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    Re: Since we beat Preston

    I'm not Bulut's biggest fan but since March he's won 6 out of 10 games and those without a recognised striker and missing arguably 2 of his best players. Regardless of how we won them, we still beat 2 top four sides, had a notable victory away to Coventry as well as winning the Severside derby at Bristol. Agreed the quality of football played has been dire at times but it's a results business and on that basis Bulut's tenure thus far should be viewed as a success

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moodybluebird View Post
    I'm not Bulut's biggest fan but since March he's won 6 out of 10 games and those without a recognised striker and missing arguably 2 of his best players. Regardless of how we won them, we still beat 2 top four sides, had a notable victory away to Coventry as well as winning the Severside derby at Bristol. Agreed the quality of football played has been dire at times but it's a results business and on that basis Bulut's tenure thus far should be viewed as a success
    Again, that presupposes every team in the country has a choice at the start of the season - play attractively and lose or play boringly and win, as so many clubs prove, it’s not like that in real life. The two teams involved in last bight’s marvellous Championship game have not played their seasons being boring and winning, but they’re both going to finish comfortably above us in the table.
    I say all of that mind, but I don’t think we played anywhere near as bitingly as usual yesterday, we were quite attractive to watch at times, for all the good it did us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Again, that presupposes every team in the country has a choice at the start of the season - play attractively and lose or play boringly and win, as so many clubs prove, it’s not like that in real life. The two teams involved in last bight’s marvellous Championship game have not played their seasons being boring and winning, but they’re both going to finish comfortably above us in the table.
    I say all of that mind, but I don’t think we played anywhere near as bitingly as usual yesterday, we were quite attractive to watch at times, for all the good it did us.
    Sorry, spell checker on my tablet working too much again - I wanted to type boringly, not bitingly

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    Re: Since we beat Preston

    Quote Originally Posted by Moodybluebird View Post
    I'm not Bulut's biggest fan but since March he's won 6 out of 10 games and those without a recognised striker and missing arguably 2 of his best players. Regardless of how we won them, we still beat 2 top four sides, had a notable victory away to Coventry as well as winning the Severside derby at Bristol. Agreed the quality of football played has been dire at times but it's a results business and on that basis Bulut's tenure thus far should be viewed as a success
    A few points about this - I think it's time for everyone to stop talking about missing Ramsey and O'Dowda. O'Dowda, in particular, has become Messi during this injury hit season, when the reality is that he's an average Championship player that has little chance of ever joining a side aiming for promotion. As good as Ramsey can be, there's no way he could carry the side. Not even a prime Craig Bellamy managed to do that and I'd argue that Bellamy in his first stint with us was better than Ramsey has been over the last couple of years.

    Yes, we've beaten 2 top 4 sides and won at Coventry. We've also been well beaten at home by more lowly sides, lost tamely at Swansea and Millwall and gifted a side who couldn't buy a win 3 points at home (Sunderland).

    You might not be concerned on how we win or lose games, but the way I see things are we either win games by getting a goal in front and defending for the rest, waiting for teams a goal up to implode late on, or rely on a bit of luck. You can't say that any of our defeats have been remotely unlucky. In fact, I reckon Ipswich away was possibly the last time we were unlucky to have lost. It might not matter to you, but I find that quite alarming going into next season.

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    Re: Since we beat Preston

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    A few points about this - I think it's time for everyone to stop talking about missing Ramsey and O'Dowda. O'Dowda, in particular, has become Messi during this injury hit season, when the reality is that he's an average Championship player that has little chance of ever joining a side aiming for promotion. As good as Ramsey can be, there's no way he could carry the side. Not even a prime Craig Bellamy managed to do that and I'd argue that Bellamy in his first stint with us was better than Ramsey has been over the last couple of years.

    Yes, we've beaten 2 top 4 sides and won at Coventry. We've also been well beaten at home by more lowly sides, lost tamely at Swansea and Millwall and gifted a side who couldn't buy a win 3 points at home (Sunderland).

    You might not be concerned on how we win or lose games, but the way I see things are we either win games by getting a goal in front and defending for the rest, waiting for teams a goal up to implode late on, or rely on a bit of luck. You can't say that any of our defeats have been remotely unlucky. In fact, I reckon Ipswich away was possibly the last time we were unlucky to have lost. It might not matter to you, but I find that quite alarming going into next season.
    I'd be amazed if we improved our league position under Bulut next season. We create very little in the way of chances from open play, and the players he has brought only confirms his playing style, ie numbers behind the ball, slow methodical build up play occassionally ending in a cross. He hasn't needed a 'striker' because that position is filled by a target man who usually receives the ball at his throat from a pass from our back four. Turnbull and Siopis are poor, and he refuses to play our best attacking footballer, Robinson. If he stays we won't be relegated, but I really don't think he's the man to take this club forward..

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