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I don't know whether he should stay or go, but I don't think those now calling for his head have ever truly backed Corbyn and have been waiting for their moment. How can you be a party where the MP's never truly agreed or cared what the members voted for or, looking at the last batch of local elections, a lot of the public voted for?
Jeremy Corbyn was the one saying that Labour needed to be a broad church during the leadership race but it seems those mostly to the right of him in his party want none of that and are far more interested in power by any means (see the guardian opinion piece today which asks whether Hilary is a neo-con) than standing up for Labour values.
I don't think Corbyn can win an election when people talk about him "missing an open goal" in PMQ's and celebrate the Eagle who did it because she made cheap jibes at the Tories, but I don't think that's what our politics should be about and I don't think you should either. The House of Commons should not be about fist-pumping cuts which will cause many sleepless nights or dropping in words because you've lost a bet....Corbyn may not reflect your political views but our political landscape becoming a little more Corbyn-like would be a fantastic thing.
Or, you know, we could just stab him in the back because he cares more about Labour values than his media image and thus we don't think he can win an election.
I reckon Corbyn's a a Tory plant if he isn't he's certainly unelectable
After the recent uprising of the plebs during the referendum, the establishment must be terrified of Corbyn and he needs to be stopped, either by the Blue Tories or by the Red Tories. It's one man versus the whole political class who can smell trouble ahead.
Labour needs a slightly left wing leader, someone who will stand up for the worst off, the disabled and the working man. Someone with some humanity and isn't a career politician. It's interesting that of all the resigned cabinet ministers, all of them voted with the Tories on cuts to tax credits and payments for the disabled.
The best thing that could happen for Labour is for the Tory light brigade to **** off, the ones who are only there for power. That'll stop the infighting within the party. If Labour are united, the right wing media hell bent on destroying Corbyn and any form of socialism will have less to feed on.
How do you know that?
All votes are secret. No one knows who voted how, it is all conjecture and numbers made up by polsters.
In a number of elections, including the last one they got it wrong ad the basic reason was what people tell them, and what those people actually do in the privacy of the voting booth are two different things.
2 pro-Corbyn messages on facebook and the second one is definitely my favourite:
Every single member who resigned this week abstained on the 2015 Welfare Bill which lead to poor and disabled paying for £12 million more in cuts.
35 MPs nominated Jeremy last year and 40 stood with him today – an increase in parliamentary support if anything.
Nothing is what it appears to be There has been so much manipulation of the facts by both the politicians and the media, that most people don't have a clue about what is really going on. If anything, the confusion has been ramped up since the results became known. It's an all out propaganda war that we are witnessing.
UKIP's vote in Wales rose dramatically since 2011 and no doubt has continued to rise since this year's Welsh government elections. A combination of the UKIP and Tory vote was 1% less than Labour's in the WAG election but would certainly have risen with more support for UKIP at Labour's expense. Labour heartlands have less Plaid support than across Wales.
I still reckon around 75% across the UK sounds about right, dropping to maybe 60%-70% in Wales. That would be enough in Labour heartlands, with the combined Tory and UKIP votes to see a leave verdict.
There is a crossover where members are constituents. It's impossible to represent all constituents who vote for you as they'll have different views on certain things. I have no problem with MPs not agreeing with all policies set out by their parties. Party members have the opportunities to vote and shape the party but, again, there'll be MPs who disagree with somethings decided by members.
It's hardly a case of either/or.
There is that as well, coupled with a small desire to give Labour a bloody nose over the Welsh Government.
I think there's potential for Plaid to do well out of this referendum, especially if Scotland holds another independence vote and leaves the UK. Wales will be truly in the shit if we're reliant on a Tory government in Westminster and an ineffective Labour government at the Senedd for years. I believe Welsh people would ultimately prefer joining Scotland and a united Ireland in some Celtic coalition in the EU than being stranded on its own in the UK being strangled by England.