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    What I want to know is when and why did something happening consecutively become "on the bounce"? For the first fifty years of my life it was "in a row" or "on the trot", now it's on the bounce and it's driving me mad!

    Also, why can't I say that my team has been playing boring, negative football for about a decade now - it's the truth. Until Russell Slade came along I was very much in the as long as we win I don't care camp, but I'm not any more - modern Cardiff City sides have done that to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    What I want to know is when and why did something happening consecutively become "on the bounce"? For the first fifty years of my life it was "in a row" or "on the trot", now it's on the bounce and it's driving me mad!

    Also, why can't I say that my team has been playing boring, negative football for about a decade now - it's the truth. Until Russell Slade came along I was very much in the as long as we win I don't care camp, but I'm not any more - modern Cardiff City sides have done that to me.
    Just did a bit of investigating, ‘on the bounce’, meaning suddenly or in quick succession was first used in Hardy’s ‘The Mayor of Casterbridge’ in 1886. Although in sport it seems it came into fashion in the 1990s. ‘On the bounce’, ‘On the trot’? Perhaps the City could be coining a new phrase, ‘On the dourness’

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Just did a bit of investigating, ‘on the bounce’, meaning suddenly or in quick succession was first used in Hardy’s ‘The Mayor of Casterbridge’ in 1886. Although in sport it seems it came into fashion in the 1990s. ‘On the bounce’, ‘On the trot’? Perhaps the City could be coining a new phrase, ‘On the dourness’
    So, it's probably been in use for longer than in a row and on the trot. That does surprise me. I associate Jeff Stelling with on the bounce, he was the first person I noticed using the term about twenty years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    What I want to know is when and why did something happening consecutively become "on the bounce"? For the first fifty years of my life it was "in a row" or "on the trot", now it's on the bounce and it's driving me mad!

    Also, why can't I say that my team has been playing boring, negative football for about a decade now - it's the truth. Until Russell Slade came along I was very much in the as long as we win I don't care camp, but I'm not any more - modern Cardiff City sides have done that to me.
    Replying to your second paragraph. Of course you can say that the football is boring & negative. By the same token, others can say we’re on the verge of ‘ManCityness’. The differing views make the board more interesting, however bizarre some posts are. At least they’re about football rather than ‘Dripford’, ‘20 miles an hour’ or ‘Rubbish collection’.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Replying to your second paragraph. Of course you can say that the football is boring & negative. By the same token, others can say we’re on the verge of ‘ManCityness’. The differing views make the board more interesting, however bizarre some posts are. At least they’re about football rather than ‘Dripford’, ‘20 miles an hour’ or ‘Rubbish collection’.
    True. I thought the first half against Stoke was quite good, but, that apart, we've still been boring in our last three games, the only difference being that we've been dull and boring while winning and I appreciate that's enough for some.

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    Not sure what the greatest fib is "£350million a week to spend on the NHS" or "I don't mind losing as long as we play good football"

    Its a results business, We do well our crowds increase, hang around the relegation zone they go down. DJ's team played some amazing stuff in front or 12K but i used to leave so frustrated when we just blew a 2-0 comfy lead than a Bulut's boring mundane 1-0 to the city.

    I think Bulut is a very effective manager, he has taken a squad of by the sounds of it, overly paid lower championship/top L1 players and made them top 10 due to his ability for the team to beat teams of a similar base.

    We have a solid enough platform, just needs to add some (expensive) sparkle in the final third

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    Quote Originally Posted by llan bluebird View Post
    Not sure what the greatest fib is "£350million a week to spend on the NHS" or "I don't mind losing as long as we play good football"

    Its a results business, We do well our crowds increase, hang around the relegation zone they go down. DJ's team played some amazing stuff in front or 12K but i used to leave so frustrated when we just blew a 2-0 comfy lead than a Bulut's boring mundane 1-0 to the city.

    I think Bulut is a very effective manager, he has taken a squad of by the sounds of it, overly paid lower championship/top L1 players and made them top 10 due to his ability for the team to beat teams of a similar base.

    We have a solid enough platform, just needs to add some (expensive) sparkle in the final third
    Good post, Bulut is the best Manager we've had since Warnock the others caused a hell of a lot of damage to the squad, he's done well to turn things around with a transfer embargo and tiny budget.

    Left-back was a real problem, we look better now without Collins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Good post, Bulut is the best Manager we've had since Warnock the others caused a hell of a lot of damage to the squad, he's done well to turn things around with a transfer embargo and tiny budget.

    Left-back was a real problem, we look better now without Collins.
    What tiny budget is that? Our Chairman certainly doesn't think it was tiny, let's see what next year's accounts say before jumping to conclusions. If we managed to get the likes of Ramsey, Grant, Turnbull and Wilson-Esbrand here on a tiny budget then someone on the recruiment side is doing a brilliant job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    What tiny budget is that? Our Chairman certainly doesn't think it was tiny, let's see what next year's accounts say before jumping to conclusions. If we managed to get the likes of Ramsey, Grant, Turnbull and Wilson-Esbrand here on a tiny budget then someone on the recruiment side is doing a brilliant job.
    Nitpicking, it's relative, at least you agree with the rest, he's made a massive improvement and saved us from a Derby-type future and relegation.

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    Perhaps we, who attend every game, visit this messageboard regularly etc are too close. Three or four, what I would call floating fans, infrequent attenders, bought season tickets when we were in the Prem and went in the promotion years etc have said the immortal words to me the last couple of days, “Hey, the City are doing well”. Hard to argue with them after 3 consecutive wins without sitting them down and giving them a lecture on the nitty gritty. These are the people we want back in the ground though to swell attendances, we seem to go regardless, many will go to see a winning team regardless. After the Charlton defeat that caused Malky to be more pragmatic, the crowds turned up, lapping up every 3 points, however earned. There’s different types of fan and I don’t think that’ll ever change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    What tiny budget is that? Our Chairman certainly doesn't think it was tiny, let's see what next year's accounts say before jumping to conclusions. If we managed to get the likes of Ramsey, Grant, Turnbull and Wilson-Esbrand here on a tiny budget then someone on the recruiment side is doing a brilliant job.
    Whatever the budget is it's a tiny fraction of the budget Malky had. He spent around £12m in one season then over £30m the next but was basically scared of his own shadow, had us playing football that made our eyes bleed and yet you wouldn't have a word said against him on here. We had quite a bit of back and forth at the time but you never budged an inch in your admiration for him and his football. How do you feel about that now? I'm certainly not looking for an argument here, I'm interested.

    I'd love to see us playing decent football too, we've talked about this loads over the years in the Academy thread and elsewhere. Thing is though that having bought a season ticket through the 80s and 90s, and when Malky was here, and when Slade was here, and Warnock and mad Mick, I'd feel like a complete hypocrite if I turned round now and said my love for the beautiful game overrides my support for City. If it ever did get like that then I'd just stop going (and coming on here) and find another hobby instead. Being a football fan isn't compulsory, surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Left-back was a real problem, we look better now without Collins.
    I found this quite amusing!

    Last season, Collins played a few games, looked decent, then missed the rest of the season. One of the reasons some fans gave for our struggles was that Collins was injured and some thought we'd signed a top player.

    This season, I don't think many would be disappointed if Collins left at the end of the season!!

    How things can change in football!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I found this quite amusing!

    Last season, Collins played a few games, looked decent, then missed the rest of the season. One of the reasons some fans gave for our struggles was that Collins was injured and some thought we'd signed a top player.

    This season, I don't think many would be disappointed if Collins left at the end of the season!!

    How things can change in football!
    That's true, left back has been a problem for years, Collins came in for that cameo and looked very good winning a few man of the match awards got injured, and we struggled at left back again last season, the injury must have affected him, as he's never looked the same since, and yes ditch him now he's a liability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Good post, Bulut is the best Manager we've had since Warnock the others caused a hell of a lot of damage to the squad, he's done well to turn things around with a transfer embargo and tiny budget.

    Left-back was a real problem, we look better now without Collins.
    SM ended up causing damage to the squad because he went around to manage it. The players he bought were clearly to play his style of football. And that is the issue with the club...we keep getting in different managers who play different football therefore requiring different players... there is still the argument that the board moved too fast to hurt rid of SM considering the amount of new players he brought in.

    Again, an issue that traces back to the club and how its run.

    I'm not anti Bulut to the point ill scream and shout for him to go, he seems a decent bloke and when he's got all his players fit he seems to get more favourable results, its just the way we play for me, im bored of watching an unskilled boring bunch of players, I want to be entertained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    True. I thought the first half against Stoke was quite good, but, that apart, we've still been boring in our last three games, the only difference being that we've been dull and boring while winning and I appreciate that's enough for some.
    Surely it's not dull and boring to be known as "El Lugubroso"?


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    Quote Originally Posted by rich munn View Post
    Surely it's not dull and boring to be known as "El Lugubroso"?


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