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The EU do not want us to leave because we make the whole thing financially viable. without Britain it will collapse faster.
At every turn they are stalling the talks and process.
The Government need to grab the issue fully and LEAVE.
Then and only then will the unelected undemocratic lunatics realise they have to talk to Britain constructively.
My patience with the EU is at an end. How much longer will the Government tolerate them?
AA2 you don't even live in the UK so calm down.
Perhaps that's the future collapse of the economy , third world status, Venuzalian type of politics, right wing militia forming in the depths of the new forest and other outback regions. Overthrow the Royality, republic president elected ,align our economies with Catalonia,and South American dictatorships , everyone gets an allotment space to feed a family of four, roads turned into cycle tracks .
Whoosh end of the capitalist dream in the UK,sorted .
Scotland seeks sanctuary in EU membership and is saved from the chaos engulfing the Welsh Valleys as benefit
payments are ended by the Corbinista regime after the IMF refuses to bail out bankrupt England / Wales.
Nigel Farage continues to draw his MEP salary and moves to Belgium because beer and baccy are cheaper there.
The resurgent IRA creates chaos on the new " hard " border between Ulster and the Republic and ethnic cleansing begins in Protestant and Catholic areas with thousands of refugees on the move.
A NATO peace keeping force is sent to try to help the civilians involved.
Over 48% of our worldwide export trade is with the 27 member states of the EU. Germany is by far the biggest member state in terms of trade and they had 7.5% of their exports with us. You need to look at the member states that have a trade surplus with us who have more fragile economies as possible allies. On that basis you would target Spain and maybe Poland, Czech Republic and Belgium to influence. About 20 member states including France have a brought parity of imports and exports give or take 10%.
Our biggest trade surplus with the rest of the world is with the USA where we import about £60 billion and export £100 billion. It will be interesting to see the favourable trade deal we negotiate with the Make America Great Again Trump Administration that greatly improves on tht position.
Leaving the EU is fecking stupid , I still can't believe that idiot Cameron offered a straight in out vote and the country was fecking stupid enough to vote for it
We are going to be fecked for generations to come
We did have controlled immigration. We weren't in Schengen for a start.
Our government wanted ttip and therefore will presumably press on with a similar kind of deal with the USA as soon as possible.
WTO not covering services is another reason why no deal is better for the EU than for us. Theresa seems to trying to bluff with a busted flush draw that the rest of the table can already see.
Does No Deal mean we don't have to pay the EU anything? I'm not sure that's right. Where did you read that?
Edit, ok I've found there's a House Of Lords report that suggests that but legal action would be likely.
Shame for the Leave voters who were sold the idea of low immigration and some bollocks on the side of a red bus as opposed to an enormous cluster **** of trying to establish new trade deals, no single market and onngoing endless negotiations going nowhere.
Frankly I am utterly amazed.
It's bad enough that the average voter literally had no idea what the impact of their vote would be.
It is becoming more and more apparent that neither did the government.
How on earth can any organisation make such an important decision without a full understanding what the outputs would be? Clearly Plan A was "business as usual" but they lost, and there wasn't, and there still isn't, a Plan B.
If your local corner shop demonstrated such a lack of planning and general awareness they'd be out of business.
It certainly is impossible now. This is why I think people are wrong to ask could Britain be better out if the EU (answer, yes it's possible) but will Britain be better off out. Then you need to look at our politicians and what they are realistically going to achieve. The Government and opposition are not strong enough to take us out and rebuild in my opinion. Their track record seems pretty clear on that.
Without doubt this is not easy for anyone politician or business man or the ordinary punter to agree something with 27 states , even the clever people who voted for this can't come up with an answer ,other than point fingers at the government .
I do wonder how those finger pointers would be reacting to other parties being in charge ,is this just a fashionable Tory rant , to turn this on any government is bit rich ,having dumped them in it without real thought of the outcome .
They have the upper hand, as they know we have been caught cold by this decision, the only subjects we have the upper hand on is the Financial square mile of the City of London , Security ,Arms .
Anyone of of us could negotiate a deal, if we rolled over and agreed to their terms on :
trade tariffs
divorce bill
continued support of the crazy £36 bn EU pension
freedom of movement and the rights of their citizens in the UK.
European Court of Justice membership.
Me I would live or die and play hardball , we could create a type of Singapore-on-Thames , slash corporation tax to attract business to our shores , tell the Germans we will heavily tariff their imported cars , and french wines , seek bilateral deals with those like Poland who may want to deal and Spain relies heavily on us ,conduct trade deals with others like India ,support Catalonia and the Dutch movements .
Yep lets divide and conquer and see if others follow .
I voted to say , but hey bugger them , they have no interest in us or our people or they would agree or move forward ,their worry if we get a deal others will follow, thats what this is about , brought upon by us and the very people who are moaning for their own political allegiance or gain , who are now the moaners , classy.