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Does anyone consider the best candidate for their area not from the party they want running the country? Would you vote for your area or vote for a colour hoping to effect the prime minister?
Linking it to another of your posts, it's because politicians (and by extension, people) spend too much time only looking out for their bit. Young people feel older people are prioritised, old people feel young people are...whatever. Too many pointless divisions and not enough social responsibility.Originally Posted by alfie sherwood wrote on Sat, 14 February 2015 14:19
Please defineI dont know any that have Suffered under austerity. If anything cuts to welfare have forced them to go out and improve their lives, so they are better off.What about the tens of thouands that have lost their jobs, the tens of thousands that have had thier pay cut, the people that have been made homeless through the bedroom tax, the people who have had treatment delayed through cuts in health, the people who have been excluded from education, the prople that have lost their library, leisure centre etc --- the list goes on and on.What about the hundreds and hundreds of thousands that have found jobs - should we just ignore those?Yes. Most of them are just made up. - not 'proper jobs.Changing a few definitions of 'employed / unemployed' ... Bish bash bosh.An age old slimy Tory con trick.What's a 'proper' job?A job that pays a decent wage and provides enough hours of work for the empolyee to earn a living from the job.So if I worked in KFC for 20hrs a week it would not be classed as a proper job in your eyes?How pray tell have you drawn that conclusion? would you like to re-read what i said and comment again?
What a CRETIN..........your username(cretin hop) suits
The Eton boys are skating on thin ice with peoples lives, they won't drown though , they will be fine so everyone remain calm
Anyway, back to tax cuts - we are a much more self obssessed society than we were when I was young and I'm sure a promise of more money in your pocket, despite the consequences that will be visited on vital public services as a result, will be enough to clinch the votes of many.Some shameful but predictable responses from people in this thread who are either selfish bastards or simply ignorant ones. Austerity is hitting ordinary people in all sorts of ways and it is going to get much worse in the next couple of years.
For those of us who want a change to our political system I think we need to accept the basic premise that virulent consumerism is here to stay. We are bombarded with advertising messages from morning to night. The growth of the internet/social networking sites and the vast array of TV channels has seen to that.
Inevitably it follows that people - consumers - will, understandably, wish to retain as much of their earnings as possible. Any change to the way in which we're governed will need to reflect that.
Where I think there are opportunities to re-engage the population, who are currently so disconnected from the broad subject of politics, is around the disparity between executive pay and what the average worker earns. A report published last year showed that, on average, British executives earn an obscene 162 times more than the average workers salary.
http://rt.com/uk/172716-income-inequality-widening-gap/ Information like this should be shouted from the rooftops. The average Brit may no longer be working in dark satanic mills or down coal mines for 16 hours a day but they are still being royally ****ed over by a system that allows such a disparity. A system that company employees could change tomorrow if they were properly united or elected people who will change it on their behalf. Is any chief exec really worth more than 10 times the average salary of somebody in his or hers employ?
I also think that people would be engaged by politicians offering legislation that ensured if a set percentage of a workforce voted for their company to become a co-operative or a partnership (along John Lewis lines) then the transition to this fairer system would become legally binding.
Unfortunately, our mainstream politicians are a million miles away from actually having the kahunas to upset their rich and powerful mates by introducing such measures.
Greens for me due to their policies.
Not that I agree with all of their policies but, for me personally, I have decided not to vote tactically and go with the party most aligned to my beliefs and principles.
I may even consider getting involved in the Green party on my return to living in the UK full time.
My only fear is that the Greens may be tempted to form a coalition and that sends shivers down my spine.
UKIP doing far better than I thought.
2. Define "earning a living"I dont know any that have Suffered under austerity. If anything cuts to welfare have forced them to go out and improve their lives, so they are better off.What about the tens of thouands that have lost their jobs, the tens of thousands that have had thier pay cut, the people that have been made homeless through the bedroom tax, the people who have had treatment delayed through cuts in health, the people who have been excluded from education, the prople that have lost their library, leisure centre etc --- the list goes on and on.What about the hundreds and hundreds of thousands that have found jobs - should we just ignore those?Yes. Most of them are just made up. - not 'proper jobs.Changing a few definitions of 'employed / unemployed' ... Bish bash bosh.An age old slimy Tory con trick.What's a 'proper' job?
People who have shit their own pants in public shouldn't complain about others farts.
Mussolini would be proud of the fascist stuff these guys want to force on us. Bunch of dicks.Ive got no idea. Tories are dicks. Lib Dems cant be trusted and Labour have a leader with as much charisma as a sponge. No-one else really has a chance..Thinking maybe the greens, or possibly Plaid, although have no loyalty either waySo will you be votong based on charisma of candidates, or policies? will you be voting for the leader or the local candidate that your vote will actually elect?For me that is the problem in that politics has become a media show with the leaders profile becoming an issue. The TV debates became such a spectacle last time around that I genuinly believe that they became a deciding factor for many voters, possibly because many people now consider the parties well nigh indistinguishable that the profile of the leader is actually an issue.
Ukip
Anyone changed their mind from their original vote?
Make sure you register by the 20th April if you havent already -
https://www.gov.uk/register-to-vote
Welsh poll published today: http://www.itv.com/news/wales/update/2015-04-15/poll-shows-l abour-maintaining-lead-in-wales/
Vote Plaid, Vote Green, Vote Lib Dem, Vote UKIP, dont vote the Red Tories back into power.
Voting UKIP would be a far bigger disaster for Wales than sleepwalking to yet another Labour victory.Welsh poll published today: http://www.itv.com/news/wales/update/2015-04-15/poll-shows-l abour-maintaining-lead-in-wales/
human rights was kidnapped under Blair at the behest of his letterbox gobbed wife.I can't believe that there are people actually voting for UKIP.Ordinary people have been the victims of the main parties for the last number of years and UKIP are saying they'll protect those ordinary (and now desperate) people. If you don't look closer than that they seem like a great party.
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