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The fact that we have less council houses due to right to buy means this lady wether she was a previous tenant or an owner occupier needs a council house to live in
The council doesn't have these houses like they used to .....they have been sold and not replaced as the Tories promised .....and so the woman suffering domestic violence .......or another person in housing need ......is placed in temporary sub standard accommodation until a house comes up .......usually in about five years
I am finished now , it's like banging ones head against a brick wall
[QUOTE=SLUDGE FACTORY;4815838]You self righteous throbbing **** . You start a thread like this and expect a reasoned debate . It is pointless trying to reason with you , you have one agenda which is left of left . Go and sing the red flag at Momentum Kenfig Hill meetings and dream of the day Mc Donell presents his first budget and clap and cheer that Britain will be in a better place 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
The thing which bothers me most about this thread is that so many people are totally one dimensional and cannot think beyond supporting one Political Party. How anyone can reconcile throwing money at everything and taxing business is good for the economy and the country's finances has a screw loose. Once I supported the Labour Party but cannot see how some of the barmy ideas of McDonnel and Co will be good for the nation's finances. Some of John Mc Donnel's utternaces are being shown on the BBC now and clearly he does not know the size of the nation's debt or the cost of servicing it. His deputy being interviewed by Andrew Neil now is equally clueless.
[QUOTE=Rocco Siffredi;4816007]You are obsessed with bottoms and calling people gay boys
I think that tells me everything I need to know about you
What a charming individual you are
I think you need therapy to sort out these issues
Good luck , I won't be chatting with you again
Well that's your opinion , you clearly don't vote Labour so are naturally going to take the view that the current lot are barmy
My view is we need socialism more than ever as free market capitalism since Thatcher has got us to where we are today .......Blair was Maggie in a suit , that wasn't socialism
Thatcher gave massive incentives to council tenants to buy their own properties but ring fenced the money from those sales and prevented councils from using that money to build new houses ........apart from the council's who had plenty of money ......the predominantly tory led ones in the shires .......hence the stock of social housing was directly reduced by the right to buy .......heseltine tried to argue with Thatcher that money from the sales needed to be freed up to build replacement stock but she refused and moved him in a cabinet reshuffle
That's a fact , you may not like it but it's a fact
This really is my last reply to you feedback or whatever your username has changed to now , the evidence of the effect of right to buy on the social housing stock of this country is out there , I have even given you the title of a book written by an expert on social housing policy , there are numerous articles online that back this up , from people working in the social housing sector, if that's not good enough for you then I am wasting my time , in fact I have just wasted two minutes of my life typing this
you appear to confuse total housing stock with social housing stock, the latter being a subset of the former. I have never made any comment about RTB not impacting social housing stock. For want of repeating myself, i have said RTB does not impact total housing stock (how can it possibly impact housing stock when only the legal owners have changed?).
RTB has reduced social housing stock, but it has also reduced the numbers of people needed social housing by the same amount. Therefore whatever demand existed for new social housing before RTB existed after RTB, when all other factors are considered and taken into account.
Housing associations were very much favoured by Thatcher as they were seen as less politically labour than the big councils .....further proof that Thatcher's pushing of the right to buy was politically motivated
But housing associations were far too small in number to provide enough social housing to replace that lost to council house sales .........and the Tories are now allowing housing association tenants to buy their homes , further eroding the social housing stock ...... they really are unbelievable ......of course they told the voters that for every housing association property sold they would build a new one , but surprise surprise that hasn't happened
So you are happy with the fact the Tories came in with the promise of wiping out the deficit in a parliament yet have time and time again put that date back ?
And are borrowing like crazy ?
And the poor and vulnerable are being shafted by continuing austerity
Well I have listened to that side of the arguement and it's not enticing me I am afraid
Do you mean the deficit built up by the former Labour government?
While the overall total of borrowing has increased which is inevitable where there is a deficit. The deficit has been reduced substantially.
How much do you think a Labour government would have to borrow to fund the cancellation of PFI projects, cancellation of student debt, free tuition fees, rail privatisation, increased public sector pay etc etc. Probably around an additional £700bn. And you blame the Tories for excessive borrowing. Are you having a laugh?
You might have a point about the poor and vulnerable but surely increased benefits means even more borrowing which you seem to be concerned about.
I am not expecting you to vote Tory but merely suggest you keep a more open mind.
All of them which are soundbite politics triyong to falsely appeal to left leaning nieave voters who don't remeber the day week,what i want as a socialist its so much on increasing debt to stupid levels to rationalise industries, but to think of a new way of funding things like the NHS ie a penny on everyone's tax , charge for uncessary GP visits , apply a dentistry type of treatment charges .
Let Universities manage school budgets instead of councils .
Merge councils to save tax payers uncessary duplication of services.
Let the wealthy pay for thier health including prescriptions in Wales.
Bring in more road an congestion tolls to clean up the cities and fund public transport .
Say no to union demands such as the crazy current rail pay award in the south west.
Say no to immigration unless they arrive for a job we can't fill.
Call for a second referendum on Brexit ,that would probaly get them elected .
Just a few ideas ,much better than copying the old chaos politics of the 70''s
I am no fan of the previous labour government , socialist they were not
The Tories are borrowing because their deficit reduction plans have been a disaster , they still haven't got rid of it and I have no doubt it's going to start going back up again
You may not like to hear this but the Tories in opposition backed labours spending plans and the bailing out of the banks to a penny
I voted labour with a heavy heart with Blair , brown and milliband in charge , corbyn however is wakening up socialism in this country and its about time as far as I am concerned
I note you haven't answered my response on borrowing but if you think Labour's socialist agenda will reduce the deficit then the best of luck with that. The sad thing is that Andrew Neil exposed Labour's fragility on borrowing this lunchtime where neither McDonnel or his deputy couldn't even grasp what borrowing means. Your mind is so closed to socialism that I shan't bother to respond anymore to this exchange of views. Life is just too short.
I have , it's just you don't like the answer
May is losing her grip , the Tory party is falling apart and the majority of the country have had enough of the Tories
She called an election and it backfired , she is propped up by a bunch of religious zealots and labour will be ready
You take care now