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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    A large proportion of residents in Cardiff won't have lawns

    People living in exclusive areas complaining that it costs them 30 quid a year to have their grass cuttings taken away is laughable really
    When all waste was put in a single bin no-one complained then about paying the same amount, whether they had a lawn or not?
    Should I also pay to have a separate hygiene waste collection?

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    2 weeks into the new recycling regime here and I absolutely hate it.

    the red and blue containers don't close properly so fill up with water and will definitely be attacked by the magpies in our street.
    don't have room for separate bins in the house either, it's a nightmare.

    also heard a rumour that last week they ended up chucking the red and blue bags into the same rubbish lorry anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    2 weeks into the new recycling regime here and I absolutely hate it.

    the red and blue containers don't close properly so fill up with water and will definitely be attacked by the magpies in our street.
    don't have room for separate bins in the house either, it's a nightmare.

    also heard a rumour that last week they ended up chucking the red and blue bags into the same rubbish lorry anyway.
    Agreed about splitting them in the house, I take them into the garden in the green bags still and split them there so will use the seem number of green bags and throw them away.

    You can't put them back in your house either, my dog and others p!ss on them as a scent marking thing, they'll stink in no time, could think hession bags are good for recycling rubbish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    2 weeks into the new recycling regime here and I absolutely hate it.

    the red and blue containers don't close properly so fill up with water and will definitely be attacked by the magpies in our street.
    don't have room for separate bins in the house either, it's a nightmare.

    also heard a rumour that last week they ended up chucking the red and blue bags into the same rubbish lorry anyway.
    Mentioned before I think, but my son lives in Herts. He has 3 large bins [same size as our green ones.] One for gen waste, one for general recycling, and one for garden waste. They're all collected every week, 52 weeks a year. He can also visit the local recycling depot as many times as he wants without the need to book. Worlds away from Senydd/Drakeford politics..

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    Re: Cardiff - Changes to your recycling

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Mentioned before I think, but my son lives in Herts. He has 3 large bins [same size as our green ones.] One for gen waste, one for general recycling, and one for garden waste. They're all collected every week, 52 weeks a year. He can also visit the local recycling depot as many times as he wants without the need to book. Worlds away from Senydd/Drakeford politics..
    I doubt it is anything to do with 'Senydd/Drakeford politics'.

    It is almost certainly about Council funding levels.

    True there is a degree of autonomy in the nations outside England, that there will always be some poor decisions and some inefficiency, and at the margins it can be about funding choices (Councils choosing to pay for a few 20 mph road signs where the WAG has enabled them rather than a few more plastic bins) but it is the same story across most of the UK - whether England, Scotland, Northern Ireland or Wales.

    Since 2010 there has been a massive and continuing financial squeeze on Councils whilst demand from an ageing population grows.

    Hertfordshire may be the exception that proves the rule - but most in the face of central government funding cuts have stopped providing most discretionary services, have maxed out on Council Tax rates, have watched business rate income drop (much more so in poorer Labour towns and cities than wealthier Tory shires), have started issuing section 114 notices (8 so far both Tory and Labour - and another 100+ council warning they are on the brink) and have sold every remaining asset.

    Some councils are now little more than adult social care and emergency housing providers - and even there they are failing as demand goes up and revenues go down.

    In the face of that it is no surprise that bin collection services across the UK have been hit year on year.

    I don't see the sense in using bags (I have used these in the Vale and in Cornwall for a short time and they are a false economy) but otherwise Councils are forced to reduce waste collection services alongside everything else to balance their books.

    We have four hard plastic wheelie bins in Sheffield. The frequency of collection is half of what it was in 2010. We have a big black bin for general waste collected every 2 weeks; a big brown bin for glass/cans/plastics collected every 4 weeks; a small blue bin for paper and card collected every 4 weeks and a big green bin for garden waste (for an annual fee) collected every 2 weeks during the 7-8 month growing season. Apart from the green bin (unchanged) the others have gone from 1/2 week collections to 2/4 weeks.

    For waste collection (Dumpit) sites there is no need to book for domestic disposal - booking needed for big vans and traillers.

    All of waste disposal was 'outsourced' to Veolia in 2001 when the Lib Dems were in control (35 year contract that has been very rocky over the years but still in place).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    I doubt it is anything to do with 'Senydd/Drakeford politics'.

    It is almost certainly about Council funding levels.

    True there is a degree of autonomy in the nations outside England, that there will always be some poor decisions and some inefficiency, and at the margins it can be about funding choices (Councils choosing to pay for a few 20 mph road signs where the WAG has enabled them rather than a few more plastic bins) but it is the same story across most of the UK - whether England, Scotland, Northern Ireland or Wales.

    Since 2010 there has been a massive and continuing financial squeeze on Councils whilst demand from an ageing population grows.

    Hertfordshire may be the exception that proves the rule - but most in the face of central government funding cuts have stopped providing most discretionary services, have maxed out on Council Tax rates, have watched business rate income drop (much more so in poorer Labour towns and cities than wealthier Tory shires), have started issuing section 114 notices (8 so far both Tory and Labour - and another 100+ council warning they are on the brink) and have sold every remaining asset.

    Some councils are now little more than adult social care and emergency housing providers - and even there they are failing as demand goes up and revenues go down.

    In the face of that it is no surprise that bin collection services across the UK have been hit year on year.

    I don't see the sense in using bags (I have used these in the Vale and in Cornwall for a short time and they are a false economy) but otherwise Councils are forced to reduce waste collection services alongside everything else to balance their books.

    We have four hard plastic wheelie bins in Sheffield. The frequency of collection is half of what it was in 2010. We have a big black bin for general waste collected every 2 weeks; a big brown bin for glass/cans/plastics collected every 4 weeks; a small blue bin for paper and card collected every 4 weeks and a big green bin for garden waste (for an annual fee) collected every 2 weeks during the 7-8 month growing season. Apart from the green bin (unchanged) the others have gone from 1/2 week collections to 2/4 weeks.

    For waste collection (Dumpit) sites there is no need to book for domestic disposal - booking needed for big vans and traillers.

    All of waste disposal was 'outsourced' to Veolia in 2001 when the Lib Dems were in control (35 year contract that has been very rocky over the years but still in place).
    No, I'm sure it's down to the council reducing costs, but it's certainly spun in their leaflet and associated website as purely environmental : https://myrecyclingwales.org.uk/

    Having browsed through it I have to admit I'm none the wiser - all a bit vague and opaque.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Central government cuts .....I said cuts but could have said something else ....means that green waste is the first to be charged for......it could be argued you are lucky to have a lawn and should take it to the tip yourself anyway in these hard times
    It could be argued that if you had a lawn and no car you would be stuffed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maurice Swan View Post
    Like many others....should be on the Alternate Forum board.....not cluttering this one up.
    How long have you been on this board Maurice? I did mention this the other day, but don't you remember the golden era for this board back in the early 2000's when it was just a single forum and a pot pourri of all sorts of posts, football,music, politics,films etc,etc.

    No- one cared less and it was in my view a much better board.

    These days people moan and grizzle about any non football stuff on here.

    More's the pity.

    I can understand a separate politics board at election times but at any other time it's not needed in my view.

    The idea of an Alternative forum has always been BS in my view

    But Mike doesn't seem to listen to this view these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Crappy bags are flying around the streets it's a shambles,m why the hell didn't they make three could plastic mini bins like the glass bottle bins?

    They are idiots every single thing they do is utter sh!t !
    I concur 🙂

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    We had the new bags collected last week - "on the same day as normal" except that it was postponed at about 9pm on that day. So all these bags out in the street all day for no reason. This week it should be food bin, black bin, bottle bin, red bag and blue bag.
    What could go wrongThese bags are useless. I thought they'd be rainproof, but all they've got is a couple of velcro patches on the front corners v- and handle at the side so that when you pick them up, it exposes the paper (and plastic) to the elements. Duh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    We had the new bags collected last week - "on the same day as normal" except that it was postponed at about 9pm on that day. So all these bags out in the street all day for no reason. This week it should be food bin, black bin, bottle bin, red bag and blue bag.
    What could go wrongThese bags are useless. I thought they'd be rainproof, but all they've got is a couple of velcro patches on the front corners v- and handle at the side so that when you pick them up, it exposes the paper (and plastic) to the elements. Duh!
    Today was collection day - except it isn't!
    As I suspected, all the new recycling has been postponed until tomorrow (at least)
    I have heard unconfirmed news that the council doesn't yet have enough of the new lorries that keep the different materials separate - so in some cases, your carefully separated recycling wase is being dumped into old lorries so it is mixed up again!

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    This thread seems to have gone a tad off-topic, hasn't it?!

    Back to collections -

    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    Today was collection day - except it isn't!
    As I suspected, all the new recycling has been postponed until tomorrow (at least)
    I have heard unconfirmed news that the council doesn't yet have enough of the new lorries that keep the different materials separate - so in some cases, your carefully separated recycling wase is being dumped into old lorries so it is mixed up again!
    Well, the glass caddy was emptied early this morning, but the red and blue bags for plastic and paper is still sitting there.
    Checking the app, as I suspected, they've postponed again! Until tomorrow...maybe.

    Pissup in a brewery comes to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    This thread seems to have gone a tad off-topic, hasn't it?!

    Back to collections -


    Well, the glass caddy was emptied early this morning, but the red and blue bags for plastic and paper is still sitting there.
    Checking the app, as I suspected, they've postponed again! Until tomorrow...maybe.

    Pissup in a brewery comes to mind.
    ...And the bag collection has been postponed AGAIN!

    Tossers

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    Utter bollocks as far as I'm concerned. I'm going to be using the glass caddy and recycling metal. But the paper and plastic will be going in the bin bags. I live in a mid terrace and there's no way I'm taking dirty wet bags in and out , ruining my carpets in the process.

    As an aside: Whoever wrote the intro to that guidebook deserves to be shot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisp_1927 View Post
    Utter bollocks as far as I'm concerned. I'm going to be using the glass caddy and recycling metal. But the paper and plastic will be going in the bin bags. I live in a mid terrace and there's no way I'm taking dirty wet bags in and out , ruining my carpets in the process.

    As an aside: Whoever wrote the intro to that guidebook deserves to be shot!
    I'm probably going to black bag most of it too

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    Jeez reading you lot on here makes me glad I live in Cafilthy

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    Some councils are now little more than adult social care and emergency housing providers - and even there they are failing as demand goes up and revenues go down.

    So increased immigration for people requiring housing is having a big impact?

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Some councils are now little more than adult social care and emergency housing providers - and even there they are failing as demand goes up and revenues go down.

    So increased immigration for people requiring housing is having a big impact?
    Cardiff Council are moving tenants into hotel accommodation if their current housing is too big - ie a 3 bed house for a couple with 1 child. A 'homeless' non-UK family are then given the council house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Cardiff Council are moving tenants into hotel accommodation if their current housing is too big - ie a 3 bed house for a couple with 1 child. A 'homeless' non-UK family are then given the council house.
    source

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
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    Daddies

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    I met a surveyor who I know,just before Christmas to do a small job for me. He's probably one the most well known in the area, and the Council also call on him frequently to survey their property portfolio. He told me of a couple of council homes that he had recently been asked by the council to survey as they were about to be vacated. In the one, there was an older lady and her daughter. Her granddaughter had recently died. He asked why they were vacating and they said the council were evicting them because they no longer 'needed' 3 bedrooms. They were being moved into hotel accommodation so that a family from Albania with children could move in. The lady and her daughter had lived in their home for over 20 years.

    Than was my source.

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    Re: Cardiff - Changes to your recycling

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Cardiff Council are moving tenants into hotel accommodation if their current housing is too big - ie a 3 bed house for a couple with 1 child. A 'homeless' non-UK family are then given the council house.
    Interesting, there is already a massive housing shortage and they can't build them quickly enough, so what's going to happen if things don't change?

    Who pays for the immigration hotels in Cardiff?

    Is this what my council tax is being used for?

    If so why are homeowners paying for it based on the size of their house and the area they live in and not income tax from people's income?

    Can I opt out and have the bins collected instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Cardiff Council are moving tenants into hotel accommodation if their current housing is too big - ie a 3 bed house for a couple with 1 child. A 'homeless' non-UK family are then given the council house.
    Do you have anything to back this up? As otherwise it looks like anti-immigrant BS.

    Edit: missed your "source" originally, sounds like total gammony made-up bollocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    I met a surveyor who I know,just before Christmas to do a small job for me. He's probably one the most well known in the area, and the Council also call on him frequently to survey their property portfolio. He told me of a couple of council homes that he had recently been asked by the council to survey as they were about to be vacated. In the one, there was an older lady and her daughter. Her granddaughter had recently died. He asked why they were vacating and they said the council were evicting them because they no longer 'needed' 3 bedrooms. They were being moved into hotel accommodation so that a family from Albania with children could move in. The lady and her daughter had lived in their home for over 20 years.

    Than was my source.
    Having too many bedrooms is not a legal reason for evicting any council tenant. An eviction would also need to go through court. Now there is a thing called the bedroom tax which might have made it unaffordable for them to still live there, but as far as an actual eviction, the council would have no legal standing to do so.

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    Looking forward to see how the new recycling scheme goes when it's rolled out in Cathays.

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