Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

[TWGL1]

I wonder how much NASA’s CGI bill is costing the American taxpayer per annum anybody know ?

[Canton Kev]

You keep missing the key elements? The nation of America are already thinking about their decision, and will continue to do so for 6-7 months. So granting them a warning at this juncture makes perfect sense.
Also you are assuming (as usual) that there was nothing significant happening in the 1770's.

Furthermore, I see you and your buddy are not willing to be as honest as NASA, who when they find something using modern science that fits the Biblical account of History, don't immediately deny it, but add it to their report.

You see, you may want to see the Bible and God discredited so that everything else it says about you will somehow go away, but it seems NASA doesn't wish to join you on that journey of denial.

What happened in 1777 that was crucial enough to require 2 eclipses? Plus a year before and year after?

God’s only sending us 1 now and according to you we’re nearly at the final hour.

Also, why now? Why not in 4 months time? Or the day before the election? Or the days when the Republican and Democrat candidates are confirmed?

If the eclipse happened at any of those times you’d be trotting out the exact same set of answers except you’d just be fiddling the symbolic meaning to make it fit with the alternate date.

Given that all this is predetermined and predestined, why has it only come to light a couple of weeks before the solar eclipse happened and the same time it’s entered the public eye? The election has always been scheduled for 2024 and the eclipse has always been occurring on this date. If all the jigsaw pieces are prophesied in a 2000 year old book, why are you only hearing about it now?

And why is it definitely this time? People have prophesied the end days using plagues, wars, floods, famines, etc for centuries. Why were those devout Christians with the word of god in their ear so wrong if it’s all so obvious? They had the same books, prophecies, dates and knowledge you do.

[Gofer Blue]

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And why is it definitely this time? People have prophesied the end days using plagues, wars, floods, famines, etc for centuries. Why were those devout Christians with the word of god in their ear so wrong if it’s all so obvious? They had the same books, prophecies, dates and knowledge you do.[/QUOTE]

Canton Kev - see my post #143 for the answer to that one!

[truthpaste]

[QUOTE=Canton Kev;5503286]What happened in 1777 that was crucial enough to require 2 eclipses? Plus a year before and year after?

God’s only sending us 1 now and according to you we’re nearly at the final hour.

Would you like to review that count of 1?

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[Canton Kev]

Canton Kev - see my post #143 for the answer to that one!

“Nobody knows when it'll happen so if we insist it’s happening and then it doesn’t happen, that’s fine because it’s all part of the plan and it’ll happen the next time we insist it’s happening. Unless it doesn’t then it’ll be the time after that, promise”

Sounds like a cheap cop out.

[Canton Kev]

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What happened in 1777 that was crucial enough to require 2 eclipses? Plus a year before and year after?

God’s only sending us 1 now and according to you we’re nearly at the final hour.

Would you like to review that count of 1?

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Nope. Still looks like 1 eclipse in the year 2024 compared to 2 in 1777.

[truthpaste]

[QUOTE=Canton Kev;5503322]

Nope. Still looks like 1 eclipse in the year 2024 compared to 2 in 1777.

Well if you do some research rather then constantly looking for an escape hatch then you may discover something along the way.
There was a lot of new discoveries happening mainly in the southern hemisphere in the late 1770's, and you may also remember that 1776 was THE founding year for America.

After a number of epic voyages, we read that there was one final Voyage for Captain Cook:
Cook’s last expedition (1776-1779) was a search for a Northwest Passage across northern North America to Asia - he searched from the Pacific Ocean side of the continent. Cook sailed from England on July 12, 1776, on the Resolution. Officers on the ship included George Vancouver and William Bligh (who would later be the captain of the Bounty and have his crew mutiny).

Cook arrived at Capetown, South Africa, on October 18, 1776, and sailed to the Indian Ocean and on to New Zealand (in early 1777), the Cook Islands, and Tonga. Heading for Alaska, Cook sailed to and named the Christmas Islands (arriving on December 25, 1777, hence the name). He then sailed to and named the Sandwich Islands (named for the Earl of Sandwich, one of Cook’s patrons). Cook searched for a Northwest Passage in Alaska, but was unsuccessful. He then returned to the Sandwich Islands.

Cook was killed by a mob on Feb. 14, 1779, on the Sandwich Islands (now called Hawaii).

[stevo]

Even if these solar eclipses are prophetic, what are we to make of them? Something bad will happened, we don’t know what or when. It may or may not happen in the same country as the eclipse. What are we supposed to do with this apparent warning?

[truthpaste]

Even if these solar eclipses are prophetic, what are we to make of them? Something bad will happened, we don’t know what or when. It may or may not happen in the same country as the eclipse. What are we supposed to do with this apparent warning?

That is a decent question, thanks for rising above the usual drone of complaint without consideration.

The earliest records of Eclipse to Key Event (like in Nineveh around 2,700 years ago) asked those who were aware of the warning to repent and turn to God. Of course most english speaking people somehow think repent means to feel regret or sorrow. This is down to a poor translation into the English via Latin many years ago.
In fact it means a complete transformation of thought, attitude and lifestyle, in a life that puts God first, instead of myself.
It also means that once a person has genuinely done this, then God will know them and He will count them as His own.
In turn this then means that whatever the coming disaster/ event may be, that person is right with God and their eternity is secure.

I'll give you a local example:-

In 1900, nobody knew that the bloodiest war in history was less than 15 years away with over 20 million perishing, and 21 million injured - but God did know.

God raised up a guy called Evan Roberts who had been down the mines in Loughor since the age of 12, to help support his family. The church had held lots of tent missions with a view of hitting the ground running as the new century began. Those special meetings had some success but nothing to get excited about.
Then as 1904 came, Evan Roberts began sharing a new direct message from God which challenged people to take God and life & death seriously, they needed to change their ways, ie it was a call to repent.
In 1904 in Wales, 100,000 people joined the churches in just 3 months! This spiritual revival, although it started in Wales, spread throughout England, Scotland and Ireland before arriving in America in 1906, with similar dramatic results.
Looking back, people saw it as God reaping millions into His Kingdom before many millions stepped into eternity during the terrible war that was WW1.

[jeepster]

That is a decent question, thanks for rising above the usual drone of complaint without consideration.

The earliest records of Eclipse to Key Event (like in Nineveh around 2,700 years ago) asked those who were aware of the warning to repent and turn to God. Of course most english speaking people somehow think repent means to feel regret or sorrow. This is down to a poor translation into the English via Latin many years ago.
In fact it means a complete transformation of thought, attitude and lifestyle, in a life that puts God first, instead of myself.
It also means that once a person has genuinely done this, then God will know them and He will count them as His own.
In turn this then means that whatever the coming disaster/ event may be, that person is right with God and their eternity is secure.

I'll give you a local example:-

In 1900, nobody knew that the bloodiest war in history was less than 15 years away with over 20 million perishing, and 21 million injured - but God did know.

God raised up a guy called Evan Roberts who had been down the mines in Loughor since the age of 12, to help support his family. The church had held lots of tent missions with a view of hitting the ground running as the new century began. Those special meetings had some success but nothing to get excited about.
Then as 1904 came, Evan Roberts began sharing a new direct message from God which challenged people to take God and life & death seriously, they needed to change their ways, ie it was a call to repent.
In 1904 in Wales, 100,000 people joined the churches in just 3 months! This spiritual revival, although it started in Wales, spread throughout England, Scotland and Ireland before arriving in America in 1906, with similar dramatic results.
Looking back, people saw it as God reaping millions into His Kingdom before many millions stepped into eternity during the terrible war that was WW1.

So god is happy for millions to join him because of conflict?
Would it not be better for them go out and spread the word?
Another load of crap again.

[cyril evans awaydays]

That is a decent question, thanks for rising above the usual drone of complaint without consideration.

The earliest records of Eclipse to Key Event (like in Nineveh around 2,700 years ago) asked those who were aware of the warning to repent and turn to God. Of course most english speaking people somehow think repent means to feel regret or sorrow. This is down to a poor translation into the English via Latin many years ago.
In fact it means a complete transformation of thought, attitude and lifestyle, in a life that puts God first, instead of myself.
It also means that once a person has genuinely done this, then God will know them and He will count them as His own.
In turn this then means that whatever the coming disaster/ event may be, that person is right with God and their eternity is secure.

I'll give you a local example:-

In 1900, nobody knew that the bloodiest war in history was less than 15 years away with over 20 million perishing, and 21 million injured - but God did know.

God raised up a guy called Evan Roberts who had been down the mines in Loughor since the age of 12, to help support his family. The church had held lots of tent missions with a view of hitting the ground running as the new century began. Those special meetings had some success but nothing to get excited about.
Then as 1904 came, Evan Roberts began sharing a new direct message from God which challenged people to take God and life & death seriously, they needed to change their ways, ie it was a call to repent.
In 1904 in Wales, 100,000 people joined the churches in just 3 months! This spiritual revival, although it started in Wales, spread throughout England, Scotland and Ireland before arriving in America in 1906, with similar dramatic results.
Looking back, people saw it as God reaping millions into His Kingdom before many millions stepped into eternity during the terrible war that was WW1.

How did God repay Evan for all his unstinting efforts? He/she/it was a bit of a bastard if he exhausted him and made him so mentally unstable that he had a breakdown, moved to England to convalesce and became a recluse for the rest of his life. Don't you think?

[lardy]

Early on in this debate (on page 2) the 1999 Eclipse which we all remember was brought up by one of the skeptics among us.
We looked back and saw that a Country that had an East to West pathway of totallity soon suffered a major shaking and the loss of 17,000 lives; this was Turkey. The warning was SIX DAYS.

Prophetically, Solar Eclipses provide a message to the Nations, and Lunar Eclipses more specificially a message to Israel.

So did anything happen to shake the World within a week of the Major Eclipse on 8th April 2024?

Again in just SIX DAYS (just like in 1999) after the Eclipse, we witnessed an EVENT that made headlines in every country across the world; the first ever direct attack from Iran upon Israel. Who were drawn in as the other major player?
Yes it was the eclipse hosting USA, with the UK and other nations already drawn into this dangerous scenario.

So while there may be far more to unfold back home for the USA in 2024, it can't be denied that they together with the rest of the world were given a major heads up for what is an unpresidented and highly volatile situation, not just for them, but the security of the whole world.

So solar eclipses don't only warn of natural events?

They're versatile, aren't they! Although also not very useful if the event could be any sort and anywhere. At least we've got it bang on with 6 days though!

[truthpaste]

So solar eclipses don't only warn of natural events?

They're versatile, aren't they! Although also not very useful if the event could be any sort and anywhere. At least we've got it bang on with 6 days though!

God's ability to see the future isn't limited to one category, such as natural disasters.
The birth of Christ for example was written about by Micah 720 years before the event and named the little town of Bethlehem as the place it would happen. The Dead Sea scrolls have recently been dated and have scientifically confirmed the validity of numerous prophecies being written hundreds of years before the actual events.
Thanks for acknowledging the six days.

The fact is God speaks by various means, but are we listening?

[Doucas]

Flat earthers, man made climate change denialists, anti vaxxers and now eclipses predict disasters.

The scientific illiteracy from a significant percentage of older people on this forum and across the UK would be funny if it wasn't so damaging.

Matt Le Tisser would be proud.

[truthpaste]

Flat earthers, man made climate change denialists, anti vaxxers and now eclipses predict disasters.

The scientific illiteracy from a significant percentage of older people on this forum and across the UK would be funny if it wasn't so damaging.

Matt Le Tisser would be proud.

Yes, you people assume that science (verified science) needs to be thrown out of the window if we decide to listen to the Almighty.

1. Your 'science' still hasn't fathomed the origin of the Universe without intelligent design.
2. The only thing in danger of damage, is the ego's that go with those that think science provides all the big answers.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Yes, you people assume that science (verified science) needs to be thrown out of the window if we decide to listen to the Almighty.

1. Your 'science' still hasn't fathomed the origin of the Universe without intelligent design.
2. The only thing in danger of damage, is the ego's that go with those that think science provides all the big answers.

The modern day religious fanatics, prostrate on their hands and knees at the shrine of the infallible scientist.

[truthpaste]

The modern day religious fanatics, prostrate on their hands and knees at the shrine of the infallible scientist.

If only they understood how everyone without exception is placing their faith in someone.
Part of that misunderstanding is that most people think faith can only mean religion!