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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    You haven't got it have you, you ****ing slow dance.
    He won't care about privacy for as long as he can carry on Tommy Tanking himself into oblivion while ogling internet pics and vids of Russ.

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    Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    You haven't got it have you, you ****ing slow dance.
    O I got it all right you are worried MI5 are watching you, yet you are prepared to let every low life on FB know that you are on holiday for a week in Happy Valley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    O I got it all right you are worried MI5 are watching you, yet you are prepared to let every low life on FB know that you are on holiday for a week in Happy Valley.
    Still completely missing the point 🙈

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    Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    You haven't got it have you, you ****ing slow dance.



    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    O I got it all right you are worried MI5 are watching you, yet you are prepared to let every low life on FB know that you are on holiday for a week in Happy Valley.
    Tandy can you really not see a difference in what someone chooses to share and all of your data being taken without consent?

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    Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post




    Tandy can you really not see a difference in what someone chooses to share and all of your data being taken without consent?
    Why do you choose to give out information about yourself and your family to total strangers then worry about data taken without your consent? The data they collect can not be pinpointed to you because you share the house with 4 others.

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    He's got to be on a wind up, nobody is this wilfully ignorant.

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    Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter

    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    Why do you choose to give out information about yourself and your family to total strangers then worry about data taken without your consent? The data they collect can not be pinpointed to you because you share the house with 4 others.
    Well that goes some way in to explaining why you think Slade was a great manager, the phrase 'Don't know shit from clay' springs to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tandy View Post
    Why do you choose to give out information about yourself and your family to total strangers then worry about data taken without your consent? The data they collect can not be pinpointed to you because you share the house with 4 others.
    Why do they even need this new law then? Surely they've already got everything they need from social media.

    Daft sod.

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    It doesn't really matter whether you believe you have nothing to hide or not though. They will (presumably) only search through your data if they believe you have something to hide and therefore are starting with the view to find something. Your innocent searches may not appear so innocent any longer.

    It's been so widely criticised and yet pushed through by this government. It allows MP's to have higher status than ordinary people which given the expenses scandal etc. etc. may not be a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    It doesn't really matter whether you believe you have nothing to hide or not though. They will (presumably) only search through your data if they believe you have something to hide and therefore are starting with the view to find something. Your innocent searches may not appear so innocent any longer.

    It's been so widely criticised and yet pushed through by this government. It allows MP's to have higher status than ordinary people which given the expenses scandal etc. etc. may not be a good thing.
    Yup, they're the ones that get to decide what qualifies as "having something to hide", and just look at the list of agencies that get to plough through our private lives:

    Metropolitan police force
    City of London police force
    Police forces maintained under section 2 of the Police Act 1996
    Police Service of Scotland
    Police Service of Northern Ireland
    British Transport Police
    Ministry of Defence Police
    Royal Navy Police
    Royal Military Police
    Royal Air Force Police
    Security Service
    Secret Intelligence Service
    GCHQ
    Ministry of Defence
    Department of Health
    Home Office
    Ministry of Justice
    National Crime Agency
    HM Revenue & Customs
    Department for Transport
    Department for Work and Pensions
    NHS trusts and foundation trusts in England that provide ambulance services
    Common Services Agency for the Scottish Health Service
    Competition and Markets Authority
    Criminal Cases Review Commission
    Department for Communities in Northern Ireland
    Department for the Economy in Northern Ireland
    Department of Justice in Northern Ireland
    Financial Conduct Authority
    Fire and rescue authorities under the Fire and Rescue Services Act 2004
    Food Standards Agency
    Food Standards Scotland
    Gambling Commission
    Gangmasters and Labour Abuse Authority
    Health and Safety Executive
    Independent Police Complaints Commissioner
    Information Commissioner
    NHS Business Services Authority
    Northern Ireland Ambulance Service Health and Social Care Trust
    Northern Ireland Fire and Rescue Service Board
    Northern Ireland Health and Social Care Regional Business Services Organisation
    Office of Communications
    Office of the Police Ombudsman for Northern Ireland
    Police Investigations and Review Commissioner
    Scottish Ambulance Service Board
    Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission
    Serious Fraud Office
    Welsh Ambulance Services National Health Service Trust

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    And that's just if they use it as intended, just imagine how easily this can (and will) be abused.

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    Wasn't gary glitter the first to be done for doing stuff "in the privacy of his own home ?"

    Yeah he was nuge.

    Cheers nuge

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    Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter

    Why has anyone think they've got the God damn given right to surf the Web without being looked at.
    If you go in a shop and a security guard is looking at you , do you kick off?

    ****ing morons mun. I've been drinking gin tonight, so don't ****ing start. Nob eds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi View Post
    Consider a donation to help fight the battle: https://www.crowdjustice.org/case/snoopers-charter/

    Ever googled something personal?


    Who you text, email or call. Your social media activity. Which websites you visit.


    Who you bank with. Where your kids go to school. Your sexual preferences, health worries, religious and political beliefs.


    Since November, the Snoopers’ Charter – the Investigatory Powers Act – has let the Government access all this intimate information, building up an incredibly detailed picture of you, your family and friends, your hobbies and habits – your entire life.


    And it won’t just be accessed by the Home Secretary. Dozens of agencies – the Department for Work and Pensions, HMRC and 46 others – can now see sensitive details of your personal life.


    Over 200,000 people signed a petition to stop the Snoopers’ Charter, the Government didn’t listen so we’re taking them to court and we need your help.


    There’s no opt-out and you don’t need to be suspected of anything. It will just happen all the time, to every one of us.
    The Investigatory Powers Act lets Government keep records of and monitor your private emails, texts and phone calls – that’s where you are, who you speak to, what you say – and all without any suspicion of wrongdoing.


    It forces internet companies like Sky, BT and TalkTalk to log every website you visit or app you have used, creating a vast database of deeply sensitive and revealing information. At a time when companies and governments are under increasingly frequent attack from hackers, this will create a goldmine for criminals and foreign spies.
    You're claiming (or rather the author of the post that you've copied and pasted is claiming) that the government has built up incredibly detailed pictures of each individual and that every government department is having a look.

    That is scaremongering. And it's bollocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    You're claiming (or rather the author of the post that you've copied and pasted is claiming) that the government has built up incredibly detailed pictures of each individual and that every government department is having a look.

    That is scaremongering. And it's bollocks.
    It's not a post, it's the text from the link I put in the OP.

    As for it being "bollocks", what part specifically are you disputing, the bit about our own private data being saved or the bit about the dozens of agencies having access to it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue;4709774[B
    ]"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."[/B]

    Yet the majority of the country seem happy to give up a huge chunk of their freedom for what is essentially no gain.

    You may have nothing to hide now but who knows what changes will be made to the law in the next few years.
    Those who would give up essential Security and Safety, to maintain the Liberty of those who wish to cause harm deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

    Yet the minority of the country seem happy to give up a huge chunk of the whole country's Security and Safety for what is essentially no harm to the average person's Liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDerrida View Post
    Those who would give up essential Security and Safety, to maintain the Liberty of those who wish to cause harm deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

    Yet the minority of the country seem happy to give up a huge chunk of the whole country's Security and Safety for what is essentially no harm to the average person's Liberty.
    Bollocks, we aren't giving up any security. Anyone who thinks we are is just buying into the fear mongoring narrative. If there are terrorist who are going to be successful they'll have to be better prepared than using a normal ISP that can be easily traced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDerrida View Post
    Those who would give up essential Security and Safety, to maintain the Liberty of those who wish to cause harm deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

    Yet the minority of the country seem happy to give up a huge chunk of the whole country's Security and Safety for what is essentially no harm to the average person's Liberty.
    What security and safety is being given up? The UK is perfectly safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nugent View Post
    Why has anyone think they've got the God damn given right to surf the Web without being looked at.
    If you go in a shop and a security guard is looking at you , do you kick off?

    ****ing morons mun. I've been drinking gin tonight, so don't ****ing start. Nob eds
    Go to bed you're thick enough when you haven't had a drink. No I don't kick off about being watched in a private place.

    If that security guard was looking through your window while you watched TV would you be pissed off?

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    Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter

    We need supervision tho. For our own good

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    Quote Originally Posted by nugent View Post
    We need supervision tho. For our own good
    It's never been so apt to say "speak for yourself"

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    Stockholm syndrome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDerrida View Post
    Those who would give up essential Security and Safety, to maintain the Liberty of those who wish to cause harm deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

    Yet the minority of the country seem happy to give up a huge chunk of the whole country's Security and Safety for what is essentially no harm to the average person's Liberty.
    Aren't we already the most watched citizens in the world with the number of CCTV cameras? If UK liberty and UK security were a weighing scale then the balance already sits comfortably with security.

    Capita, though not a government department, raised suspicion over people's benefits simply because they lived above a "WH Smith" which lead to them being stopped. It may be a lack of understanding that introduces suspicion and that can spiral into something much worse for an innocent person.

    There is potential that the mountain of data leads to searching for a needle in a haystack and the action that needs to be analysed is lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Bollocks, we aren't giving up any security.

    Why the aggression? Do you often get aggressive with anyone who has a different opinion to you?

    Anyone who thinks we are is just buying into the fear mongoring narrative.

    You use an absolute generalisation when stating 'anyone'. You do not know what the majority think exactly or why they think that way.
    In fairness, could the same be said about you that you are buying into the opposite narrative.


    If there are terrorist who are going to be successful they'll have to be better prepared than using a normal ISP that can be easily traced.

    Normal ISP's are the tip of the iceberg. Britain needs to protect itself from those who wish to do us harm.
    There are significant numbers who are in that category, along with even greater numbers who will offer them support, security, cover, protection and safety. I want my country to do what is required to protect us from those people.
    We all have opinions.

    Mine is that I trust my country to protect us, more than relying on the goodwill of those who hate us and wish to do us harm.

    What other opinions are there on the protection of our country?

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    Re: The People vs the Snoopers' Charter

    Quote Originally Posted by nugent View Post
    We need supervision tho. For our own good
    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    It's never been so apt to say "speak for yourself"
    This ^^ wtf is wrong with you nugent?

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