A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans

[J R Hartley]

OK what changed then, you don't accept they started us in the right direction, got the confidence of the team up and that gradually faded, or was it a change in style?

I think every team misses their best most creative players when they are out injured, even Man City.

Even you have to admit, it's a contrast in results and goals scored from the start of the season to now?

It is a big problem, because as good as Ramsey is he will play less and less games and is fading fast, so we can't become dependant on him.

You Say O Dowda started us off in the right direction but he played 4 games and we only won 1 of those 4 and lost 2 of them.

Hes a good, solid player but hes not KDB. Lets not over egg the pudding here.

Injuries are part and parcel of any squad. I dont think weve ever become dependant on Ramsey because he got injured so soon and has been out for so long. And lets be honest, you didnt have to be Mystic Meg before the season started to realise that he was never going to play 30+ games this season.

As for what happened. Erol Bulut reverting to safety first, passive, pragmatic football type as warned by journalists who knew him from previous is what happened.

The end of the season and his contract cant come quick enough for me and reading socials it seems many others. The cult has definitely lost some members after Saturdays shit show.

[North Cardiff Blue]

You Say O Dowda started us off in the right direction but he played 4 games and we only won 1 of those 4 and lost 2 of them.

Hes a good, solid player but hes not KDB. Lets not over egg the pudding here.

Injuries are part and parcel of any squad. I dont think weve ever become dependant on Ramsey because he got injured so soon and has been out for so long. And lets be honest, you didnt have to be Mystic Meg before the season started to realise that he was never going to play 30+ games this season.

As for what happened. Erol Bulut reverting to safety first, passive, pragmatic football type as warned by journalists who knew him from previous is what happened.

The end of the season and his contract cant come quick enough for me and reading socials it seems many others. The cult has definitely lost some members after Saturdays shit show.

Fair enough, let's see what happens if they both do come back and if it makes any difference, I think they would improve creativity a lot and maybe Bulut could go back to a more attacking team if he has better attacking players.

I think letting Ugbo go was a big mistake, he was the most natural goal-scoring striker we had, the others miss the target more than they hit it, Jay-Jew is probably the best infornt of goal but he looks like he can't be bothered most of the time.

[North Cardiff Blue]

You love this line of excuse but the stats just dont back up this "we lost our two best players and it all changed" theory (excuse).

Of those 14 games Ramsey played in only the first 6 and O Dowda just 4.

Nice try, Linus.

I would imagine Ramsey will get injured again in the next week or two and maybe even O'Dowda, but let's hope they don't it will be interesting to see if results pick up again if they do come back and play?

[The Lone Gunman]

Who cares if we win every game one nil, George Graham's Arsenal did it very successfully.

Remind me, in what season were Arsenal very successful while winning every game 1-0?

[North Cardiff Blue]

Remind me, in what season were Arsenal very successful while winning every game 1-0?

Well maybe not every game but lots of em!

https://angryofislington.com/2012/10...nal-come-from/

https://www.google.com/search?q=one+...r2TiF2Ahg,st:0

One nil or one hundred nil they are both three points

After last season it's nice to score one and not be a point or two away from the relegation zone.

[The Lone Gunman]

Well maybe not every game but lots of em!

Yes, lots of 'em! Along with 2-0 wins, 3-0 wins, 4-0 wins, stuff like that.

The current list of teams on similar runs to City's tells us all we need to know.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Yes, lots of 'em! Along with 2-0 wins, 3-0 wins, 4-0 wins, stuff like that.

The current list of teams on similar runs to City's tells us all we need to know.

Didn’t they win the title at Anfield by 2 to win the title in the last game of the season. 1 wouldn’t have been enough.

[Dembe]

Who cares if we win every game one nil, George Graham's Arsenal did it very successfully.

Up until 24th October, we scored two or more goals in eleven of the first fourteen games, we scored one goal in the other three games.

Ramsey and O'Dowda were injured, and we carried on for a few games after, then a complete change in how we played, we've kept more clean sheets but have stopped scoring, especially from open play.

Why was that, had teams started to suss us out in addition to losing two of our best players?

How do we get back to playing like that?

The most important point being, that George Graham did it successfully.

It's not like we're chasing 2nd and 3rd place down dropping the odd point, is it.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Remind me, in what season were Arsenal very successful while winning every game 1-0?

I know this one.

[Blooburd]

#BulutFC are out in force in this one!

[G rangetown Blue]

We have not got a decent striker….we knew that.

[North Cardiff Blue]

We have not got a decent striker….we knew that.

Exactly although Ugbo was better than the remainers.

We almost went down last year, lost the three best players, we were in a summer transfer embargo and some of these expect us to be in the top two!

[Pedro de la Rosa]

We have not got a decent striker….we knew that.

Rotherham haven’t got any good players and they’re still more effective at scoring goals from open play than we are

[OurManFlint II]

Rotherham haven’t got any good players and they’re still more effective at scoring goals from open play than we are

They are rock bottom on -47 goal difference, with only 30 goals. Scoring more goals than Cardiff in open play is really working out for them. I'm sure they are loving the football at the New York Stadium.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

They are rock bottom on -47 goal difference, with only 30 goals. Scoring more goals than Cardiff in open play is really working out for them. I'm sure they are loving the football at the New York Stadium.

I'm not suggesting they are enjoying it but don't you think it is a pretty bad indictment of our style of play that we are less effective in possession than the worst team in the last decade in this division (at least).

[OurManFlint II]

I'm not suggesting they are enjoying it but don't you think it is a pretty bad indictment of our style of play that we are less effective in possession than the worst team in the last decade in this division (at least).

Just checked the stats, 1 more goal than us in open play. Is that your weapon of choice?

The football has been bad at times, no doubt, but we've also had some entertaining* games, far more than in the last 2 seasons (even under Neil Harris it was a hard watch). The league table suggest we are currently 11th best, I'd take that given where we've been. I'd rather see NG bang in a free kick or Goutas tower in a header off a corner if it meant winning a game.

Truth is, a win last weekend it would be a very different place here.

*entertaining does not equate quality.

[North Cardiff Blue]

They are rock bottom on -47 goal difference, with only 30 goals. Scoring more goals than Cardiff in open play is really working out for them. I'm sure they are loving the football at the New York Stadium.

Exactly another load of nonsense the wrong type of goals now!

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Bulut out

Fixed it for you

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Fair enough, let's see what happens if they both do come back and if it makes any difference, I think they would improve creativity a lot and maybe Bulut could go back to a more attacking team if he has better attacking players.

I think letting Ugbo go was a big mistake, he was the most natural goal-scoring striker we had, the others miss the target more than they hit it, Jay-Jew is probably the best infornt of goal but he looks like he can't be bothered most of the time.

Ugbo was absolutely horrific here. Not one person was remotely bothered when he left. Now, while players don’t work at certain clubs etc he’s subsequently got 6 in 11 for Wednesday. We have better players than Wednesday. We have better players than lots of sides, that’s why we are 11th. Bulut’s football has shown zero signs of picking up and has zero creativity.

Bulut’s most confusing thing for me is he wants the centre halves and the keeper to play out from the back and then the rest of the team don’t. It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so stupid. Cannot wait to see the back of him. We desperately need a coach. That’s the most important hire we can make. You can have any DoF you want, with managers like Bulut and Morison, players will not improve.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Ugbo was absolutely horrific here. Not one person was remotely bothered when he left. Now, while players don’t work at certain clubs etc he’s subsequently got 6 in 11 for Wednesday. We have better players than Wednesday. We have better players than lots of sides, that’s why we are 11th. Bulut’s football has shown zero signs of picking up and has zero creativity.

Bulut’s most confusing thing for me is he wants the centre halves and the keeper to play out from the back and then the rest of the team don’t. It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so stupid. Cannot wait to see the back of him. We desperately need a coach. That’s the most important hire we can make. You can have any DoF you want, with managers like Bulut and Morison, players will not improve.

Better natural Striker than these lot, at the start he was good, but like the rest of the attacking players faded badly, Shef Wed shows he knows where the net is.

[Dembe]

Better natural Striker than these lot, at the start he was good, but like the rest of the attacking players faded badly, Shef Wed shows he knows where the net is.

Whose fault would that be? Who would you say is responsible for getting a performance out of the players?

[North Cardiff Blue]

Whose fault would that be? Who would you say is responsible for getting a performance out of the players?

Buluts mistake but maybe stats wise Jay-Jew looked like a better option, I think he thought he was getting the Greek/Turkish Striker or Kieffer, and had to move one out to get one in.

Overall I think he's done a good job with the resources available, lets see what he does in the next eight weeks with a few players back and no pressure and then how he can balance the team with a transfer window.

We've been weak on Strikers and left backs for years now!

[Dembe]

Better natural Striker than these lot, at the start he was good, but like the rest of the attacking players faded badly, Shef Wed shows he knows where the net is.

Whose fault would that be? Who would you say is responsible for getting a performance out of the players?

[olderblue]

Exactly although Ugbo was better than the remainers.

We almost went down last year, lost the three best players, we were in a summer transfer embargo and some of these expect us to be in the top two!

I don’t think anyone expected to be in the top two, however 9 off the players on show on Saturday were signed by Bulut unless I’m mistaken?

Most of this season we’re leaving the pub later and later, so when there’s 8 or 9 of you doing that, it can’t be a coincidence.

This season we’ve watched turgid boring teams, set up to defend and not lose

I always thought Bulut would need 2-3 transfer windows to get his team together, but I don’t think that’s the case now!

It’s painful to watch it sometimes, but what was totally unacceptable was to send a team out on Saturday who almost to a man waved the white flag

Then to watch it unfold and still wait until half time to try and change it round, totally inexcusable

Bulut and his boring football will be gone at the end of the season, thankfully

I don’t expect us to win the league, but I do expect that any team walking onto a pitch wearing the shirt be prepared to battle and fight to the end

If there not up for that, then there not worth being here

[North Cardiff Blue]

I don’t think anyone expected to be in the top two, however 9 off the players on show on Saturday were signed by Bulut unless I’m mistaken?

Most of this season we’re leaving the pub later and later, so when there’s 8 or 9 of you doing that, it can’t be a coincidence.

This season we’ve watched turgid boring teams, set up to defend and not lose

I always thought Bulut would need 2-3 transfer windows to get his team together, but I don’t think that’s the case now!

It’s painful to watch it sometimes, but what was totally unacceptable was to send a team out on Saturday who almost to a man waved the white flag

Then to watch it unfold and still wait until half time to try and change it round, totally inexcusable

Bulut and his boring football will be gone at the end of the season, thankfully

I don’t expect us to win the league, but I do expect that any team walking onto a pitch wearing the shirt be prepared to battle and fight to the end

If there not up for that, then there not worth being here

It's been hard to watch more recently bar a few games, but you weren't saying that after 12 games, we need to judge him after a full season.

My main gripe about him leaving is Tan well probably appoint Purse or some other ex-player with no managerial experience, who will want to sell and signed 20 players and we will be back to a relegation battle.