Reply With Quotewell done Sluidge. I hate the feckers too.Lying bastards.Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
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Less than a couple of quid per head of population.....
well done Sluidge. I hate the feckers too.Lying bastards.
I doubt that Corbyn had much choice at 11.You would vote Labour even if Jeremy Corbyn had just killed your kids - nothing like a man so narrow minded that they will never change their mind.
Jeremy Corbyn went to a grammar school.... and yet he is opposed to them. His son also went, but I think that was JC's wife over ruling him....
You would vote Labour even if Jeremy Corbyn had just killed your kids - nothing like a man so narrow minded that they will never change their mind.
Jeremy Corbyn went to a grammar school.... and yet he is opposed to them. His son also went, but I think that was JC's wife over ruling him....I went to grammar school, I also had a grant to do my degree.
My daughters are saddled with £1000s of debt after their courses.
Labour for me too.
The LibDems will win my constituency (Clegg), Labour will be hammered, the Kippers will implode, Theresa May will get her massively increased majority, Corbin may well walk the plank, but it will be all to fight for in 5 years time. It will be very grim times at the bottom and more incompetence at the top. But there will be cheap holidays abroad in Scotland - silver lining!
Yes I agree with you on this. It was Blair's Government that brought in tuition fees in an attempt to make it possible for there to be a huge increase in under graduates without encumbering the state with all of the costs.
Yes, I know studen loans came in under Blair's gov. But I believe the seeds were sown by Major (I could be wrong)
Taxation is ridiculoisly low these days - when I started work a basic rate-payer lost about a third of his pay.
Is there anyone worth voting for this time?
A gormless vampire she-robot backed by a bunch of inbred posh dullards or a clueless boring beardy bloke and a motley collection of nobodies who are only there by default because everyone else has stabbed him in the back.
I suppose we could always back an each way outsider? How about the liberal Sunday school teacher who looks like that kid in school who had to eat special food and stay indoors due to his allergies? Perhaps that bullshitting Eddie Hitler from UKIP? (who don't actually have a purpose any more).
I guess that leaves Plaid and the Greens - so either a party that sees having S4C and Welsh road signs as the key to success or some bloke in an itchy jumper banging on about how my fridge is killing the planet.
I think I'm going to vote for Sludge this time - I'll just add his name to the bottom of the list. I'm sure nobody will mind.
That's absolute quality.
Summed it up perfectly.
I'm a swing voter. I vote for which party I think will do the best job for the next 5 years .
I think I know which way I'll go this time, but it's increasingly becoming the lesser of the evils which some of the parties in their current forms present
Only it completely capitalised the system and universities no longer value their courses, taking on any bum if they throw money at them.
I'm also going to vote for the party of the working class...
That isn't an argument.
Blair didn't simply back bush they went hand in hand.
In the coalition now you see the UK taking a back seat. Under Tory guidance they are not front line and centre.
Labour took us to war costing hundreds of thousands of lives. & even after the beginning of the war they were voted back into power.
Anti Tories always bring out the past, fundamentally evil. When you bring up Labour's past they claim it was outside influence poisoning the party.
Labour voters grandstanding about morals died many moons ago.
I suppose in 50-60 years time we can look back and thank the recent Labour party efforts for completely destroying our image abroad. Creating the scenario for the worst refugee crisis in 70 odd years. However many dead. Some of the oldest civilisations in existence decimated.
Not according to Mcdonald
What is the purpose of your hypothetical scenario in paragraph 1?You would vote Labour even if Jeremy Corbyn had just killed your kids - nothing like a man so narrow minded that they will never change their mind.
Jeremy Corbyn went to a grammar school.... and yet he is opposed to them. His son also went, but I think that was JC's wife over ruling him....
Paragraph 2 - I doubt that JC had much say on the matter and, being 11, I doubt that his politics were formed then.
His marriage broke up over his son's education. I find that tragic, you find it amusing. A bit like the vicar's daughter.
Theresa May voted WITH the Labour government in 2003. So, you are right, she would have backed Bush in 2003.
How you vote is up to you, but I can't understand the logic of voting for one party in a lifetime.
Corbyn is seen as unelectable mainly because Rupert Murdoch wants them to think that way.
Corbyn is a decent bloke, but I haven't got a clue what he thinks of the main topic in this election - Brexit.
We still do. I take home 64% of my pay but that's not including Council Tax and Road Tax.
Tory? Check Theresa Maybe's voting record.
The Toryparty (including Theresa May) backed Blair. More so than the voters - we didn't have a chance to vote on the Iraq war having elected Blair a second time in 2001 prior to 9/11.
I have decided on my MP as opposed to the party this time. Jo Stephens left the front bench due to Corbyn's support of article 50 sonshes getting my vote.
Jeremy Corbyn nice man or not is not up to job, he never wanted it. Hopefully next leader is someone far more tenacious in holding TM to account.
With Labour and UKIP imploding, Plaid (in Wales) and the Lib Dems could be the best tactical votes to ensure the Tory's don't get a 100+ majority
People in Wales voted in favour for Brexit - yes. But, many Brexitters that I know rarely, if ever, vote in General Elections.
I voted to remain, and for that reason I will vote Lib Dems.
In the meantime, the Tories are planning to bypass Parliament in their attempts to re-write the EU laws. This will be done by a PM who hates scrutiny, and votes against the worker on every occasion. They also want the right to look at people's e-mails, texts and internet history - to fight "terrorism" of which there has only been one terrorist attack in the UK since 9/11.
Under the cloak of Brexit, Theresa May will get her grimy little claws in many facets of our lives (both private and professional). I would say that, even if you voted for Brexit there is a chance you DIDN'T vote for Theresa May's version of it. Theresa May will deliver Brexit, of that there is no doubt. But, it's a murkier Brexit than the one some of the "moderates" voted for. Some people have even claimed they would now vote to remain given the opportunity, because they were sold a vision where we would retain access to the Single Market.
Theresa May has gone from being a reluctant remainer to becoming a full blown extreme Brexitter.
She'll get a huge majority, and the sick, unemployed, and unskilled will be the major losers. All for control of our borders which, even the old hag admits, cannot be achieved before 2024.
If Labour had David Miliband, or even Ed Miliband (why do leaders step down after one defeat?) then May would struggle because she is even less decisive than Gordon Brown.
If you like the NHS, the police force, the prison service, education and the welfare state, do not vote Conservative
Brexit will happen regardless, but voting Conservative in overwhelming numbers will give them a mandate to destroy and sell off the NHS, the schools, the prison service, the police etc
That is a valid point. However, many members of the public poured scorn on the claims that Iraq could attack the UK within 45 minutes. Theresa May was among those who had access to more evidence than the public did, and she believed it. Now we will give her a huge mandate to spend 5 years with an already poor record of voting based on a lack of critical fact finding.
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