FT: SWANSEA CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

[Maurice Swan]

One last word from me...I hope the players take a good long hard look at themselves after that awful performance...

[splott parker]

I take it Bulut won’t be off to Man Utd.

[splott parker]

...and Wales lose 21-24 to Italy (with two very late tries for Wales) to earn the wooden Spoon.....but at least I can see what Gatland is doing in playing the youngsters...one I think who has only played 5 game for Cardiff rugby from the bench.

Bulut now needs to do the same....there is nothing to play for this season...give our youngsters a chance to sink or swim.

Bit of a long shot for Bulut, playing a CRFC novice but, hey ho, let’s give it a go.

[Maurice Swan]

Bit of a long shot for Bulut, playing a CRFC novice but, hey ho, let’s give it a go.

Would he do any worse??

[olderblue]

Bit of a long shot for Bulut, playing a CRFC novice but, hey ho, let’s give it a go.

He might as well have started a novice on the right wing for all the use that Bowler is.
It was like playing with 10 men from the start

Awful footballer, sadly we have too many that either don’t care or don’t want to know.

If Bulut stays, and I’m not that bothered either way atm, we can’t have bottlers like Bowler, Wintle and Turnbull starting in important games

Not that any of them will give a toss, but we really do have some shit houses in our squad

[Vindec]

A truly awful performance but my overriding conclusion is that they wanted it more than us.

[Maurice Swan]

A truly awful performance but my overriding conclusion is that they wanted it more than us.

Yes...and one has to wonder WHY???

[BLUETIT]

Said it once and I’ll say it again, Oli Tanner is no where near being a championship player

[WJ99mobile]

Trying to be impartial here, I agree he was completely out thought by Williams - but you look at who we have in midfield and attack... Wintle, Tanner, Bowler, Meite, and then the injured Etete and Robinson are all absolutely bang average. Our 3 best midfielders have been injured or injury prone all season. Diedhiou and Turnbull only arrived 6 weeks ago. You work with what you have, the players that have featured most prominently wouldn't be picked up by a team pushing for promotion, which we never were, because of the embargo. Simple as that.

I don't expect us to sign like madmen this summer, but we will have more free reign to sign players Bulut actually wants. I do agree tactically he has been exposed a few times this season, but he's also done a number on a few teams.

Not hard to outthink when issues have been the same ones since the start of the season

We must be the most predictable team in the championship

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Not hard to outthink when issues have been the same ones since the start of the season

We must be the most predictable team in the championship

Unpredictable surely

[CopenhagenBlue]

We were shit from the first minute to the 96th minute . They always play like it’s their last ever game and we never respond

I thought today was a mirror imagine of the last game. we didn't show up today, they didn't last time. Last time they most certainly didn't play like it was their last ever game.
That was shit today, very shit. But let's keep it in perspective. 4 wins followed by a defeat. Neither team is going anywhere this year, but they arguably he more to play for, other than the obvious derby bragging rights. That win puts them safe I think whereas before they might have been looking down the table

[Splott-light...]

we just seem to have the misfortune of our bogey side also being one of our local rivals..

i'm not looking into it any deeper than that, after four wins on the bounce prior to this utter collapse in shape there is no other logical explanation.

[Splott-light...]

Said it once and I’ll say it again, Oli Tanner is no where near being a championship player

would you have said that after the first Cardiff/Swansea derby earlier this season..?

[Former Labour leader]

Think we should the game to bed. We've had a decent run and are safely in midtable.
Bulut needs to give the couple of youngsters who have promise a start and quietly ease out those who won't be with us next season.
Not a massive fan of Bulut, he has made a lot of mistakes, perhaps many due to his lack of understanding of the Championship, but we could do far worse than offering him a contract for next year.

[Dave Blue]

Think we should the game to bed. We've had a decent run and are safely in midtable.
Bulut needs to give the couple of youngsters who have promise a start and quietly ease out those who won't be with us next season.
Not a massive fan of Bulut, he has made a lot of mistakes, perhaps many due to his lack of understanding of the Championship, but we could do far worse than offering him a contract for next year.

I’m not sure I’m prepared to be bored out of my mind for 75 minutes each game under Bulut before they kick into gear, usually throwing the last dice because we are behind.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Think we should the game to bed. We've had a decent run and are safely in midtable.
Bulut needs to give the couple of youngsters who have promise a start and quietly ease out those who won't be with us next season.
Not a massive fan of Bulut, he has made a lot of mistakes, perhaps many due to his lack of understanding of the Championship, but we could do far worse than offering him a contract for next year.

Would definitely give him the summer and a season to see how things go

I think he's worked well with most of what he's got but there are some complete duds in the squad

[Father Dougal]

Think we should the game to bed. We've had a decent run and are safely in midtable.
Bulut needs to give the couple of youngsters who have promise a start and quietly ease out those who won't be with us next season.
Not a massive fan of Bulut, he has made a lot of mistakes, perhaps many due to his lack of understanding of the Championship, but we could do far worse than offering him a contract for next year.

Depends I suppose though?

Do we know if sabri was actually offered one or had any discussions.or did he walk or was he pushed with no discussions?

Same with bulut he may feel his stock has risen now so may ask for a much improved deal. Probably not as simple as ordering an extension on same terms and all done.

[ToTaL ITK]

Whats the problem? Don't we normally lose to Swansea.

We've won twice since 2014

[NYCBlue]

Said it once and I’ll say it again, Oli Tanner is no where near being a championship player

Neither is Colwill. Why don't we all just admit it? Same with Rambo. He's done. We need to move on.

[2b2bdoo]

Neither is Colwill. Why don't we all just admit it? Same with Rambo. He's done. We need to move on.

Never rated Colwill as much as others personally. He’s improved massively season thought and really not sure of peoples issue now.

[jon1959]

Neither is Colwill. Why don't we all just admit it? Same with Rambo. He's done. We need to move on.

Why should we all just admit something that is not true?

Colwill is a Championship player. He has been our best player a handful of times this season.

He has weaknesses - but not as many as at the start of the season. He seems unable to perform for 90 + 5 minutes, but again is getting fitter than last season ir the start of this one.

He is not a kid any more, but there is no reason with good coaching and experience he cannot develop into a top Championship player!

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

would you have said that after the first Cardiff/Swansea derby earlier this season..?

Two moments in isolation. We've now had more time to judge him. He's simply not Championship standard.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Neither is Colwill. Why don't we all just admit it? Same with Rambo. He's done. We need to move on.

As Jon says, this is just not true. Ramsey was an absolute joke against WBA away for example.

[poc]

the clickbait rag is back

[Mr Soul '68]

Said it once and I’ll say it again, Oli Tanner is no where near being a championship player

Neither are Wintle (one good game v Ipswich in how long?) nor Etete