A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans

[William Treseder]

You conjure up a picture of an old fashioned school headmaster, standing in a long gown and mortar board with your bendy cane, waiting to give Mozzer a jolly good thrashing for daring to have a positive opinion when Bulut first took over the reigns. 😁

[splott parker]

You conjure up a picture of an old fashioned school headmaster, standing in a long gown and mortar board with your bendy cane, waiting to give Mozzer a jolly good thrashing for daring to have a positive opinion when Bulut first took over the reigns. 😁

He’d have you in detention for your spelling

[Dembe]

He’d have you in detention for your spelling

Full stop.

[The Lone Gunman]

You conjure up a picture of an old fashioned school headmaster, standing in a long gown and mortar board with your bendy cane, waiting to give Mozzer a jolly good thrashing for daring to have a positive opinion when Bulut first took over the reigns.

Well, here's the thing: as far as this board is concerned, Mozzer has been Bulut's cheerleader-in-chief since the minute he was appointed and back in September, after the victories over Swansea and Coventry, he was bumping old threads while attempting to take the piss out of me for daring to suggest it wasn't clear at that stage what Bulut's preferred style of play of was.

When Bulut was appointed, Mozzer was excited by what he believed was the manager's background in Futsal, although in fact he only played in one Futsal tournment for Turkey right at the end of his playing career when he was in his late-thirties. Nevertheless, the 'Futsal background' line is one Mozzer has repeated several times since.

In June, he boldly predicted we'd see an influx of players from Spain and Portugal as a result of Bulut's alleged Futsal roots, but that obviously didn't happen. He also claimed his 'research' had revealed that Bulut's team would produce "a high-intensity, Futsal style of football like nothing we have ever experienced at Cardiff before..."

By the time we'd got to late-August, he was saying he had believed all along that Bulut would be "looking to play a more expansive game," whatever that meant. In September, he claimed Bulut's preferred style of play involved "flooding the midfield and playing through the midfield," whatever that meant. And he was mockingly asking me if I was getting it yet, although he didn't state what 'it' was.

Before the season had even started, Mozzer was predicting Bulut would be the best Cardiff City manager in 30 years or more. Given his love of Futsal and his bold pre-season claims about Bulut's methods, you'd think he would be annoyed by the tedious rubbish City have been serving up in recent months, especially as it's the polar opposite of how he suggested the team would play. However, on the contrary, Mozzer is still seemingly entrenched in his view that Bulut was a brilliant appointment, which I find more than a little amusing.

[Father Dougal]

Well, here's the thing: as far as this board is concerned, Mozzer has been Bulut's cheerleader-in-chief since the minute he was appointed and back in September, after the victories over Swansea and Coventry, he was bumping old threads while attempting to take the piss out of me for daring to suggest it wasn't clear at that stage what Bulut's preferred style of play of was.

When Bulut was appointed, Mozzer was excited by what he believed was the manager's background in Futsal, although in fact he only played in one Futsal tournment for Turkey right at the end of his playing career when he was in his late-thirties. Nevertheless, the 'Futsal background' line is one Mozzer has repeated several times since.

In June, he boldly predicted we'd see an influx of players from Spain and Portugal as a result of Bulut's alleged Futsal roots, but that obviously didn't happen. He also claimed his 'research' had revealed that Bulut's team would produce "a high-intensity, Futsal style of football like nothing we have ever experienced at Cardiff before..."

By the time we'd got to late-August, he was saying he had believed all along that Bulut would be "looking to play a more expansive game," whatever that meant. In September, he claimed Bulut's preferred style of play involved "flooding the midfield and playing through the midfield," whatever that meant. And he was mockingly asking me if I was getting it yet, although he didn't state what 'it' was.

Before the season had even started, Mozzer was predicting Bulut would be the best Cardiff City manager in 30 years or more. Given his love of Futsal and his bold pre-season claims about Bulut's methods, you'd think he would be annoyed by the tedious rubbish City have been serving up in recent months, especially as it's the polar opposite of how he suggested the team would play. However, on the contrary, Mozzer is still seemingly entrenched in his view that Bulut was a brilliant appointment, which I find more than a little amusing.

Mozzer seems a top guy. However it has been clear for a decade or so he is more interested in futsal. He brings it up at every opportunity. Nothing wrong with that as its his passion and that's cool.

However I do believe it makes it impossible for him to be subjective. Any mention of a futsal connection and he will be saying how brilliant that person will be.

However bad things get he will be blaming something else. If he didn't know about bulut brief futsal connection I'm sure he would see things like everyone else but he is so desperate to be proved right I can't see anyone or anything changing his mind.

[The Lone Gunman]

Mozzer seems a top guy. However it has been clear for a decade or so he is more interested in futsal. He brings it up at every opportunity. Nothing wrong with that as its his passion and that's cool.

However I do believe it makes it impossible for him to be subjective. Any mention of a futsal connection and he will be saying how brilliant that person will be.

However bad things get he will be blaming something else. If he didn't know about bulut brief futsal connection I'm sure he would see things like everyone else but he is so desperate to be proved right I can't see anyone or anything changing his mind.

Spot on.

[olderblue]

You really have a downer on Wintle. Best player on the pitch by a country mile against Ipswich, a team destined for the Prem. You obviously don't like players that cover every inch of the pitch and can pass or cross. Put Ramsey in with him and Siopis and we would have a very decent Championship midfield. Ralls on the other hand appears to get a free ride.

Wintle has one good game in 6, he’s overrated and I doubt any team in the top half of the Championship would have him in there squad.

Tell me when Wintle last broke up play, made incisive forward passes that split the opposition defence?

Cover every inch of ground? Are you pissed already, !!! He’s a ****ing donkey and lacks bottle

You might be happy to see someone robbing a living by masquerading as a footballer, I want to see someone batting and fighting to win the right to play football

Wintle is a absolute tosser and should be no where near the squad never mind the team after playing like a pussy last Saturday

He isn’t fit to wear the shirt

[2b2bdoo]

Wintle has one good game in 6, he’s overrated and I doubt any team in the top half of the Championship would have him in there squad.

Tell me when Wintle last broke up play, made incisive forward passes that split the opposition defence?

Cover every inch of ground? Are you pissed already, !!! He’s a ****ing donkey and lacks bottle

You might be happy to see someone robbing a living by masquerading as a footballer, I want to see someone batting and fighting to win the right to play football

Wintle is a absolute tosser and should be no where near the squad never mind the team after playing like a pussy last Saturday

He isn’t fit to wear the shirt

He fits a very specific role, in a very specific formation. I can imagine he might be fine at Swansea.

Problem for us is he isn’t good enough defensively and doesn’t offer enough going forward. He’s not a bad player, he’s fine as a squad player but we need much better to progress

[olderblue]

He fits a very specific role, in a very specific formation. I can imagine he might be fine at Swansea.

Problem for us is he isn’t good enough defensively and doesn’t offer enough going forward. He’s not a bad player, he’s fine as a squad player but we need much better to progress

I’d rather see Colwill jnr play the last eight games than Wintle
I don’t want to see Bowler playing for us again either, complete Fanny

[2b2bdoo]

I’d rather see Colwill jnr play the last eight games than Wintle
I don’t want to see Bowler playing for us again either, complete Fanny

Colwill should be playing although I don’t see him as a Wintle replacement.

[Blooburd]

Colwill should be playing although I don’t see him as a Wintle replacement.

Id like to see Ralls and Turnbull have a go in midfield together. Turnbull looks uncomfortable upfront with meite-latey.

honestly..the wintle hate is crazy. he was so woeful in the first half of the season and nobody said a word! now he is finally coming good you lot snipe him with no justification. 6 months ago i wouldve been calling for his head right along with you lot! lol

[llan bluebird]

Wintle is a "6" a defensive midfielder in today's parlance, he is not an "8" a box-to-box CM in old money.

Ralls is an "8" and was a very good top end championship "8", but he is not as instantly comfortable with the ball as Wintle, his first instinct is to get the ball forward even if it means giving it away, whereas Wintle is to shuffle it on.

Siopis is a thief, he steals balls but his incisive passing highlight reel is even smaller than him. He is never a 6 in the championship.

So for me its Wintle and two far more attacking players probably Colwill and Turnbull

Wintle and Sio should work in a double pivot but plainly does not

(IMO) Ralls is still our most effective midfielder but father time is catching up but we look better with him and Sio as two traditional CM's with a 10. Playing wintle in that position instead of Ralls hasn't worked. When Wintle looked good, there is a visible gap between him and the two CM's in front of him.

Also with Bulut being into inverted full backs moving into midfield do we even need a "6"?

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Wintle is a "6" a defensive midfielder in today's parlance, he is not an "8" a box-to-box CM in old money.

Ralls is an "8" and was a very good top end championship "8", but he is not as instantly comfortable with the ball as Wintle, his first instinct is to get the ball forward even if it means giving it away, whereas Wintle is to shuffle it on.

Siopis is a thief, he steals balls but his incisive passing highlight reel is even smaller than him. He is never a 6 in the championship.

So for me its Wintle and two far more attacking players probably Colwill and Turnbull

Wintle and Sio should work in a double pivot but plainly does not

(IMO) Ralls is still our most effective midfielder but father time is catching up but we look better with him and Sio as two traditional CM's with a 10. Playing wintle in that position instead of Ralls hasn't worked. When Wintle looked good, there is a visible gap between him and the two CM's in front of him.

Also with Bulut being into inverted full backs moving into midfield do we even need a "6"?

We have not once played well when Bulut does this, not once. Everyone needs a defensive midfielder. Also, 6 gets on my wick. Number 6 is a centre back, a 4 is the defensive midfielder.

Siopis and Wintle is the worst pairing. They offer nothing in possession. Anyway, if Bulut has any sense it should be Colwill, Ashford and Tanner as the 3 behind the striker from now on. Let's see what they're made of.

[Dembe]

Id like to see Ralls and Turnbull have a go in midfield together. Turnbull looks uncomfortable upfront with meite-latey.

honestly..the wintle hate is crazy. he was so woeful in the first half of the season and nobody said a word! now he is finally coming good you lot snipe him with no justification. 6 months ago i wouldve been calling for his head right along with you lot! lol

Ralls Turnbull with Colwill ahead of them.

[Dembe]

People that keep bringing up the form are missing the point, a mid table team will go on good and bad runs in a season. The people that are wanting a new manager, from what I can see, is because of the style of football.

[Alfresco]

Wintle has one good game in 6, he’s overrated and I doubt any team in the top half of the Championship would have him in there squad.

Tell me when Wintle last broke up play, made incisive forward passes that split the opposition defence?

Cover every inch of ground? Are you pissed already, !!! He’s a ****ing donkey and lacks bottle

You might be happy to see someone robbing a living by masquerading as a footballer, I want to see someone batting and fighting to win the right to play football

Wintle is a absolute tosser and should be no where near the squad never mind the team after playing like a pussy last Saturday

He isn’t fit to wear the shirt

Totally agree. He scored against Ipswich with his first venture into their box. He can't defend and can't attack.

[olderblue]

Colwill should be playing although I don’t see him as a Wintle replacement.

Rubin Colwill should be starting every game

My point was that his brother, Colwill junior or jnr as I’ve posted, should be playing the next 8 matches to give him experience and help his confidence and development
We have nothing to lose by putting a couple of youngsters in for the rest of the season

[LA Bluebird]

Bulut might have something to lose if he puts the youngsters in, we are shite and he doesn’t get his contract renewed at the end of the year.

Ultimately this is part of the bigger problem which is continuity and a plan at the club. Bulut might not be a great manager but while he’s managing like his job depends on a few wins, we’re never going to see him be adventurous and give the kids a chance. Bring in new manager and repeat the cycle all over again. Until we’ve got football men at the top it won’t change.

[William Treseder]

He’d have you in detention for your spelling

Which spelling mistakes?

[splott parker]

Which spelling mistakes?

Reigns

[Hilts]

Would you renew Buluts contract TLG or remove him? Im on the fence. But thats more to do with the clowns running the clubs ability to replace him with someone half decent.

Hes got us safe this season but thats mainly by getting us to be a force at set pieces again.

[The Lone Gunman]

Would you renew Buluts contract TLG or remove him?

I'd get rid of him tomorrow. There's absolutely nothing I like about him. I've watched more than enough of his abysmal brand of football and I haven't seen anything yet to suggest it's likely to change significantly.

Initially, I thought Bulut was an intriguing appointment and, although the first couple of home performances against QPR and Sheffield Wednesday were dire, there were some encouraging signs in a few of the away games. But since November the football his side has produced has been consistently terrible. He's implemented a negative, cowardly, tedious style of play and I can't stand it. It's just so boring.

I appreciate I see things differently to a large percentage of City fans as the results matter little to me these days. Above all else, I just want to see the side playing some decent, entertaining football. All the evidence suggests we're not going to get that while Bulut remains in charge. I believe his management style is intrinsically negative and he's out of his depth in the Championship.

[Citizen's Nephew]

I'd get rid of him tomorrow. There's absolutely nothing I like about him. I've watched more than enough of his abysmal brand of football and I haven't seen anything yet to suggest it's likely to change significantly.

Initially, I thought Bulut was an intriguing appointment and, although the first couple of home performances against QPR and Sheffield Wednesday were dire, there were some encouraging signs in a few of the away games. But since November the football his side has produced has been consistently terrible. He's implemented a negative, cowardly, tedious style of play and I can't stand it. It's just so boring.

I appreciate I see things differently to a large percentage of City fans as the results matter little to me these days. Above all else, I just want to see the side playing some decent, entertaining football. All the evidence suggests we're not going to get that while Bulut remains in charge. I believe his management style is intrinsically negative and he's out of his depth in the Championship.

Post of the week! Spot on! 🏆

[llan bluebird]

I'd get rid of him tomorrow. There's absolutely nothing I like about him. I've watched more than enough of his abysmal brand of football and I haven't seen anything yet to suggest it's likely to change significantly.

Initially, I thought Bulut was an intriguing appointment and, although the first couple of home performances against QPR and Sheffield Wednesday were dire, there were some encouraging signs in a few of the away games. But since November the football his side has produced has been consistently terrible. He's implemented a negative, cowardly, tedious style of play and I can't stand it. It's just so boring.

I appreciate I see things differently to a large percentage of City fans as the results matter little to me these days. Above all else, I just want to see the side playing some decent, entertaining football. All the evidence suggests we're not going to get that while Bulut remains in charge. I believe his management style is intrinsically negative and he's out of his depth in the Championship.

I am different from you in results matter and a lot less negative of Bulut although I am indifferent to him. If you told me Steve Cooper is heading back to Ponty over the summer I'd get the bunting out, but it's more likely to be Steve Morison.

It's dire stuff, but where do you think this group would end up with a better manager assuming we end up around 10th~12th ? As I just don't see championship-level players beyond the defense and defensive midfielders.

I believe the championship has caught him out with the depth and quality, and he came to the conclusion in the deepest winter without Ramsey his best chance of point was to shut up shop and hope for a set play and we got punished.

It will be interesting how he approaches Fridays game

[The Lone Gunman]

It's dire stuff, but where do you think this group would end up with a better manager assuming we end up around 10th~12th ? As I just don't see championship-level players beyond the defense and defensive midfielders.

I don't think a different manager would be likely to get this squad to a much higher league position, but I'm 100% certain there are other managers out there who could produce better, more entertaining and progressive football with this set of players. But bear in mind this is very much Bulut's team anyway. He's made no less than fourteen signings since becoming City manager and has awarded four other players extended contracts. Indeed, the starting line-up that so meekly surrendered to Swansea last weekend consisted of nine Bulut signings and two players he's given new contracts to.