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We saw from bulut in January he's not afraid to play the sympathy card publicly. He's not bad at it either and obviously works with some people.
I wonder if he's been doing it again about his contract? The way dalman spoke publicly sounded like its bulut who is delaying things.
Unsurprisingly people seem to have accepted hes staying now but i still wouldn't be at all surprised if Saturday is his last game.
No it wouldn’t surprise me either way, Lamouchi walked after talks. I get the impression Bulut wants a decent budget which won’t happen especially when you consider that Tan probably isn’t sure on him.
I wouldn't be at all surprised for him to see him leave after contract talks.
The meeting is on the 4th floor and he’s struggling to press any button past 2.Originally Posted by PontBlue
It seems he waited long enough for the board to speak to him, so if the terms are not right for him he won’t stay.
He won’t be short of takers now.
We live in hope.
I mentioned on here that I feel Bulut, with a bit of help from Dalman, has played the media game well since he arrived to the extent that the hacks tend to be eating from his hands in many of the pre game briefings I’ve seen. The overwhelming impression given is that the delay has been entirely on the club’s side, but I think your question in the thread title is a fair one to ask - Dalman’s interruption to Saturday’s post game press conference certainly sounded like Bulut was still in need of some persuasion.
Maybe the club is playing the media and going through the motions, pretending to make him a good offer and budget, so they can say we tried, then appoint some yes-man Trollope/Harris-type apprentice. I don't think they will offer enough and he will leave but we'll know soon enough. At least if he does stay, it could be seen as an indication that he's been given reassurance that he can bring in players of the calibre he needs to push on.
Managerial career
2013–2015 Millwall U21s
2013–2014 Millwall (caretaker)
2015–2019 Millwall
2019–2021 Cardiff City
2022–2023 Gillingham
2023–2024 Cambridge United
2024– Millwall
I'll just leave this here.
Limited experience and sh!te
Positive stuff, I'm starting to think he may stay after all, maybe Tan isn't playing games?
Erol Bulut reveals positive Cardiff City contract talks and specific details on table
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...gn=communities
The Bluebirds boss spoke ahead of the final game of the season against Rotherham United
Erol Bulut is pleased with how talks over his Cardiff City contract have gone and has laid out in greater detail what he hopes to change moving forward if a new deal is agreed.
The Bluebirds boss takes charge of the final game of his contract on Saturday when Cardiff face Rotherham up in Yorkshire. Bulut has overseen a rise from 21st in the table last year to 12th at time of writing - but the club could finish 10th if results go their way.
It's a marked improvement on battling relegation the last two seasons, of course, but still the manager's future remains in the air. However, he appeared positive with regards to how negotiations with the board have gone so far.
"The first talks were positive, this I can deliver to you," he said. "I think we have to look forward about duration, that I need something in front (of me) so that we can go on. I have tried to discuss this with Vincent (Tan) and Mehmet (Dalman). But the first talks last week were positive."
Bulut said the talks centred around ironing out some "details", which included the length of his contract. In his words, he doesn't want to feel like a "guest" for another season, but "part of the family".
"From my side there are no issues, I would like to stay," he added. "Because we have built something here. We have a start.
"I can also say that I have been a guest here for one year, now I want to be part of the family. I don't want to be a guest again for one more year, I want to be part of the family for the future. If we can handle this, with good plans for the future for Cardiff City Football Club, I will be in."
On the subject of length of any proposed deal, Bulut said: "This is the first step to build something together. This is the correct direction and how the club is thinking.
"To have a different manager or just a one-year contract, the players are also adapting differently, so you have to give a signal to the players, to the club, that this is our way and everyone has to adapt to this.
"When you have only a one-year contract you can't make long-term plans. When you have a three-year contract, you can make long-term plans. It depends on the target. Our target is clear, I don't need to hide anything. You know where we want to go.
"I cannot be happy to say three years after that we want to stay in the league. We would be lying to each other. This can't be the target of Cardiff City and not of Erol Bulut as manager."
The manager doesn't expect the situation to be wrapped up by this weekend. It will go into next week at the earliest, because a lot must be nailed down before a deal can be struck. However the fact these finer details are being discussed should certainly be cause for optimism among the many Bluebirds fans who want Bulut at the club when the next league season kicks off in August.
Bulut also revealed that it was not just about the duration of his contract, but also expanding his coaching staff and bolstering the recruitment department at the club.
Clearly, Bulut is a man full of ambition and if he was to stay on next season he would not be content with finishing mid-table. He would want a productive summer in order to better this season's league position come May. So, how would he do that?
"The first step has to be the signing of new players," he said. "Of course for this, budget is important. When we want to go to the next level, we have to focus on this and go in that direction. Not only me, everyone at the club.
"I think I put a bit of the winning mentality into the club and into the team, because it was lost here for the last years. I am expecting everyone to have that winning mentality. Not just the player on the field, the secretary here has to think like this. If we can manage to have that winning mentality then we are two steps ahead of some other clubs and towards the level where we want to be.
"It's not only players, you can have new players in, but only to bring the players in is not enough.
"Me and my coaching staff, I will try to make my coaching staff bigger for next season. Recruitment and scouts, we have to work on this. Already we've brought one or two scouts in. In every part we have to add a little bit so we can grow as a club."
Dimitrios Goutas on joining Cardiff:
“Erol Bulut contacted me and expressed his interest in my transfer to the team. I accepted the offer without hesitation, considering it a great honor to play under the guidance of an outstanding coach like Erol Bulut.”
David Turnbull on playing at Cardiff this season:
“I’ve had a good start, not an amazing one, I’ve still got a lot more to give and next season will be big for me. We have to push for the play-offs or higher.”
Not even anything to do with Bulut, but no manager should have that much control. Basically ripping it all up the moment they leave.
When will the club learn, its got to put its own structures in place?
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2017–2019 Yeni Malatyaspor
2019–2020 Alanyaspor
2020–2021 Fenerbahçe
2021–2023 Gaziantep
2023– Cardiff City
Few years less experience for Bulut
NCB the post avoiding KingManagerial career
2017–2019 Yeni Malatyaspor
2019–2020 Alanyaspor
2020–2021 Fenerbahçe
2021–2023 Gaziantep
2023– Cardiff City
Few years less experience for Bulut
That might explain why all the local coverage seems to be very pro Bulut at the moment. WOL ran a opinion piece saying it would be madness not to keep him, and BBC Wales Sport have in the last 24 hours run stories listing fans' views on Bulut (all of which desperately want him to stay), comparing his win ratio (but not his loss ratio) to other Cardiff managers and telling us how Steven Caulker (who Bulut signed twice in Turkey) thinks he's the man for the job.
I know a lot a Cardiff fans would agree with all of that, but a lot wouldn't. Doesn't seem very balanced to me.
I suppose there's a natural inclination not to upset important people at the club is something to do with it - the one person among those running the club off the pitch who may be anti Bulut does not spend much time in this country, so I can understand that attitude to a degree, but the media aren't giving a true reflection of how Bulut is perceived by many City fans in my view. I don't know what the proportions would be, but although I doubt if it's a majority who want him out, I think it's not unrealistic to say a sizeable minority do and not all of them are mad, as some in the media claim, by any means.
Interesting to know the overall fan's view, I would say
this board 55% to stay
Other board 70% to stay
Fans in the ground 66%
Not sure those numbers are right,You should run a poll.
Yes, it's only a guess, this board especially may be more anti?
The ones ive seen on Twitter seem very pro him staying. Complete contrast to what I’ve seen on here. Wonder if it’s different age groups wanting different things.
Twitter was also very pro-Steve Morison and seemed to eat up all his bullshit
Don't forget that a lot of people haven't expressed an opinion. Don't fall in to the trap of thinking that the vocal minority speak for us all.
Exactly - might be worth doing a list of post frequency by individuals as there are a range of contributions on here - some prolific some not so much
I think youll find North Cardif Blue makes around 100 posts a day and hes very much in the Pro-Bulut camp.
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