The People vs the Snoopers' Charter

[Organ Morgan.]

You haven't got it have you, you ****ing slow dance.

He won't care about privacy for as long as he can carry on Tommy Tanking himself into oblivion while ogling internet pics and vids of Russ.

[Tandy]

You haven't got it have you, you ****ing slow dance.

O I got it all right you are worried MI5 are watching you, yet you are prepared to let every low life on FB know that you are on holiday for a week in Happy Valley.

[Croesy Blue]

O I got it all right you are worried MI5 are watching you, yet you are prepared to let every low life on FB know that you are on holiday for a week in Happy Valley.

Still completely missing the point 🙈

[Mrs Steve R]

You haven't got it have you, you ****ing slow dance.

O I got it all right you are worried MI5 are watching you, yet you are prepared to let every low life on FB know that you are on holiday for a week in Happy Valley.

Tandy can you really not see a difference in what someone chooses to share and all of your data being taken without consent?

[Tandy]

Tandy can you really not see a difference in what someone chooses to share and all of your data being taken without consent?

Why do you choose to give out information about yourself and your family to total strangers then worry about data taken without your consent? The data they collect can not be pinpointed to you because you share the house with 4 others.

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

He's got to be on a wind up, nobody is this wilfully ignorant.

[Mrs Steve R]

Why do you choose to give out information about yourself and your family to total strangers then worry about data taken without your consent? The data they collect can not be pinpointed to you because you share the house with 4 others.

Well that goes some way in to explaining why you think Slade was a great manager, the phrase 'Don't know shit from clay' springs to mind.

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

Why do you choose to give out information about yourself and your family to total strangers then worry about data taken without your consent? The data they collect can not be pinpointed to you because you share the house with 4 others.

Why do they even need this new law then? Surely they've already got everything they need from social media.

Daft sod.

[surge]

It doesn't really matter whether you believe you have nothing to hide or not though. They will (presumably) only search through your data if they believe you have something to hide and therefore are starting with the view to find something. Your innocent searches may not appear so innocent any longer.

It's been so widely criticised and yet pushed through by this government. It allows MP's to have higher status than ordinary people which given the expenses scandal etc. etc. may not be a good thing.

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

It doesn't really matter whether you believe you have nothing to hide or not though. They will (presumably) only search through your data if they believe you have something to hide and therefore are starting with the view to find something. Your innocent searches may not appear so innocent any longer.

It's been so widely criticised and yet pushed through by this government. It allows MP's to have higher status than ordinary people which given the expenses scandal etc. etc. may not be a good thing.

Yup, they're the ones that get to decide what qualifies as "having something to hide", and just look at the list of agencies that get to plough through our private lives:

Metropolitan police force
City of London police force
Police forces maintained under section 2 of the Police Act 1996
Police Service of Scotland
Police Service of Northern Ireland
British Transport Police
Ministry of Defence Police
Royal Navy Police
Royal Military Police
Royal Air Force Police
Security Service
Secret Intelligence Service
GCHQ
Ministry of Defence
Department of Health
Home Office
Ministry of Justice
National Crime Agency
HM Revenue & Customs
Department for Transport
Department for Work and Pensions
NHS trusts and foundation trusts in England that provide ambulance services
Common Services Agency for the Scottish Health Service
Competition and Markets Authority
Criminal Cases Review Commission
Department for Communities in Northern Ireland
Department for the Economy in Northern Ireland
Department of Justice in Northern Ireland
Financial Conduct Authority
Fire and rescue authorities under the Fire and Rescue Services Act 2004
Food Standards Agency
Food Standards Scotland
Gambling Commission
Gangmasters and Labour Abuse Authority
Health and Safety Executive
Independent Police Complaints Commissioner
Information Commissioner
NHS Business Services Authority
Northern Ireland Ambulance Service Health and Social Care Trust
Northern Ireland Fire and Rescue Service Board
Northern Ireland Health and Social Care Regional Business Services Organisation
Office of Communications
Office of the Police Ombudsman for Northern Ireland
Police Investigations and Review Commissioner
Scottish Ambulance Service Board
Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission
Serious Fraud Office
Welsh Ambulance Services National Health Service Trust

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

And that's just if they use it as intended, just imagine how easily this can (and will) be abused.

[nugent]

Wasn't gary glitter the first to be done for doing stuff "in the privacy of his own home ?"

Yeah he was nuge.

Cheers nuge

[nugent]

Why has anyone think they've got the God damn given right to surf the Web without being looked at.
If you go in a shop and a security guard is looking at you , do you kick off?

****ing morons mun. I've been drinking gin tonight, so don't ****ing start. Nob eds

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Consider a donation to help fight the battle: https://www.crowdjustice.org/case/snoopers-charter/

Ever googled something personal?


Who you text, email or call. Your social media activity. Which websites you visit.


Who you bank with. Where your kids go to school. Your sexual preferences, health worries, religious and political beliefs.


Since November, the Snoopers’ Charter – the Investigatory Powers Act – has let the Government access all this intimate information, building up an incredibly detailed picture of you, your family and friends, your hobbies and habits – your entire life.


And it won’t just be accessed by the Home Secretary. Dozens of agencies – the Department for Work and Pensions, HMRC and 46 others – can now see sensitive details of your personal life.


Over 200,000 people signed a petition to stop the Snoopers’ Charter, the Government didn’t listen so we’re taking them to court and we need your help.


There’s no opt-out and you don’t need to be suspected of anything. It will just happen all the time, to every one of us.
The Investigatory Powers Act lets Government keep records of and monitor your private emails, texts and phone calls – that’s where you are, who you speak to, what you say – and all without any suspicion of wrongdoing.


It forces internet companies like Sky, BT and TalkTalk to log every website you visit or app you have used, creating a vast database of deeply sensitive and revealing information. At a time when companies and governments are under increasingly frequent attack from hackers, this will create a goldmine for criminals and foreign spies.

You're claiming (or rather the author of the post that you've copied and pasted is claiming) that the government has built up incredibly detailed pictures of each individual and that every government department is having a look.

That is scaremongering. And it's bollocks.

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

You're claiming (or rather the author of the post that you've copied and pasted is claiming) that the government has built up incredibly detailed pictures of each individual and that every government department is having a look.

That is scaremongering. And it's bollocks.

It's not a post, it's the text from the link I put in the OP.

As for it being "bollocks", what part specifically are you disputing, the bit about our own private data being saved or the bit about the dozens of agencies having access to it?

[JDerrida]

]"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."[/B]

Yet the majority of the country seem happy to give up a huge chunk of their freedom for what is essentially no gain.

You may have nothing to hide now but who knows what changes will be made to the law in the next few years.

Those who would give up essential Security and Safety, to maintain the Liberty of those who wish to cause harm deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

Yet the minority of the country seem happy to give up a huge chunk of the whole country's Security and Safety for what is essentially no harm to the average person's Liberty.

[Croesy Blue]

Those who would give up essential Security and Safety, to maintain the Liberty of those who wish to cause harm deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

Yet the minority of the country seem happy to give up a huge chunk of the whole country's Security and Safety for what is essentially no harm to the average person's Liberty.

Bollocks, we aren't giving up any security. Anyone who thinks we are is just buying into the fear mongoring narrative. If there are terrorist who are going to be successful they'll have to be better prepared than using a normal ISP that can be easily traced.

[Croesy Blue]

Those who would give up essential Security and Safety, to maintain the Liberty of those who wish to cause harm deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

Yet the minority of the country seem happy to give up a huge chunk of the whole country's Security and Safety for what is essentially no harm to the average person's Liberty.

What security and safety is being given up? The UK is perfectly safe.

[Croesy Blue]

Why has anyone think they've got the God damn given right to surf the Web without being looked at.
If you go in a shop and a security guard is looking at you , do you kick off?

****ing morons mun. I've been drinking gin tonight, so don't ****ing start. Nob eds

Go to bed you're thick enough when you haven't had a drink. No I don't kick off about being watched in a private place.

If that security guard was looking through your window while you watched TV would you be pissed off?

[nugent]

We need supervision tho. For our own good

[lardy]

We need supervision tho. For our own good

It's never been so apt to say "speak for yourself"

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

Stockholm syndrome.

[surge]

Those who would give up essential Security and Safety, to maintain the Liberty of those who wish to cause harm deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

Yet the minority of the country seem happy to give up a huge chunk of the whole country's Security and Safety for what is essentially no harm to the average person's Liberty.

Aren't we already the most watched citizens in the world with the number of CCTV cameras? If UK liberty and UK security were a weighing scale then the balance already sits comfortably with security.

Capita, though not a government department, raised suspicion over people's benefits simply because they lived above a "WH Smith" which lead to them being stopped. It may be a lack of understanding that introduces suspicion and that can spiral into something much worse for an innocent person.

There is potential that the mountain of data leads to searching for a needle in a haystack and the action that needs to be analysed is lost.

[JDerrida]

Bollocks, we aren't giving up any security.

Why the aggression? Do you often get aggressive with anyone who has a different opinion to you?

Anyone who thinks we are is just buying into the fear mongoring narrative.

You use an absolute generalisation when stating 'anyone'. You do not know what the majority think exactly or why they think that way.
In fairness, could the same be said about you that you are buying into the opposite narrative.

If there are terrorist who are going to be successful they'll have to be better prepared than using a normal ISP that can be easily traced.

Normal ISP's are the tip of the iceberg. Britain needs to protect itself from those who wish to do us harm.
There are significant numbers who are in that category, along with even greater numbers who will offer them support, security, cover, protection and safety. I want my country to do what is required to protect us from those people.

We all have opinions.

Mine is that I trust my country to protect us, more than relying on the goodwill of those who hate us and wish to do us harm.

What other opinions are there on the protection of our country?

[Mrs Steve R]

We need supervision tho. For our own good

It's never been so apt to say "speak for yourself"

This ^^ wtf is wrong with you nugent?