+ Visit Cardiff FC for Latest News, Transfer Gossip, Fixtures and Match Results
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 47

Thread: Daily Mail slagging us off

  1. #1

    Daily Mail slagging us off

    Grubby, classless, the five-year legal battle over plane crash victim Emiliano Sala takes us into football's sewers... where players are pawns and chronically inept clubs desperately try to save cash
    By Ian Herbert for MailOnline

    There weren’t many of us in the chilly, oak-panelled coroner’s court when the mother of Emiliano Sala finally got the chance to tell the world about the child she loved and lost.

    Mercedes Taffarel’s statement was read out by the coroner at the inquest into his death that day, yet the small details still broke your heart.

    How she had travelled around the Channel Islands after the plane carrying him crashed, wandering up and down beaches, shouting out his name, hoping he might somehow hear her.

    How her boy, who to her was simply ‘Emi’, had been preparing to learn English and ‘to travel to the most important places in the United Kingdom’, now he had put the doubts out of mind and signed for Cardiff City from Nantes.

    Cardiff had been putting him under a lot of pressure to sign, she said. There had been haggling for cash with Nantes, who were selling him. ‘Emi felt in the middle of that. He felt in some doubt. Those weeks were intense,’ his mother related.

    It was after clearing his flat and saying his goodbyes in France that the young Argentine died — five years ago this week — in the death trap of an aircraft which was carrying him to South Wales. Carbon monoxide from the aircraft’s faulty exhaust system seeped into the cabin.

    It was a case which took us down into the sewers of football, reminding us of the pawns players become as chronically inept clubs desperately seek solutions in the January transfer window.

    And in the endless aftermath there has been a tawdry epilogue to the tragedy, a grubby and classless wrangling over whether Cardiff had technically signed Sala and were therefore liable to pay the £15million transfer fee.

    They categorically were — and don’t just take my word for it. Read the court papers. There are reams of them, because the whole money-grabbing affair was dragged through the FIFA Players’

    Status Committee, the Court of Arbitration for Sport and the Swiss Federal Court, all of whom concur on this point.

    Examine the images of Sala signing for Cardiff, published on the club’s website. There is a silver pen in his hand.

    But the club are still not having it. They are now taking the case to the Nantes Commercial Court, where they will argue Nantes are financially liable for the £15m that they were paid on Fifa’s orders.

    This, their lawyers say, is because the one-time British agent Willie McKay, who worked for the selling club as a fixer and intermediary, was involved in setting up the flight.

    Cardiff were more than happy to allow McKay to fly their manager Neil Warnock to Nantes on two occasions to see Sala play. They were happy to allow McKay to fly Sala and his agent to Cardiff, first to view the club, then to sign. They were even happy to let McKay organise transport from a local airport, near Barry, to Ninian Park. It was only when the plane crashed that McKay’s attachment to Nantes became a factor in their resistance to paying the fee.

    Their lawyers’ latest bid to recoup that sum, and an additional £60m from Nantes plus interest for lost revenue because of the club’s Premier League relegation that year, involves using statistics specialists to establish whether, on the balance of probability, Sala would have scored enough goals to keep them in the top flight.

    Their conclusion — you’ve guessed it — is that he might very well have done. He scored a goal every three games for Nantes in Ligue 1, you see, and a goal every two matches for Union Sportive Orleans, in the French third tier, and for Niort in the French second tier.

    Cardiff’s lawyers are expected to lay all this out before three judges next month. It hardly bears imagining how the family will feel about the professional merits of the boy they lost becoming a matter of intellectual sparring in a courtroom.

    That family could not have remotely imagined what a panoply of court cases, claims and counter-claims would flow after receiving a 6am call on a fateful Monday morning, five years ago, informing them that the plane had disappeared off the radar.

    Just once in the entire, interminable legal process have there been a few crumbs of comfort for them to take and that was in that inquest room at Bournemouth.

    The coroner, Rachael Griffin, could not have done more to afford the family a kindness. She slowed the inquest’s witnesses down to a pace which allowed a Spanish translator, in court with Sala’s brother Dario, to relate the evidence to him.

    She helped Dario select an image of his brother to present to the inquest jury, after a suitcase containing one the family had chosen did not materialise when they landed from Argentina.

    During a break in one of those long days of evidence, I happened to encounter Dario in a corridor. There was no conversation as such. He seemed to speak no English. There were lawyers around. It was to fill a momentary silence, more than anything, that I asked if he felt the inquest might be the end of it, the end of the headlines, the end of the line. The look on his face seemed to say ‘yes’.

    Little did he know. Five years on and still the cheap haggling for cash goes on.

  2. #2

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    It's only fair, the way we slag that rag off.

  3. #3
    International
    Join Date
    Jan 2022
    Location
    North Cardiff ha ha
    Posts
    5,328

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    Terrible one-sided nonsense, he knows nothing about it.

  4. #4

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    Quote Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
    Grubby, classless, the five-year legal battle over plane crash victim Emiliano Sala takes us into football's sewers... where players are pawns and chronically inept clubs desperately try to save cash
    By Ian Herbert for MailOnline

    There weren’t many of us in the chilly, oak-panelled coroner’s court when the mother of Emiliano Sala finally got the chance to tell the world about the child she loved and lost.

    Mercedes Taffarel’s statement was read out by the coroner at the inquest into his death that day, yet the small details still broke your heart.

    How she had travelled around the Channel Islands after the plane carrying him crashed, wandering up and down beaches, shouting out his name, hoping he might somehow hear her.

    How her boy, who to her was simply ‘Emi’, had been preparing to learn English and ‘to travel to the most important places in the United Kingdom’, now he had put the doubts out of mind and signed for Cardiff City from Nantes.

    Cardiff had been putting him under a lot of pressure to sign, she said. There had been haggling for cash with Nantes, who were selling him. ‘Emi felt in the middle of that. He felt in some doubt. Those weeks were intense,’ his mother related.

    It was after clearing his flat and saying his goodbyes in France that the young Argentine died — five years ago this week — in the death trap of an aircraft which was carrying him to South Wales. Carbon monoxide from the aircraft’s faulty exhaust system seeped into the cabin.

    It was a case which took us down into the sewers of football, reminding us of the pawns players become as chronically inept clubs desperately seek solutions in the January transfer window.

    And in the endless aftermath there has been a tawdry epilogue to the tragedy, a grubby and classless wrangling over whether Cardiff had technically signed Sala and were therefore liable to pay the £15million transfer fee.

    They categorically were — and don’t just take my word for it. Read the court papers. There are reams of them, because the whole money-grabbing affair was dragged through the FIFA Players’

    Status Committee, the Court of Arbitration for Sport and the Swiss Federal Court, all of whom concur on this point.

    Examine the images of Sala signing for Cardiff, published on the club’s website. There is a silver pen in his hand.

    But the club are still not having it. They are now taking the case to the Nantes Commercial Court, where they will argue Nantes are financially liable for the £15m that they were paid on Fifa’s orders.

    This, their lawyers say, is because the one-time British agent Willie McKay, who worked for the selling club as a fixer and intermediary, was involved in setting up the flight.

    Cardiff were more than happy to allow McKay to fly their manager Neil Warnock to Nantes on two occasions to see Sala play. They were happy to allow McKay to fly Sala and his agent to Cardiff, first to view the club, then to sign. They were even happy to let McKay organise transport from a local airport, near Barry, to Ninian Park. It was only when the plane crashed that McKay’s attachment to Nantes became a factor in their resistance to paying the fee.

    Their lawyers’ latest bid to recoup that sum, and an additional £60m from Nantes plus interest for lost revenue because of the club’s Premier League relegation that year, involves using statistics specialists to establish whether, on the balance of probability, Sala would have scored enough goals to keep them in the top flight.

    Their conclusion — you’ve guessed it — is that he might very well have done. He scored a goal every three games for Nantes in Ligue 1, you see, and a goal every two matches for Union Sportive Orleans, in the French third tier, and for Niort in the French second tier.

    Cardiff’s lawyers are expected to lay all this out before three judges next month. It hardly bears imagining how the family will feel about the professional merits of the boy they lost becoming a matter of intellectual sparring in a courtroom.

    That family could not have remotely imagined what a panoply of court cases, claims and counter-claims would flow after receiving a 6am call on a fateful Monday morning, five years ago, informing them that the plane had disappeared off the radar.

    Just once in the entire, interminable legal process have there been a few crumbs of comfort for them to take and that was in that inquest room at Bournemouth.

    The coroner, Rachael Griffin, could not have done more to afford the family a kindness. She slowed the inquest’s witnesses down to a pace which allowed a Spanish translator, in court with Sala’s brother Dario, to relate the evidence to him.

    She helped Dario select an image of his brother to present to the inquest jury, after a suitcase containing one the family had chosen did not materialise when they landed from Argentina.

    During a break in one of those long days of evidence, I happened to encounter Dario in a corridor. There was no conversation as such. He seemed to speak no English. There were lawyers around. It was to fill a momentary silence, more than anything, that I asked if he felt the inquest might be the end of it, the end of the headlines, the end of the line. The look on his face seemed to say ‘yes’.

    Little did he know. Five years on and still the cheap haggling for cash goes on.
    Standard reporting from The Mail.

    I'm amazed that anyone even reads it.

  5. #5

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    What a load of bollox but then it is the lame steam media.

  6. #6

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    Ironic that the first two words in an article from someone on the mail payroll are “grubby” and “classless”

  7. #7

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    So if Mr Herbert (at least the name fits) thought he was owed £15 million +, he wouldn’t go after it

    What a load of drivel

  8. #8

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    I think the fact the author thinks Emiliano was on his way to Ninian Park shows the amount of research and journalistic care that has gone into this article.

  9. #9

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    Quote Originally Posted by superfeathers View Post
    Ironic that the first two words in an article from someone on the mail payroll are “grubby” and “classless”
    Just read the article and was goi g to post exactly the same thing you did.

  10. #10

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Just read the article and was goi g to post exactly the same thing you did.
    Considering the current claims against Nantes and their owners it seems like a one sided piece of shite really

    Wonder if the club make efforts to contact the mail and ask for balance to be made in the article considering the need to maintain our "reputation" to support the case that is ongoing against Nantes etc.

  11. #11

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    It's not all wrong, our cosying up to McKay until it didn't suit us is a bit gross.

    The article of course lacks all balance and that's intended.

  12. #12

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    If I just lost 15 million - I would be suing anyone and everyone involved.
    Reads like a sponsored post to get clicks (which it has done). Where anniversaries of deaths pop up on an editors screen - and they decide to write an article on it.

    Just surprised anyone on here actually visited the site and read the article - as by doing so the DM have money - their advertising model is based on impressions. So every time anyone visits the site - the DM display and advert and charge the advertiser accordingly.

  13. #13

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    Just surprised anyone on here actually visited the site and read the article - as by doing so the DM have money - their advertising model is based on impressions. So every time anyone visits the site - the DM display and advert and charge the advertiser accordingly.
    Well, I went into it once then deliberately posted the text rather than the link so no-one on here clicked on it.

  14. #14

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    I wonder if Mr Herbert contacted the club when undertaking his research, iot get a balanced article.

  15. #15

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    Quote Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
    Well, I went into it once then deliberately posted the text rather than the link so no-one on here clicked on it.
    Thanks for doing that. I make a habit of not clicking on links to the Daily Mail.

    I remember when the Mail was a respectable (albeit Tory) broadsheet newspaper.

  16. #16

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    Thanks for doing that. I make a habit of not clicking on links to the Daily Mail.

    I remember when the Mail was a respectable (albeit Tory) broadsheet newspaper.
    I remember reading once that the mail online (uk and us) editions have the highest levels of readership.
    Not down to content per se but they way the news / show biz are styled on either side of the page etc

  17. #17
    First Team light up the darkness's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Ho Chi Minh City/Radyr
    Posts
    2,670

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Just read the article and was goi g to post exactly the same thing you did.

    I agree but on a completely different note. I recall you mentioner that you attended Canton High school /Cantonian when younger.
    You may be interested to know the school buildings have, relatively recently, been demolished and a new school building is in process.

  18. #18

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    Quote Originally Posted by light up the darkness View Post
    I agree but on a completely different note. I recall you mentioner that you attended Canton High school /Cantonian when younger.
    You may be interested to know the school buildings have, relatively recently, been demolished and a new school building is in process.
    Both of them? Maybe time for a midweek drive down to Fairwater in the next fortnight or so to have a look. I take it the new buildings will be on the same sites?

  19. #19

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    It's not all wrong, our cosying up to McKay until it didn't suit us is a bit gross.

    The article of course lacks all balance and that's intended.
    I doubt any club was as chummy with McKay as CCFC. His sons were on our books when they clearly weren’t up to the level.

    So I’d be a bit careful about dragging him through the mud personally

  20. #20

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    The article of course lacks all balance and that's intended.
    That's astounding for a newspaper whose very core principle is balanced reporting.

  21. #21

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    Thanks for doing that. I make a habit of not clicking on links to the Daily Mail.

    I remember when the Mail was a respectable (albeit Tory) broadsheet newspaper.
    Really ?

    Is that before or after they sided with the nazi government in Germany?

  22. #22

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    Ian Herbert is a Wrexham lad which may account for why his account is so unbalanced.

  23. #23

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    Quote Originally Posted by Moodybluebird View Post
    Ian Herbert is a Wrexham lad which may account for why his account is so unbalanced.
    I was thinking the same..

  24. #24

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    Quote Originally Posted by EastbourneBlue View Post
    I doubt any club was as chummy with McKay as CCFC. His sons were on our books when they clearly weren’t up to the level.

    So I’d be a bit careful about dragging him through the mud personally
    We’re the club chummy with McKay or did someone else’s chumminess with him drag the club into that position?

  25. #25

    Re: Daily Mail slagging us off

    Quote Originally Posted by Moodybluebird View Post
    Ian Herbert is a Wrexham lad which may account for why his account is so unbalanced.
    He first worked on the Liverpool Echo before moving to the Daily Mail. In the past he's written similar one sided articles about Man City and Newcastle amongst others.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •