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Turnbull
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If Ramsey was fit , Siopis , Ralls and Wintle and Turnbull would make a good midfield
He gets a dig from some fans because let's be honest the rest of the team are not pulling up trees and Ramsey and Odowda have hardly featured
Am I the only City fan who thinks Siopis is over rated and the sort of player we didn’t need?Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
As for Turnbull, I’d like to see a bit more of him before coming to a definitive opinion on him, but can anyone say that he’s done anything yet to justify his alleged transfer fee of £2 million or even a quarter of that sum?
As for Turnbull, it would be interesting to see him in a more attack minded line up.
There's a family fun day at the stadium on Wednesday between 10am-2pm where the players will be training. My nearly 11-year-old reckons that "defensive training will run between 10:00am and 1:59:59pm; attack training will be in the final second".
No. I think Siopis is vastly overrated by many City fans simply because he runs around a lot. His passing is woeful for a midfielder at this level. His work rate is admirable and his ability to win possession is commendable, but it’s usually a waste of time as he so often gives the ball straight back to the opposition. To say he lacks composure is putting it kindly.
I’ve got no firm opinion on Turnbull. He’s shown very little in his ten appearances so far, but he’s playing under a manager who is ridiculously negative and defensive, so it’s probably not fair to judge him just yet.
In a team so devoid of pace Bulut buys one of the slowest players since Joe Mason. You can see his quality as one of the few players that appears to take the ball no matter how many players are around him. But, with Colwill or Ramsey up there with him, we can forget any serious press.
I think Bulut thought Siopis would be a defensive midfielder but found he doesn't have the time and simply gets overpowered in the championship. Wouldn't be surprised if he moved over the summer. I think he and Ralls work as two sitters but with that, your full backs need to be attacking but ours rarely cross halfway.
In fairness to Sludge, Willie Boland did exactly the same and he was Sludge's hero!
We don't need another hero
Thunderdome !
Against Ipswich Siopis' pass completion rate was 87% [Sofa Score].
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Turnbull has been underwhelming for me, not to say he’s a bad player I just think he’s along the lines of what we already have, like the others he lacks pace and physicality. Maybe under another manager he makes more of an impact, in our current set up I don’t see enough in him to play as a 10 or in the 2 sitting.
As for Siopis he can be very good and equally as terrible. I think the post above is spot on, he’s decent alongside Ralls but alongside Wintle he’s just chasing shadows all game and we lose all shape.
Despite us signing Turnbull and Siopis, midfield is still an area we struggle.
Turnbull is a disappointment if we really paid £2million for him! He has hardly made a huge impression.
Siopsis is like Steve Lynex runs around a lot which impresses the fans but actually contributes very little. Sorry showing my age there..
Thats too far. Lynex was utter shit. Siopsis is a decent player.
I'm undecided on Turnbull. Maybe we could try him in a dual 10 role with Ramsey or Colwill but this manager is never going to do that.
Siopis is a workhorse
Does all the dirty work to enable others to shine
In our case that's supposed to be Ramsey who's out injured and colwill , Tanner and bowler who all need to shape up in my opinion
If siopis or ralls or Wintle mess up it can be curtains whereas the forward runners often get out of jail
Wonderful. What about the rest of the season? Or have my eyes been deceiving me?
Siopis's stats generally make for good reading as a defensive midfielder. He's ranked 4th in terms of passing accuracy and 3rd for tackles won. However, he doesn't rank well for being dribbled past, has made more errors that have led directly to an opponent's shot than anyone else and offers nothing in any creative way.
83.% accurate passes for the 2023-2024 season. [Sofa Score]
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According to who scored, Siopis gives the ball away 6 times a game. He makes 29 accurate passes a game.
I think he’s vastly overrated. He runs around a lot, gets brushed off a lot, gets bullied a lot and gives the ball away a lot. He started off well but he cannot play. He’s nowhere near the standard required of a promotion centre mid. Is he better than Gunnar? Given he’s been dropped for Ralls this season, I can’t see how he’s better than Ralls was in 17/18. People say he’s been brought down to our level, if you put Ampadu in this side, he’d been head and shoulders above everyone else, and given Ampadu is a CM (sometimes CB!) in this division, yes, the comparison is relevant. Or we could compare him to Ndidi, or Downes etc.
Bulut has vastly underestimated how good this league is. It is way more competitive than Turkish football and there is no way we are going to be able to buy our way out of this league worth players as good as Siopis and even Goutas. For a start, they can’t get into a terrible Greece side.
Don’t disagree with that but sometimes you get what you pay for, Ampadu 7m, Ndidi 17m, Downes 12m. The midfield has been poor for some time and despite Turnbull and Siopis coming in we are no better at solving the issue.
We are worse, as they’re clogging up wages and fees that could have been spent on someone else. Turnbull is now 4th choice. Siopis isn’t much better than Ralls or Wintle, he certainly doesn’t solve any problems.
We are in the world we live in, it’s not going to get easier to get out of this league. Siopis was described as a “gamechanger” signing. He is anything but.
Siopis played for Greece last week.
Came off the bench when they lost to ten man Georgia. He doesn't start.
On the surface that looks like a decent stat. However there is 17% pass failure. That 17% could be more sigifigant if he is giving the ball away in our half. As he has had 0 assists this season it would seem that the 83% pass success rate hasn't really benefited us
Fair enough. If Sofa Score says so, my eyes must have deceived me. Because I think his passing is woeful. A absolute joke at times for a midfielder at this level. He probably has good stats for his frequent three yard passes, but I’d love to know how they are over ten yards or more.
His mid range passing is more accurate (89.2%) than his short range, however fbref defines mid and short passing.
I'm with you, though. I don't see much in him.
For 2023-2024 season:
Accurate passes in his own half ... 89%
Accurate passes in the opposition half ... 76%
[Sofa Score]
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