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I think anyone who is arguing for the status quo in any membership referendum is on dodgy ground because they have nothing shiny and new to offer, but I agree that remain needed to be more positive, because some of their claims were ridiculous when it came to what a leave vote would mean.
I like to think of myself as reasonably intelligent, but, more than in any election I've voted in, I felt I didn't know enough about the subject of this hugely important vote and wanted to be "educated" by both sides - fat chance!
I agree with that completely. I had no idea what I was really voting for or against and so I needed the people that were advocating change to convince me that change was necessary. Instead, they indulged in their own project fear.
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That's all well and good, but in the 2 years, 1 month and 1 week since that referendum took place we have the very people who were telling us a deal with the EU was easy, that they needed us more than we needed them - the people who told us that are now trying to sell a No Deal Brexit as no bad thing. The two key positions of Government are held by a passive remainer, and an agressive remainer. We have had a General Election that, instead of clearing Parliament, hamstrung it completely. After her Lancaster House Speech, I was actually relieved to see May had a roadmap to a future post EU membership. What the feck has happened since then? Because, it is obvious to me, there are no plans. There never were any plans, and Government and Opposition are filled with self-servers seeking career opportunities, and not many working for the public interest.
The referendum saw the people narrowly advising the Government that leaving was best for the country. The Government has failed to meet those demands so far, are now on holiday for a month, followed by a week or two in Parliament, followed by another few weeks off for Conferences. It is painful to watch because, at the end of all this, none of us are getting what we voted for (48% have already lost, how many of the 52% are still winners at this moment)?
The thing is, a no deal brexit will kill manufacturing, it will kill road haulage companies, and it will kill agriculture. Probably the three sectors of the Country's industry that voted most strongly to leave! If anything, what is happening now is far more undemocratic than holding a second referendum for the people to advise on the next best path to take - no deal, or no brexit. There's no middle ground anymore.
The people who "won" that referendum (I think Boris didn't really want to win it) are nowhere to be seen. The people who called for the referendum are nowhere to be seen. The people who called the referendum are nowhere to be seen (by people, I mean MPs). They're all hiding away and resigning a few days after leaving a cabinet meeting where everyone was said to agree. What the feck were Davis and Johnson doing in Chequers? Where was their British Bulldog spirit? It took Davis a weekend to resign, and Boris a little bit longer.
That was awkward to watch. I still haven't seen anything close to a convincing reason in favour of this mess.
Rees-Mogg was batted into a corner by Krishnan Guru-Murthy (I think it was him) and said that the economic benefits for Brexit may not be apparent for 50 years.
50 years! We haven't even given the EU that long. Almost everyone who voted in 2016 will be dead or retired. No one makes economic predictions for 50 years in the future. It's infuriating, and I only hope the impending immediate disaster continues to seep into the public conscious, as I feel has been happening over the past couple of weeks.
We can still withdraw Article 50. A few months ago I felt that wasn't wise as the undercurrent of why so many people voted to leave will still be there, and people like Farage would stoke it up. But now I'm starting to think that at least that cohort won't be around for decades. It increasingly feels like the country has been held to ransom by Aron Banks and his crew.
What will the EU do with all of their excess products that they sell to us, do you think the companies that make them will stand by and be told they will have to forget about this business? These companies are heavily invested in their workforces, plant and equipment, and they have financial obligations that need to be met. I can't see it happening myself, just like the EU capitulated to Trump, as there is no benefit for the EU in pursuing negative trade deals.
I think it’s fair to say it was a good deal for both the USA and the EU so not sure why you’re trying to yet again spin it as some one sided victory. It reads like a Daily Express headline and I think we can finally put that nonsense neutral position you espouse to bed.
Whether or not the UK will be as successful when we know our economy isn’t as big as America’s is yet to be seen. I hope a deal ncan be done to make the best of this utterly farcical situation created by that poisonous prick (copyright David Mitchell) Cameron got us into .