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As it stands:
Portugal. Italy, Denmark, Sweden (or Holland), N.Ireland & Greece guaranteed
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Slovakia 12pts +5 goals
Wales 11pts +2 7 for
Croatia 11pts +2 6 for
Ukraine 11pts +1 8 for
I give up. Its beyond me ffs
2-2 we do like a bit of drama with our failure.
2 - 2 still a few mins to go
Slovenia had a guy sent of with 2 minutes to go.
I think I'd rather we went into tomorrow night knowing we HAVE to win and that's that. It's always been that we needed to win the last four games and we have achieved three of the four, and I doubt the management and the squad will have changed in their approach.
As said above, a Georgia draw in Serbia is a very real possibility, so we could even do away with the need for a Play Off, provided we get those precious three points tomorrow.
Not so Mike. GD only applies against the teams in the group excluding the bottom placed team. On that basis if we draw then we are below Slovakia. Our only get out clause for a draw tomorrow night is a low scoring draw between Ukraine v Croatia. We certainly cannot rely on that outcome. We need to win.
What about Greece?
Greece have 16 points, 3 of which were against Gibraltar. So in the mini league they have 13 points no matter what?
We need to forget other teams. Only the Ukraine v Crostia game offers a slim prospect of saving us if we draw. Forget other teams. We have to win.
Technically Greece could still finish 3rd in their group and miss out all together if they draw or lose and Bosnia win. And we would finish above Bosnia in the play-off table with a any kind of draw.
However Greece have Gibralter at home so extremely unlikely they won't win and finish 2nd.
I think.
That brings up an interesting point.
If results against the bottom side aren't counted, why do they still count when calculating 2nd place in the group? It is possible for a team to have a better record against the other teams, lose to the bottom side twice, but have a better record against teams finishing 1st, 2nd, etc than the actual runner up.
So basically this is the stupidest qualifying campaign ever