Reply With QuoteIt's not often you score 400 and are still on the end of a right old hammering. Don't fancy Englands chances of batting out a day for a draw at all.Originally Posted by MacAdder
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Managed to stay away from the Test match scores so I could enjoy the highlights which I just watched.
Whatever you think regarding the Indians only being able to perform on home soil and not travelling very well, today was as one sided a days cricket as you are likely to see.
300 runs in a maiden test from Karun Nair and 759 runs (most test runs conceded by England).
Not the swansong captain Cooke has been dreaming of before he relinquishes his captaincy.
Needing to bat all day tomorrow on a flat pitch but taking spin, I wouldn't put money on England losing this one... and the series 4 nil!
It's not often you score 400 and are still on the end of a right old hammering. Don't fancy Englands chances of batting out a day for a draw at all.
Agree on both counts. They should never have put themselves in such a position.
Serves them, and Sky, bloody well right. They wax lyrical about Joe Root (good player don't get me wrong and their best player) but hitting 50's and tons in India just ain't good enough.
Not much back slapping gone on during this tour.
Huge pressure on Alistair tomorrow.
The biggest let down has been the spin bowlers, the seem to have been picked for their batting ability other than their primary one which is spin bowling and they've come up woefully short.
The reason why India have won the series easily is because their spin bowlers are better than ours.
I always find tests in India boring at the best of times.
No wickets down yet anyway.
Although he struggled desperately in the test matches on India's last visit to England, Kohli is obviously a class act, but I'm still not sure about the others on wickets that seam or swing and have some bounce for the quicker bowlers. India have bowlers who will do pretty well in such conditions though now and the two spinners who were outbowled by Swann and Panesar when England last visited them both seem to be much improved since then - India are probably the best test team in the world at the moment, but Anil Kumble's claim that they are the best team ever is pure pie in the sky.
It's also true that England have made India look good. Alien is right, the spin bowlers have not been good enough - they haven't come close to replacing Swann and may as well just go for who they consider to be the best young spinner around and give him a series or two to try to establish themselves. The two seam bowlers who have carried the English attack for years are becoming increasingly injury prone, while Wood, who would make such a difference to the attack, is plainly one of those players who is always going to struggle to get on the pitch.
Bayliss was appointed mainly because of what he could do for the one day teams and he's done well in that respect, but the test team has got worse under his watch. England usually bat with a one frame of mind in test matches, but when they try and graft, the stroke makers are shown to have inadequate techniques. Root apart, they have not had what I would call an established test match middle order batsman since Ian Bell was dropped, Hameed and, to a lesser degree, Jennings offer hope that the top order problems may have been solved, but we need to find a specialist number four or five now.
I think it's eight tests lost in 2016 for England. I know they've played a lot this year, but that's a poor record which contradicts the line you often hear on Sky that this is a very good group of players - they aren't, in test cricket at least, and they won't be until they show more of a test match attitude to batting.
Oh, oh 138-4.
167-4 at tea
192-5, not the most clever shot by Moeen.
Good job that shower of shite is 100% nothing to do with Wales. Bunch of English/German royal loving poofs
196-7, don't panic, don't panic!
Unfortunately Jason, it is 100% to do with Wales. If you're born in Wales, you're qualified to play for England and Wales. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.Good job that shower of shite is 100% nothing to do with Wales. Bunch of English/German royal loving poofs
Thanks for the homophobic comment as well, that was lovely. I've never met anyone who likes cricket who's said something along these lines though, so I'm safe in the knowledge that you're an unhappy troll.
FWIW, if Cricket Wales left the ECB, they'd lose approx £3m in funding, and get £30k in its place. Also, they'd play max 2 games a year vs Nepal or some backwater and would likely never get test status. It's a non starter, so take that chip off your shoulder and enjoy it.
200 for 8 now. Incredible!
207-9.
207 all out, simply not good enough after the pre lunch session - this generation of players seem to think there's more honour in losing by having a thrash than drawing by blocking.
Agree, it's painfully obvious to me that few are test match players. I doubt they ever practise the forward defensive!
There is a train of thought that you get rid of the short fielders by attacking the bowler and playing your shots. This may work against their own bowlers on English (and Welsh) pitches but not against this quality of bowler and on Indian pitches.
Entertaining series though, I didn't think I'd enjoy it as much as I did.
Credit must go to India, they bowled better and showed the English batsmen how to make BIG scores.
To be fair, we did score 477. Scoreboard pressure in the second innings, and it is the way cricket is going. Too many aggressive players, people like Cook and Hameed are a throwback. You take the rough with the smooth with Buttler and Stokes too, Stokes especially is a fantastic all rounder who can win you a game in a session, I'm still not sure re Buttler at the test level though. Letting them get 700+ killed us though, we've got to get better taking wickets on foreign soil, regardless of the batting collapse, they've got to find a spinner. I know they've said Jack Leach has a suspect action (I think that's to save their own arse), he's got to be given a go.Agree, it's painfully obvious to me that few are test match players. I doubt they ever practise the forward defensive!
There is a train of thought that you get rid of the short fielders by attacking the bowler and playing your shots. This may work against their own bowlers on English (and Welsh
Entertaining series though, I didn't think I'd enjoy it as much as I did.
Credit must go to India, they bowled better and showed the English batsmen how to make BIG scores.
To be Honest as a Welshman I could never support England at Cricket.
to be honest as a Welshman England cricket is the only English team i can wholeheartedly support for the reasons already given
Fecking Traitor
Give a rest FFSGood job that shower of shite is 100% nothing to do with Wales. Bunch of English/German royal loving poofs
Not sure why. England (in name) is the test tier for the England and Wales cricket board, that Wales (as a minor county) and Glamorgan belong to. It's also where the best Welsh cricketers aim in terms of international honours.
You can Justify it all you want.....At the end of the Day the team on display is called England and their Badge has 3 lions on it.
and that has nothing to do with Wales.
I'm not justifying anything.
If you're such an opponent of England as a test nation, who should the best Welsh players represent? Wales as a minor county? Forget about Wales as a test nation as it would collapse in no time through no money.
Same as the football.....Glamorgan play in the english system welsh players should play for Wales.
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