so seriously. Emotive, Hateful, desperate.
    Cracking post.


  11. #11

    Re: Diseases from history books making a return.

    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
    ...hang on

    Bigger one on the way!
    Ooh err, missus!

  12. #12

    Re: Diseases from history books making a return.

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Right, I'll be brief as I can. 'Man made Climate Change' is one of many manifestations of a paranoid society - the need to worry, fret, have angst etc. They used to call it middle class guilt. It's why the richer west is tearing itself to bits over green issues, forcing decent hard working people to drive expensive electric cars, useless heating systems, inflated utility charges etc. As for CC, it's never, ever remained constant, not even within a 50 year period, the recent example of record cold weather is an example, but watch for example, the BBC, SKY, etc., nearly every single weather report or forecast or news item always contains a reference to climate change - wind, drought, high, low temps, frogs, whatever. Most used to lap it up. Now it's probably fewer than 50% despite it being preached non-stop wherever you are. Even western governments are beginning shift their views as they realise people are beginning to question their religious-like mantra..
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  13. #13

    Re: Diseases from history books making a return.

    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
    Are you a cartoonist for the Washington Post ?

  14. #14

    Re: Diseases from history books making a return.

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Are you a cartoonist for the Washington Post ?
    He actually is.

  15. #15

    Re: Diseases from history books making a return.

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Right, I'll be brief as I can. 'Man made Climate Change' is one of many manifestations of a paranoid society - the need to worry, fret, have angst etc. They used to call it middle class guilt. It's why the richer west is tearing itself to bits over green issues, forcing decent hard working people to drive expensive electric cars, useless heating systems, inflated utility charges etc. As for CC, it's never, ever remained constant, not even within a 50 year period, the recent example of record cold weather is an example, but watch for example, the BBC, SKY, etc., nearly every single weather report or forecast or news item always contains a reference to climate change - wind, drought, high, low temps, frogs, whatever. Most used to lap it up. Now it's probably fewer than 50% despite it being preached non-stop wherever you are. Even western governments are beginning shift their views as they realise people are beginning to question their religious-like mantra..
    You didn't answer my question.

    What is the physical process that scientists say is causing man made climate change and what about that physical process to you disagree with?

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