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We had 4 wins on the trot
Second behind Leeds in recent games in points tally .....which I am sorry to emphasise is far more important than style of play
A poor display against Swansea yes but .....
4 wins in 5 matches ......
And people want him sacked and a new manager......who ? .....brought in so we can play football that is nice to watch ?
I'll see your 5 matches and raise you the previous 6 before those 5.Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
1 point in 9 with encouraging results like 4-1 drilling by norwich, 3-0 by leeds and 3-1 by plymoth. Not to mention a host of comprehansive 2-0s. Maybe you are right..who needs performances when you get these kind of results!?
The answer is Dave Jones
Mcphail didnt play in the Bristol City or Leeds matches.Eg nobody but nobody could argue mcphail and Whittingham couldn't create when we played our best under dave jones. 6 0 Bristol away. 4 0 Leeds away. 6 0 v Derby a couple of times.
But the intelligent movement in front of them and around them.... Chopra mcormack bothroyd Burke
If mcphail or whitts were in this team who would they be creating for? Etete? Bowler?
Our forward options and Whitts were just a huge threat.
It's not the strikers it's the system. You could put Harland in this system and he would struggle to score goals.
Yes it's not easy now, was fine first 13 games were scoring two goals a game mostly, then we went all defensive, lets go somewhere in between.
For me, this season wasn't just about finishing higher than last season. I felt we underachieved last season partly due to some terrible managers, so finishing a bit higher up the table was to be expected.
I was as much interested in progression in playing style from last season. I haven't seen that. It's hard to argue that we've been better on the field this season. In fact, hadn't it been for our set pieces, we'd be in the bottom 3.
Now, either it's the players' fault again, we have a poor squad that can scrap its way to safety, or the players are better than their showing and their being held back. I believe it is the latter. Our ultra defensive approach is hardly resulting in clean sheets and wins.
Next season will be another build. A load of new players and probably a new manager again. That has to stop somewhere, but it can only stop once there is progress on the pitch.
Turning your nose up at a corner, its the future baby!!
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Footballs top teams around the world use set plays, as its a single data point, thus can help with very specific advantages. Here is one of the best teams currently in the world working on corners (the horror, a set play advantage!!!)
https://www.thisisanfield.com/2024/0...elp-of-google/
Cardiff city are ahead of the curve.
think your on the wrong board trying to explain modern techniques Flint !
thanks for the link very interesting the game is going to the next level that's for sure at elite level over the next few years
Most posters on here don't like DJ, Warnock or Malky, so no one's got a chance
The Millwall game, won by a single goal when a header from a corner somehow found its way into the net, was a modern day classic then?
Yeah because that's what i said! What did you do, sit on your hands and moan?
You must be taking the piss.
No, we're not ahead of the curve. Yes, of course, set pieces can provide extra goals, but not to the total detriment of everything else.
Quick question - do you see our dependency on set pieces, while we are less productive in open play than the last few season's relegation strugglers, as a positive? Really?
No, i see the position in the table as a positive compared to the last 2 seasons. And for what its worth, despite the style being mainly dog sh1te, this season has been more entertaining than the previous 2 as well.
Do you honestly believe that goals from set-piece are bad or anti football or something, i don't get it? You are certainly not one of these real football men, that would laugh if we hired a throw-in coach or retweet Joey Barton, i know that much.
Do a quick poll of other teams fans, pundits, players etc about Cardiff and our style for the last 6 7 season, i bet they come back with "long ball, physical, set plays". Now one guy is taking the brunt as if he single handedly dragged Cardiff's "style" to the dark ages after years of champagne football.
I thought you'd hung your boots up?
Or should I say Excel spreadsheet
That’s a matter of opinion.
Of course, and I've said as much in previous post in this thread i think, also having to extended to entertainment doesn't equal quality.
Is Bulut good enough to take us up? I don’t think so, and therefore watching his appalling football isn’t worth it
It’s just three teams on longer runs now - Sutton United won 3-1 on Saturday.
We've scored about 11 goals from open play in our last 31 games. We scored about 8 (I think) in the first 6 games with Ramsey starting. We must be the worst side going forwards in the country.
Here he is, Futsal Freddie - still an ardent Bulut fan despite the manager’s tactics and favoured style of play being the polar opposite of what he’d imagined (and I use that word deliberately).
Comedy gold.
OK so we are good at scoring from free kicks and corners. So, my logic suggests we need to win to more corners and free kicks, because then we'll score even more goals. To do this, we need to attack sides more and take players on. This suggests we need more creative players. Because they win free kicks. I don't have the figures but Colwill seems to win a lot more free kicks for us than others. So, we can, and indeed should, play more front foot attacking football because not only is it entertaining it will win us the dead ball situations we are good at. What is clear is that playing passive, back foot, football will not help us to win more dead ball opportunities and therefore means we'll score fewer goals. Somebody tell Bulut please.
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