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Thread: 2020

  1. #151

    Re: 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:11
    don't union members pay subs to the unions, who in turn pay subs to the labour party and for those subs can vote as an affiliate member?
    Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:43
    No, subs go to the union and stay with the union. it would be illegal for subs to go to the Labour Party.
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:38
    Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:31
    Union members can, if they wish, also pay into a seperate fund some of which goes towards funding the labour party.
    Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:31
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:16
    This is how UNISON Opperate the system
    Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:13
    personally, i don't pay into the affiliated fund.
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:04
    I thought the affiliated unions funded the labour party. is that not correct?
    correct.

  2. #152

    Re: 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:26
    Holy crap, how did I miss this!?!?!
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:20
    Feedy's spent hours denying he said this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:18
    I was making a statement that the unions asked their members to pay Ł3 and join Labour and vote for Corbyn so that a union friendly politician could lead their party. The plan worked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:13
    no I did not. I've said all along that the unions wanted corbyn and that the unions wanted their members to vote in the forthcoming election (for Corbyn).
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:12
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:52
    It's there in black and white. You said the unions asked members to vote for Corbyn.
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:39
    Which has been shown not to be true.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:38
    And you've failed to back it up with evidence.
    Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:33
    repeating the same thing over and over doesn't make it true. i still can't see what is contradictory. which statements are you saying are untrue
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:18
    1. the unions wants corbyn; or
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:13
    2. the unions wanted their members to vote in the labour election and vote for corbyn
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:05
    1 is wrong - only some unions backed Corbyn
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:00
    It's the ASKING amembers to vote Corbyn that Feedy has totally ****ed up on
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 10:39
    how did I? The unions that wanted Corbyn actively encouraged their members to vote and ensured that it was as easy as possible for them to vote.
    It's either that or you're telling me I should basically ignore the content of your posts.

  3. #153

    Re: 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:41
    Holy crap, how did I miss this!?!?!
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:26
    Feedy's spent hours denying he said this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:20
    I was making a statement that the unions asked their members to pay Ł3 and join Labour and vote for Corbyn so that a union friendly politician could lead their party. The plan worked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:18
    no I did not. I've said all along that the unions wanted corbyn and that the unions wanted their members to vote in the forthcoming election (for Corbyn).
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:13
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:12
    It's there in black and white. You said the unions asked members to vote for Corbyn.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:52
    Which has been shown not to be true.
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:39
    And you've failed to back it up with evidence.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:38
    repeating the same thing over and over doesn't make it true. i still can't see what is contradictory. which statements are you saying are untrue
    Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:33
    1. the unions wants corbyn; or
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:18
    2. the unions wanted their members to vote in the labour election and vote for corbyn
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:13
    1 is wrong - only some unions backed Corbyn
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:05
    It's the ASKING amembers to vote Corbyn that Feedy has totally ****ed up on
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:00
    how did I? The unions that wanted Corbyn actively encouraged their members to vote and ensured that it was as easy as possible for them to vote.
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 10:39
    Those unions also made it clear that their preferred choice was Corbyn
    Could just be the ultimate whoosh

  4. #154

    Re: 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:44
    Holy crap, how did I miss this!?!?!
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:41
    Feedy's spent hours denying he said this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:26
    I was making a statement that the unions asked their members to pay Ł3 and join Labour and vote for Corbyn so that a union friendly politician could lead their party. The plan worked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:20
    no I did not. I've said all along that the unions wanted corbyn and that the unions wanted their members to vote in the forthcoming election (for Corbyn).
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:18
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:13
    It's there in black and white. You said the unions asked members to vote for Corbyn.
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:12
    Which has been shown not to be true.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:52
    And you've failed to back it up with evidence.
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:39
    repeating the same thing over and over doesn't make it true. i still can't see what is contradictory. which statements are you saying are untrue
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:38
    1. the unions wants corbyn; or
    Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:33
    2. the unions wanted their members to vote in the labour election and vote for corbyn
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:18
    1 is wrong - only some unions backed Corbyn
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:13
    It's the ASKING amembers to vote Corbyn that Feedy has totally ****ed up on
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:05
    how did I? The unions that wanted Corbyn actively encouraged their members to vote and ensured that it was as easy as possible for them to vote.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:00
    Those unions also made it clear that their preferred choice was Corbyn
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 10:39
    Yet didn't ever ask them to vote for Corbyn
    Christ, don't give him ideas, he'll use that.

  5. #155
    Feedback
    Guest

    Re: 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:32
    don't union members pay subs to the unions, who in turn pay subs to the labour party and for those subs can vote as an affiliate member?
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:11
    No, subs go to the union and stay with the union. it would be illegal for subs to go to the Labour Party.
    Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:43
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:38
    Union members can, if they wish, also pay into a seperate fund some of which goes towards funding the labour party.
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:38
    Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:31
    This is how UNISON Opperate the system
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:16
    personally, i don't pay into the affiliated fund.
    Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:13
    I thought the affiliated unions funded the labour party. is that not correct?
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:04
    if it is, then the subs from the members which fund the unions are used to fund the labour party. unless the unions have others sources of funding other than members subs.
    cheers. how do the unions fund the labour party then? is this entirely from affiliated funds?

  6. #156

    Re: 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:48
    don't union members pay subs to the unions, who in turn pay subs to the labour party and for those subs can vote as an affiliate member?
    Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:32
    No, subs go to the union and stay with the union. it would be illegal for subs to go to the Labour Party.
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:11
    Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:43
    Union members can, if they wish, also pay into a seperate fund some of which goes towards funding the labour party.
    Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:43
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:38
    This is how UNISON Opperate the system
    Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:31
    personally, i don't pay into the affiliated fund.
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:16
    I thought the affiliated unions funded the labour party. is that not correct?
    Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:13
    if it is, then the subs from the members which fund the unions are used to fund the labour party. unless the unions have others sources of funding other than members subs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:04
    Read my post again - it is all answered there.
    correct

  7. #157
    Feedback
    Guest

    Re: 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:50
    don't union members pay subs to the unions, who in turn pay subs to the labour party and for those subs can vote as an affiliate member?
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:48
    No, subs go to the union and stay with the union. it would be illegal for subs to go to the Labour Party.
    Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:32
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:11
    Union members can, if they wish, also pay into a seperate fund some of which goes towards funding the labour party.
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 19:11
    Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:43
    This is how UNISON Opperate the system
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:38
    personally, i don't pay into the affiliated fund.
    Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:31
    I thought the affiliated unions funded the labour party. is that not correct?
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:16
    if it is, then the subs from the members which fund the unions are used to fund the labour party. unless the unions have others sources of funding other than members subs.
    Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:13
    Read my post again - it is all answered there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 18:04
    I think we are at cross purposes here Archie. I am saying the members fund the unions and the unions fund the labour party. Have i got that wrong?
    thanks

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